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which is the best diet for overall health and weight loss
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Wait about ten years and we'll know who was wrong and who was right. And while you are dying of autoimmune diseases we'll be the ones benefitting from our leaky gut programs.
I trust in the Flying Spaghetti Monster to bring me gut health and long life.
Because the Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as real as "leaky gut" is. And there are people who are True Believers in the Flying Spaghetti monster, so he must be real even though it's not scientifically proven and all credible sources say he's just made up, amirite?16 -
Wait about ten years and we'll know who was wrong and who was right. And while you are dying of autoimmune diseases we'll be the ones benefitting from our leaky gut programs.
I trust in the Flying Spaghetti Monster to bring me gut health and long life.
Because the Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as real as "leaky gut" is. And there are people who are True Believers in the Flying Spaghetti monster, so he must be real even though it's not scientifically proven, amirite?
It doesn't matter that the Flying Spaghetti monster has no formal training or understanding of the gastrointestinal system. I always listen to chiropractors when i have gut issues.11 -
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Another misimfornd 'bro'
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http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.14 -
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
The NIH recommends not eating white foods?11 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.5 -
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
If you're talking about bloodletting, that wasn't part of mainstream medicine100 years ago. By the early 20th century, it was already understood by most to not be effective and was generally only used by fringe practitioners, the predecessors of those who today diagnose "leaky gut" and tell you to avoid any food that is white.14 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand6 -
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http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/abstract/S1550-4131(15)00350-2
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https://medium.com/@kevinnbass/the-data-do-not-support-the-idea-that-the-low-fat-dietary-guidelines-caused-the-obesity-epidemic-687e382894ed
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28193517
"While low-carbohydrate diets have been suggested to partially subvert these processes by increasing energy expenditure and promoting fat loss, our meta-analysis of 32 controlled feeding studies with isocaloric substitution of carbohydrate for fat found that both energy expenditure (26 kcal/d; P <.0001) and fat loss (16 g/d; P <.0001) were greater with lower fat diets"6 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand
If she is still touting the standard food pyramid to you I would change your doctor - but hey feel free to pound down that pasta all day long if you like
Funny I pound pasta as you say and my health markers are perfect. I used to eat low carb and high fat, I had horrible cholesterol numbers. I reversed them by listening to my ill informed doctor.
You do you.8 -
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Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand
If she is still touting the standard food pyramid to you I would change your doctor - but hey feel free to pound down that pasta all day long if you like
Because the food pyramid tells you to pound down pasta all day long...give it a rest brah...15 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
Conclusion:
The low-carbohydrate diet was more effective for weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor reduction than the low-fat diet. Restricting carbohydrate may be an option for persons seeking to lose weight and reduce cardiovascular risk factors.
That is absolutely not true.
I guess you can take it up with National Institutes of Health
Or with my PCP. Which I did and I will take her advice.
Which she should be reading the latest research - until 100 years cutting a was great way to get rid of disease
BS
Yeah you are right - doctors shouldn't stay well read with the latest research
Wow, you think they don't stay up on research? Head in the sand
If she is still touting the standard food pyramid to you I would change your doctor - but hey feel free to pound down that pasta all day long if you like
"MyPlate" (what replaced the food pyramid in 2011) recommends 30% grains. Even if you think this is high, this hardly represents what I would think of as "pound down that pasta all day long."
I would be more wary of taking advice from someone who thought the food pyramid was still current than I would of someone who suggested 30% grains in my diet.17 -
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LOL its the second to the bottom and when you throw vegetables and fruit which is the bottom - the bottom together are massive loaded with sugar
The bottom of what?
The food pyramid was replaced in 2011. While "MyPlate," the replacement" has a bottom, it isn't meant to represent what you should eat the most of. It's more like a pie chart.
It might be helpful if you took some time to make yourself familiar with current nutritional recommendations.14 -
Ummm, the bottom of the pyramid is foundational, which means, most important. Did you mean loaded with carbohydrates? Because vegetables and pasta are both low in sugar.
Besides, the US government has switched to the plate; which gives a big pie slice for the fruits and vegetables. Yaay fruits and vegetables.7 -
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Oh noes...fruits and vegetables...
Good *kitten* lord...
ETA: I'd also say that most vegans and people who are otherwise largely plant based are generally in pretty good health...
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