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Dees_Apples wrote: »I guess I prefer more of a casual/dressed up, as opposed to a full-on suit
(Not me)
That’s a really nice sport coat -what kind is it ? Who is the maker?1 -
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ALSO a very good thread3
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Dees_Apples wrote: »
Did not buy the classic black coat, ended up going for a more casual look with a blue hopsack coat
Hopsack is good, real good. I have two hopsack jackets - one is very easy to dress down, which is preferred manner. The other is an oddly fancy fabric mix, which makes it something I love, but very niche for wear.1 -
Dees_Apples wrote: »I guess I prefer more of a casual/dressed up, as opposed to a full-on suit
(Not me)
Top model is wearing a jacket too short for him - pretty normal in product shots, but ludicrous looking in real life. Fabric is great though, and it's styled well.
Length of the bottom one is right on.
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Dees_Apples wrote: »theeldestberry wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »I guess I prefer more of a casual/dressed up, as opposed to a full-on suit
(Not me)
Top model is wearing a jacket too short for him - pretty normal in product shots, but ludicrous looking in real life. Fabric is great though, and it's styled well.
Length of the bottom one is right on.
How were you able to tell? I've heard the coat should come down enough to cover the butt, but no longer than that. I have room to improve my style, room to learn, though. How would you rate the coat I picked up, as far as fit? It's straight off the rack. I vaguely recall seeing hopsack in my early 20s, but I'm somewhat freshly discovering it and it really is a banger
It's always hard to tell from a single photo. Even the longer jacket needs the sleeves tailored, at least based on the one photo.
Covering the butt is one method that works for most men. There's others, like the knuckle curl test. Biggest thing is, dress to the middle, that way you always stay in style. Extremes are something to avoid (super wide lapels or super skinny, super long or very short jacket lengths).
I'll give a caveat or two as I offer any critique. First, take anything I say with a grain of salt, it's so easy to pick apart fit based on one 2D picture. Sometimes the photo is just a bad representation.
The black jacket you have on in the first photo looks like a great fit on you. However, black is fairly awful for most people, especially as a mix and match piece. I'd skip it, as you did, and go for the blue hopsack. That is a cornerstone casual piece.
The fit as photographed on the hopsack is off, and it's hard to quantify how. The photo suggests significant pulling at the button, which usually indicates too small a size at the waist. But there's also a bunch of creasing in the chest, which suggests it's too large of a size. Go down one size and see if the pulling and creasing cleans up because of excess fabric hang. If it gets even worse, go up a size (and then you'll need the non-fitting parts tailored).
Hopsack is great. Interesting texture, light weight, breathable. Way better than a standard navy jacket. You clearly have good instincts, trust that and augment with more good data sources. Nobody figures this stuff out on their own.
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As close as I usually get.
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stevewallen wrote: »
As close as I usually get.
Looking sharp!1 -
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Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I have tried typing a reponse now and can't find the words. A man in a suit is hot, but so is one in jeans and a crew neck long sleeved shirt or soft button up... and yet, a pair of clean sweatpants and tshirt is also great...
I think I may be partial to jeans and a soft button up shirt. (Not too starchy, good for cuddles, but yet a step above super casual).
I myself am casual by nature, so someone who dresses up "just because" would probably feel over dressed around me.
long story short... Yes. lol
eta.. I was going to add the caveat that "clean" is imperative, and yet... I've always had a thing for construction / blue collar worker too... So maybe "clean" as in "not wearing last week's dinner" haha2 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I have tried typing a reponse now and can't find the words. A man in a suit is hot, but so is one in jeans and a crew neck long sleeved shirt or soft button up... and yet, a pair of clean sweatpants and tshirt is also great...
I think I may be partial to jeans and a soft button up shirt. (Not too starchy, good for cuddles, but yet a step above super casual).
I myself am casual by nature, so someone who dresses up "just because" would probably feel over dressed around me.
long story short... Yes. lol
eta.. I was going to add the caveat that "clean" is imperative, and yet... I've always had a thing for construction / blue collar worker too... So maybe "clean" as in "not wearing last week's dinner" haha
I read this as "I like men" with only one real caveat, not neglecting grooming. :flowerforyou:2 -
Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
Casual! But when he knows how to dress up and is comfortable in a suit once in a while too.😍1 -
Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
Biggest thing that's successful for me is being a half step off from the crowd, without regard to the event.
If it's work and very casual (lots of jeans and hoodies), I might wear a polo or fitted tee instead of a hoodie, or maybe my hoodie is better fit and material.
If it's a suit event, mine will be tailored where most guys will be their one poorly fit suit. I might have a pocket square, but tieless even if everyone else is in a tie. It's the little details - I'm not trying to show anybody up by obviously outdressing (like wearing a tux to a suit event, or a sports coat to a hoodie workplace), I'm just trying to present a bit more polished version of the accepted dress.
Getting noticed by women isn't about a genre of clothing - sure, they have their individual preferences, some really dig jeans and leather jackets, or whatever. I believe it's about being subtly noticable as different in a good way. Clean is usually good. Ironed is usually good. Fitted well is good. And each of those has their exceptions, but nobody is good at it until they understand the basic premise and had a lot of mileage in doing the basics right.4 -
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theeldestberry wrote: »KickassAmazon76 wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I have tried typing a reponse now and can't find the words. A man in a suit is hot, but so is one in jeans and a crew neck long sleeved shirt or soft button up... and yet, a pair of clean sweatpants and tshirt is also great...
I think I may be partial to jeans and a soft button up shirt. (Not too starchy, good for cuddles, but yet a step above super casual).
I myself am casual by nature, so someone who dresses up "just because" would probably feel over dressed around me.
long story short... Yes. lol
eta.. I was going to add the caveat that "clean" is imperative, and yet... I've always had a thing for construction / blue collar worker too... So maybe "clean" as in "not wearing last week's dinner" haha
I read this as "I like men" with only one real caveat, not neglecting grooming. :flowerforyou:
Haha pretty much. 😁1 -
theeldestberry wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
Biggest thing that's successful for me is being a half step off from the crowd, without regard to the event.
If it's work and very casual (lots of jeans and hoodies), I might wear a polo or fitted tee instead of a hoodie, or maybe my hoodie is better fit and material.
If it's a suit event, mine will be tailored where most guys will be their one poorly fit suit. I might have a pocket square, but tieless even if everyone else is in a tie. It's the little details - I'm not trying to show anybody up by obviously outdressing (like wearing a tux to a suit event, or a sports coat to a hoodie workplace), I'm just trying to present a bit more polished version of the accepted dress.
Getting noticed by women isn't about a genre of clothing - sure, they have their individual preferences, some really dig jeans and leather jackets, or whatever. I believe it's about being subtly noticable as different in a good way. Clean is usually good. Ironed is usually good. Fitted well is good. And each of those has their exceptions, but nobody is good at it until they understand the basic premise and had a lot of mileage in doing the basics right.
And while that is super awesome and I would totally notice and ogle from afar... I'd also shrink into a corner, because that kind of class wouldn't notice me... With my payless shoes, my Walmart jacket, and my amazon purse. 😊
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jst_dropping_in wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I'm a firm believer that men make the clothes, the clothes don't necessarily make the man.
However, one of my biggest pet peeves is when a man still dresses like a teenager.
Jeans, button up shirt, nice shoes ✓
Well tailored suit ✓
Jeans, white tee and work boots/clean sneakers ✓
What about tie dye?2 -
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jst_dropping_in wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »jst_dropping_in wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I'm a firm believer that men make the clothes, the clothes don't necessarily make the man.
However, one of my biggest pet peeves is when a man still dresses like a teenager.
Jeans, button up shirt, nice shoes ✓
Well tailored suit ✓
Jeans, white tee and work boots/clean sneakers ✓
What about tie dye?
ETA
Tie Dye AND capes 😁
Yessss capes do be coming2 -
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jst_dropping_in wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »jst_dropping_in wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »jst_dropping_in wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I'm a firm believer that men make the clothes, the clothes don't necessarily make the man.
However, one of my biggest pet peeves is when a man still dresses like a teenager.
Jeans, button up shirt, nice shoes ✓
Well tailored suit ✓
Jeans, white tee and work boots/clean sneakers ✓
What about tie dye?
ETA
Tie Dye AND capes 😁
Yessss capes do be coming
Wait...did that tie dye start out as a plain white tee? 🤔 That could be a total deal breaker! Were you trying to mask the stains on it from last week's dinner? If so, WINNER!
…….yes?……..2 -
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jst_dropping_in wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »jst_dropping_in wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »jst_dropping_in wrote: »CaptainFantastic01 wrote: »jst_dropping_in wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
I'm a firm believer that men make the clothes, the clothes don't necessarily make the man.
However, one of my biggest pet peeves is when a man still dresses like a teenager.
Jeans, button up shirt, nice shoes ✓
Well tailored suit ✓
Jeans, white tee and work boots/clean sneakers ✓
What about tie dye?
ETA
Tie Dye AND capes 😁
Yessss capes do be coming
Wait...did that tie dye start out as a plain white tee? 🤔 That could be a total deal breaker! Were you trying to mask the stains on it from last week's dinner? If so, WINNER!
…….yes?……..
Bonus points for exaggerating and lack of full sentence structure bc proper punctuation is so over rated but for future reference please refrain from answering a question with another question 😋
All kidding aside, have a great weekend!
Thanks! You too!1 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »theeldestberry wrote: »Dees_Apples wrote: »Can we get a vote from the women on what mode of dress they prefer on a man? Casual jeans, t-shirt, and sneakers? Or more dressed up?
Biggest thing that's successful for me is being a half step off from the crowd, without regard to the event.
If it's work and very casual (lots of jeans and hoodies), I might wear a polo or fitted tee instead of a hoodie, or maybe my hoodie is better fit and material.
If it's a suit event, mine will be tailored where most guys will be their one poorly fit suit. I might have a pocket square, but tieless even if everyone else is in a tie. It's the little details - I'm not trying to show anybody up by obviously outdressing (like wearing a tux to a suit event, or a sports coat to a hoodie workplace), I'm just trying to present a bit more polished version of the accepted dress.
Getting noticed by women isn't about a genre of clothing - sure, they have their individual preferences, some really dig jeans and leather jackets, or whatever. I believe it's about being subtly noticable as different in a good way. Clean is usually good. Ironed is usually good. Fitted well is good. And each of those has their exceptions, but nobody is good at it until they understand the basic premise and had a lot of mileage in doing the basics right.
And while that is super awesome and I would totally notice and ogle from afar... I'd also shrink into a corner, because that kind of class wouldn't notice me... With my payless shoes, my Walmart jacket, and my amazon purse. 😊
I'll echo what @Dees_Apples said, it's not the place the clothing comes from, it's the fit. I notice *tons* of women regardless of clothing brand or where they shop. If your Amazon purse is cute or your Walmart jacket suits you well, I'm all about it. Most of my hoodies come from Amazon.1
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