My insights on drinking a acv drink
chereenbruce850503
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I have been trying to lose weight for the past 5 weeks. Week 1 I cut out all sodas and sugar other than protein shakes and things that cannot be avoided. No sodas, tea,candy ect... walking everyday about 15,000 steps. The second week, still walking the same i started a drink from walmart called acv detox drink. It says that there are 2 servings each 8 oz. I do not drink it that way however. It is a mix of lemon, water, Apple cider vinegar, and cinnamon. I take 1 shot after lunch at about 2 and 1at about 8 after dinner. I lost 2# that week. Week 3 I didn't drink the acv detox and only lost 1#. Week 4 I started drinking it again as a shot and lost 2.5 #. I am currently on week 5 now. Weigh in is Friday. And drinking the acv detox this week. So far in total I have lost 11.2#. It may not work for everyone but it does for me. Don't knock it till you have tried it. ☺
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Vinegar is really hard on your enamel.
Read what's below17 -
Detoxes are woo and there's no scientific evidence that ACV does anything beneficial for weight loss:
http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/apple-cider-vinegar-evidence/
https://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-detox-delusion/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how-to-spot-it-and-how-to-avoid-it/24 -
Those things are just gimmicks - really just a waste of money IMO. If you weren't doing tens of thousands of steps and decreasing your calories (which is the real reason for your weight loss), the acv drink wouldn't be working. Sometimes we see what we want to see. But it doesn't sound like there are any harmful ingredients in it. So if it motivates you and makes you feel emotionally like you're getting a boost, there's no harm in it besides losing the money you spend on it. So drink up! Personally, I'd rather save my money for new running shoes.
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its too bad you dont want to take the credit for the work you are doing by actually creating a deficit and losing weight, instead you want to assign it to some magic and potions.
To each their own i guess.54 -
Correlation is not causation. But it's your money to waste I suppose...13
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Given a relatively consistent deficit, weight loss varies week to week as a function of water retained in the body, sodium, stress, various hormones, and amount of food product currently somewhere in the digestive process.13
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Given a relatively consistent deficit, weight loss varies week to week as a function of water retained in the body, sodium, stress, various hormones, and amount of food product currently somewhere in the digestive process.
...and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not you consumed an "ACV detox" that week.9 -
Congrats on the weight loss! But it's your hard work, not acv that's the reason! How many pounds lost per week has nothing to do with drinking acv (or any other miracle products). Two weeks ago i lost 2 pounds, last week I lost one. This week I'm on track to not lose any. Diet is exactly the same every week, set to lose 1 pound per week. Point being, weight loss isn't exact, and will fluctuate, with or without the drink.
But, keep up on your path to a healthy weight and own your progress!!11 -
I've tried it.
For reasons having nothing to do with weight loss, I drank ACV for weeks at a time during weight loss; and for other weeks at a time during weight loss, I didn't drink ACV. There was zero, zip, nada difference in weight loss rate when drinking it vs. not drinking it . . . and as a notorious data geek, I'm a meticulous logger.
BTW: I'm unpersuaded that it's universally bad for tooth enamel. I think it matters how you drink it. Personally, I prefer a shot with a water chaser. I suspect you get more worrisome acid/enamel exposure from BBQ sauce on pulled pork, or vinaigrette on salad (which is not to say that I think you should avoid those foods: That would be silly).11 -
Lemon is a mild diuretic, which could help flush water weight. Apart from that, there's no scientific connection here.6
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I've tried it. For reasons having nothing to do with weight loss, I drank ACV for weeks at a time during weight loss; and for other weeks at a time during weight loss, I didn't drink ACV. There was zero, zip, nada difference in weight loss rate when drinking it vs. not drinking it . . . and as a notorious data geek, I'm a meticulous logger.
OK gramma
@AnnPT77 
You're usually a level headed person, seldom taken by woo, or super woo!
So why were you desperately trying to pickle yourself
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Possibly for an auto-immune disease? I've had it recommended to me for rheumatoid arthritis. Apparently the acid can help with inflammation - haven't tried it, but it's possibly what PP was using it for. Also, it's v nice in a salad, mixed with some olive oil and a bit of garlic. Does nothing for weight loss, but is quite yummy.10
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Elphaba1313 wrote: »Possibly for an auto-immune disease? I've had it recommended to me for rheumatoid arthritis. Apparently the acid can help with inflammation - haven't tried it, but it's possibly what OP was using it for. Also, it's v nice in a salad, mixed with some olive oil and a bit of garlic. Does nothing for weight loss, but is quite yummy.
Since the OP said it was a "detox" drink they most likely are trying to drink it for weight loss, even when it isn't helping to lose weight or detox.4 -
Sorry, should have said PP (AnnPT77) instead of OP. Definitely not what the OP was using her "detox" drink for - which was too embrace the woo.6
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I've tried it. For reasons having nothing to do with weight loss, I drank ACV for weeks at a time during weight loss; and for other weeks at a time during weight loss, I didn't drink ACV. There was zero, zip, nada difference in weight loss rate when drinking it vs. not drinking it . . . and as a notorious data geek, I'm a meticulous logger.
OK gramma@AnnPT77
You're usually a level headed person, seldom taken by woo, or super woo!
So why were you desperately trying to pickle yourself
OK, but it's gonna be my usual essay-length ramble.
First, let me say this: I believe in doing n=1 experiments, if I'm pretty sure they won't hurt me. I'm also very, very skeptical about the results of n=1 experiments, because I understand that the human brain sees causation in every correlation, and that the placebo effect is stronger and operates differently than a lot of people think.
So, the ACV drinking specifically.
I would be much less likely to do it if I didn't actively enjoy vinegar. (I have at least a half dozen types of vinegar in the pantry at all times for cooking & eating - not different flavor-infused ones, but actual types: ACV, rice wine vinegar, sherry vinegar, regular and white balsamic vinegar, red and white wine vinegar, malt vinegar, beer vinegar, etc. One of my favorite alcoholic mixed drinks is made with "drinking vinegar" a.k.a. "shrub".) If I hated vinegar, and had to gag it down, as we see many here report, I for sure wouldn't drink it. Life is too short for yucky.
I had two reasons for the experiment.
First, I read someplace that drinking vinegar (any type) could be helpful to aging people who sometimes begin to have sub-optimal stomach acid production. While I don't know if I have that, I have had bouts of (medically diagnosed) IBS-C, to the point of having taken Rx meds for it in the distant past. So, I was curious whether regularly drinking vinegar would change anything. Results: Inconclusive.
Second, I have the vague notion, based on early returns from still very young, preliminary and so far non-definitive scientific research on the subject, that a diverse and happy gut microbiome (friendly bugs only, of course) is going to turn out to be a really good thing for people. I prefer to get dietary stuff when possible from foods humans have eaten for centuries or millennia, rather than from extracted/compounded supplements. Therefore, I make it a point to regularly eat a diverse range of traditional probiotic and prebiotic foods. Common probiotic foods include raw sauerkraut, yogurt, raw fermented pickles, miso, kefir, raw kim chi, and . . . raw vinegar (with the mother ). ACV is the most widely available raw vinegar.
Results: Completely un-evaluatable, but I never expected to be able to evaluate them.
I started experimenting with ACV before starting weight loss. Part way through weight loss, my gallbladder gave me severe heartburn. It was gallbladder adenomyomatosis, not stones or sludge, and not caused by weight loss (arguably, it was caused by obesity). The ACV seemed to make the heartburn worse, so I stopped drinking it until after the gallbladder came out. These circumstances created the "drinking ACV for weeks/not drinking ACV for weeks" situation.
None of it had anything to do with weight loss, and it had no observable effect on weight loss, appetite, satiation or anything related.
Is it woo? Possibly. Will it hurt me? Probably not (the tooth enamel thing is silly if you don't bathe your teeth in it, and we eat many other acidic foods anyway). Have I ever urged it on anyone else? Absolutely not, except for recipes and the alcoholic mixed drink thing, because that's delicious.
FWIW, I'm currently not drinking ACV, but I may decide to again sometime, for the second reason above.
That's it. 17 -
Congratulations on your progress! You should be very proud - Especially because it is YOU who has achieved this, not the drink.9
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I've tried it. For reasons having nothing to do with weight loss, I drank ACV for weeks at a time during weight loss; and for other weeks at a time during weight loss, I didn't drink ACV. There was zero, zip, nada difference in weight loss rate when drinking it vs. not drinking it . . . and as a notorious data geek, I'm a meticulous logger.
OK gramma@AnnPT77
You're usually a level headed person, seldom taken by woo, or super woo!
So why were you desperately trying to pickle yourself
OK, but it's gonna be my usual essay-length ramble.
First, let me say this: I believe in doing n=1 experiments, if I'm pretty sure they won't hurt me. I'm also very, very skeptical about the results of n=1 experiments, because I understand that the human brain sees causation in every correlation, and that the placebo effect is stronger and operates differently than a lot of people think.
So, the ACV drinking specifically.
I would be much less likely to do it if I didn't actively enjoy vinegar. (I have at least a half dozen types of vinegar in the pantry at all times for cooking & eating - not different flavor-infused ones, but actual types: ACV, rice wine vinegar, sherry vinegar, regular and white balsamic vinegar, red and white wine vinegar, malt vinegar, beer vinegar, etc. One of my favorite alcoholic mixed drinks is made with "drinking vinegar" a.k.a. "shrub".) If I hated vinegar, and had to gag it down, as we see many here report, I for sure wouldn't drink it. Life is too short for yucky.
I had two reasons for the experiment.
First, I read someplace that drinking vinegar (any type) could be helpful to aging people who sometimes begin to have sub-optimal stomach acid production. While I don't know if I have that, I have had bouts of (medically diagnosed) IBS-C, to the point of having taken Rx meds for it in the distant past. So, I was curious whether regularly drinking vinegar would change anything. Results: Inconclusive.
Second, I have the vague notion, based on early returns from still very young, preliminary and so far non-definitive scientific research on the subject, that a diverse and happy gut microbiome (friendly bugs only, of course) is going to turn out to be a really good thing for people. I prefer to get dietary stuff when possible from foods humans have eaten for centuries or millennia, rather than from extracted/compounded supplements. Therefore, I make it a point to regularly eat a diverse range of traditional probiotic and prebiotic foods. Common probiotic foods include raw sauerkraut, yogurt, raw fermented pickles, miso, kefir, raw kim chi, and . . . raw vinegar (with the mother ). ACV is the most widely available raw vinegar.
Results: Completely un-evaluatable, but I never expected to be able to evaluate them.
I started experimenting with ACV before starting weight loss. Part way through weight loss, my gallbladder gave me severe heartburn. It was gallbladder adenomyomatosis, not stones or sludge, and not caused by weight loss (arguably, it was caused by obesity). The ACV seemed to make the heartburn worse, so I stopped drinking it until after the gallbladder came out. These circumstances created the "drinking ACV for weeks/not drinking ACV for weeks" situation.
None of it had anything to do with weight loss, and it had no observable effect on weight loss, appetite, satiation or anything related.
Is it woo? Possibly. Will it hurt me? Probably not (the tooth enamel thing is silly if you don't bathe your teeth in it, and we eat many other acidic foods anyway). Have I ever urged it on anyone else? Absolutely not, except for recipes and the alcoholic mixed drink thing, because that's delicious.
FWIW, I'm currently not drinking ACV, but I may decide to again sometime, for the second reason above.
That's it.
I like malt and balsamic myself. And use it... on fish and chips and salads respectively, though I've also used balsamic (glaze) on... ICE CREAM!!!
Having said that... alcoholic drink?!?!?!?!?
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I've tried it. For reasons having nothing to do with weight loss, I drank ACV for weeks at a time during weight loss; and for other weeks at a time during weight loss, I didn't drink ACV. There was zero, zip, nada difference in weight loss rate when drinking it vs. not drinking it . . . and as a notorious data geek, I'm a meticulous logger.
OK gramma@AnnPT77
You're usually a level headed person, seldom taken by woo, or super woo!
So why were you desperately trying to pickle yourself
OK, but it's gonna be my usual essay-length ramble.
First, let me say this: I believe in doing n=1 experiments, if I'm pretty sure they won't hurt me. I'm also very, very skeptical about the results of n=1 experiments, because I understand that the human brain sees causation in every correlation, and that the placebo effect is stronger and operates differently than a lot of people think.
So, the ACV drinking specifically.
I would be much less likely to do it if I didn't actively enjoy vinegar. (I have at least a half dozen types of vinegar in the pantry at all times for cooking & eating - not different flavor-infused ones, but actual types: ACV, rice wine vinegar, sherry vinegar, regular and white balsamic vinegar, red and white wine vinegar, malt vinegar, beer vinegar, etc. One of my favorite alcoholic mixed drinks is made with "drinking vinegar" a.k.a. "shrub".) If I hated vinegar, and had to gag it down, as we see many here report, I for sure wouldn't drink it. Life is too short for yucky.
I had two reasons for the experiment.
First, I read someplace that drinking vinegar (any type) could be helpful to aging people who sometimes begin to have sub-optimal stomach acid production. While I don't know if I have that, I have had bouts of (medically diagnosed) IBS-C, to the point of having taken Rx meds for it in the distant past. So, I was curious whether regularly drinking vinegar would change anything. Results: Inconclusive.
Second, I have the vague notion, based on early returns from still very young, preliminary and so far non-definitive scientific research on the subject, that a diverse and happy gut microbiome (friendly bugs only, of course) is going to turn out to be a really good thing for people. I prefer to get dietary stuff when possible from foods humans have eaten for centuries or millennia, rather than from extracted/compounded supplements. Therefore, I make it a point to regularly eat a diverse range of traditional probiotic and prebiotic foods. Common probiotic foods include raw sauerkraut, yogurt, raw fermented pickles, miso, kefir, raw kim chi, and . . . raw vinegar (with the mother ). ACV is the most widely available raw vinegar.
Results: Completely un-evaluatable, but I never expected to be able to evaluate them.
I started experimenting with ACV before starting weight loss. Part way through weight loss, my gallbladder gave me severe heartburn. It was gallbladder adenomyomatosis, not stones or sludge, and not caused by weight loss (arguably, it was caused by obesity). The ACV seemed to make the heartburn worse, so I stopped drinking it until after the gallbladder came out. These circumstances created the "drinking ACV for weeks/not drinking ACV for weeks" situation.
None of it had anything to do with weight loss, and it had no observable effect on weight loss, appetite, satiation or anything related.
Is it woo? Possibly. Will it hurt me? Probably not (the tooth enamel thing is silly if you don't bathe your teeth in it, and we eat many other acidic foods anyway). Have I ever urged it on anyone else? Absolutely not, except for recipes and the alcoholic mixed drink thing, because that's delicious.
FWIW, I'm currently not drinking ACV, but I may decide to again sometime, for the second reason above.
That's it.
I like malt and balsamic myself. And use it... on fish and chips and salads respectively, though I've also used balsamic (glaze) on... ICE CREAM!!!
Having said that... alcoholic drink?!?!?!?!?
Sometime also posted the other day about putting a dash of balsamic in sparkling water. I'm going to try it! Balsamic is also apparently great with strawberries. Personally, i think strawberries are the devil's poo, but others think it's great1 -
Well I was going to throw this in earlier, but now we are mixing drinks, well.....
my mum drinks ACV in the winter mixed with honey, hot water and whisky.
She thinks it is good for her; I'm not going to argue, she just turned 91 and is still fully independent.
Keep drinking it @AnnPT77.
(I was going to be mortified if malt vinegar wasn't in your stash
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Cheers, h.8 -
Malt vinegar?
How have I not heard of that before now?
EDIT: neither the regular grocery store I go to, nor the speciality vinegar and oil shop I'm a regular at stock it... there's why
But I just saw that they have a craft beer vinegar... me thinks it'll be making its way home with me next time I happen to shop there
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middlehaitch wrote: »Well I was going to throw this in earlier, but now we are mixing drinks, well.....
my mum drinks ACV in the winter mixed with honey, hot water and whisky.
She thinks it is good for her; I'm not going to argue, she just turned 91 and is still fully independent.
Keep drinking it @AnnPT77.
(I was going to be mortified if malt vinegar wasn't in your stash )
Cheers, h.
I drink that without the whiskey when i have a cold!1 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Malt vinegar?
How have I not heard of that before now?
EDIT: neither the regular grocery store I go to, nor the speciality vinegar and oil shop I'm a regular at stock it... there's why
But I just saw that they have a craft beer vinegar... me thinks it'll be making its way home with me next time I happen to shop there g
Malt vinegar is just the standard one here in the UK, but if you get the cheaper one it's marketed as 'non-brewed condiment' (yum!)
I eat a lot of vinegar and different types, I've found it's beneficial for weight loss as it replaces oil-based salad dressings and sauces and saves me calories. There's nothing magic about the vinegar.
It's the same as me now using hot sauce rather than more sugary sauces on meals, it saves me calories.
I'm wanting to develop a diet where someone has to take a hot sauce chaser every morning.....7 -
ladyreva78 wrote: »Malt vinegar?
How have I not heard of that before now?
EDIT: neither the regular grocery store I go to, nor the speciality vinegar and oil shop I'm a regular at stock it... there's why
But I just saw that they have a craft beer vinegar... me thinks it'll be making its way home with me next time I happen to shop there g
Malt vinegar is just the standard one here in the UK, but if you get the cheaper one it's marketed as 'non-brewed condiment' (yum!)
I eat a lot of vinegar and different types, I've found it's beneficial for weight loss as it replaces oil-based salad dressings and sauces and saves me calories. There's nothing magic about the vinegar.
It's the same as me now using hot sauce rather than more sugary sauces on meals, it saves me calories.
I'm wanting to develop a diet where someone has to take a hot sauce chaser every morning.....
I live in Switzerland. Meaning I'd have to find a specialty shop that imports UK products...
My salad dressing = Balsamico + a drop or two of olive oil = yumminess personified!1 -
chereenbruce850503 wrote: »I have been trying to lose weight for the past 5 weeks. Week 1 I cut out all sodas and sugar other than protein shakes and things that cannot be avoided. No sodas, tea,candy ect... walking everyday about 15,000 steps. The second week, still walking the same i started a drink from walmart called acv detox drink. It says that there are 2 servings each 8 oz. I do not drink it that way however. It is a mix of lemon, water, Apple cider vinegar, and cinnamon. I take 1 shot after lunch at about 2 and 1at about 8 after dinner. I lost 2# that week. Week 3 I didn't drink the acv detox and only lost 1#. Week 4 I started drinking it again as a shot and lost 2.5 #. I am currently on week 5 now. Weigh in is Friday. And drinking the acv detox this week. So far in total I have lost 11.2#. It may not work for everyone but it does for me. Don't knock it till you have tried it. ☺
I've lost 14lb in 5 week without drinking ACV10 -
chereenbruce850503 wrote: »I have been trying to lose weight for the past 5 weeks. Week 1 I cut out all sodas and sugar other than protein shakes and things that cannot be avoided. No sodas, tea,candy ect... walking everyday about 15,000 steps. The second week, still walking the same i started a drink from walmart called acv detox drink. It says that there are 2 servings each 8 oz. I do not drink it that way however. It is a mix of lemon, water, Apple cider vinegar, and cinnamon. I take 1 shot after lunch at about 2 and 1at about 8 after dinner. I lost 2# that week. Week 3 I didn't drink the acv detox and only lost 1#. Week 4 I started drinking it again as a shot and lost 2.5 #. I am currently on week 5 now. Weigh in is Friday. And drinking the acv detox this week. So far in total I have lost 11.2#. It may not work for everyone but it does for me. Don't knock it till you have tried it. ☺
So you reduced your calorie intake (Calories In), increased your exercise (Calories Out) and you think that drinking some vinegar is what caused your weight loss?
CLUE: It's not the vinegar
Weight loss isn't linear, it's unlikely you will see consistent weight loss week-to-week. Your post does nothing to confirm that it works and many studies already say it doesn't.6 -
I've tried it. For reasons having nothing to do with weight loss, I drank ACV for weeks at a time during weight loss; and for other weeks at a time during weight loss, I didn't drink ACV. There was zero, zip, nada difference in weight loss rate when drinking it vs. not drinking it . . . and as a notorious data geek, I'm a meticulous logger.
OK gramma@AnnPT77
You're usually a level headed person, seldom taken by woo, or super woo!
So why were you desperately trying to pickle yourself
OK, but it's gonna be my usual essay-length ramble.
First, let me say this: I believe in doing n=1 experiments, if I'm pretty sure they won't hurt me. I'm also very, very skeptical about the results of n=1 experiments, because I understand that the human brain sees causation in every correlation, and that the placebo effect is stronger and operates differently than a lot of people think.
So, the ACV drinking specifically.
I would be much less likely to do it if I didn't actively enjoy vinegar. (I have at least a half dozen types of vinegar in the pantry at all times for cooking & eating - not different flavor-infused ones, but actual types: ACV, rice wine vinegar, sherry vinegar, regular and white balsamic vinegar, red and white wine vinegar, malt vinegar, beer vinegar, etc. One of my favorite alcoholic mixed drinks is made with "drinking vinegar" a.k.a. "shrub".) If I hated vinegar, and had to gag it down, as we see many here report, I for sure wouldn't drink it. Life is too short for yucky.
I had two reasons for the experiment.
First, I read someplace that drinking vinegar (any type) could be helpful to aging people who sometimes begin to have sub-optimal stomach acid production. While I don't know if I have that, I have had bouts of (medically diagnosed) IBS-C, to the point of having taken Rx meds for it in the distant past. So, I was curious whether regularly drinking vinegar would change anything. Results: Inconclusive.
Second, I have the vague notion, based on early returns from still very young, preliminary and so far non-definitive scientific research on the subject, that a diverse and happy gut microbiome (friendly bugs only, of course) is going to turn out to be a really good thing for people. I prefer to get dietary stuff when possible from foods humans have eaten for centuries or millennia, rather than from extracted/compounded supplements. Therefore, I make it a point to regularly eat a diverse range of traditional probiotic and prebiotic foods. Common probiotic foods include raw sauerkraut, yogurt, raw fermented pickles, miso, kefir, raw kim chi, and . . . raw vinegar (with the mother ). ACV is the most widely available raw vinegar.
Results: Completely un-evaluatable, but I never expected to be able to evaluate them.
I started experimenting with ACV before starting weight loss. Part way through weight loss, my gallbladder gave me severe heartburn. It was gallbladder adenomyomatosis, not stones or sludge, and not caused by weight loss (arguably, it was caused by obesity). The ACV seemed to make the heartburn worse, so I stopped drinking it until after the gallbladder came out. These circumstances created the "drinking ACV for weeks/not drinking ACV for weeks" situation.
None of it had anything to do with weight loss, and it had no observable effect on weight loss, appetite, satiation or anything related.
Is it woo? Possibly. Will it hurt me? Probably not (the tooth enamel thing is silly if you don't bathe your teeth in it, and we eat many other acidic foods anyway). Have I ever urged it on anyone else? Absolutely not, except for recipes and the alcoholic mixed drink thing, because that's delicious.
FWIW, I'm currently not drinking ACV, but I may decide to again sometime, for the second reason above.
That's it.
I like malt and balsamic myself. And use it... on fish and chips and salads respectively, though I've also used balsamic (glaze) on... ICE CREAM!!!
Having said that... alcoholic drink?!?!?!?!?
Balsamic on strawberries is good.1 -
Start here:
https://www.mcclarybros.com/
https://www.mcclarybros.com/blogs/recipes -- craft cocktail recipes using vinegar
And I would 100% try them if I still drank alcohol.2 -
You don't think your weight loss was related to calorie reduction and increased activity?3
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Everyone's so quick to flash their skeptic badges every time someone mentions something other than CICO. ACV actually has some peer-reviewed, published research that suggests it might be beneficial, if not for weight loss per se, but at least for preventing weight gain in the context of overeating, decreasing blood sugar spikes after meals, and for improving metabolic profiles (esp. lipids):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27595296
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27209492
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24894721
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16015276
Don't play Captain Science without checking out the science.
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