I guess "Whole" Foods does not mean "healthy"...
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janejellyroll wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »MyrnaSolganick wrote: »Found out a muffin Iiked from Whole Food bakery - a vegan chocolate chip muffin - has - are we ready? 780 calories. I was stunned. that is more than half my daily calories. That means a quarter of the muffin - which is not much - packs 195 calories. I wont be eating that muffin any more. What I dont get is how they can offer such an item in the bakery - and what the hey is in it that packs that many calories? I think cheesecake is even less caloric than the muffin!
There is plenty of garbage to be bought at Whole Foods.
Having said that, which part of that muffin is whole food exactly? Because as far as I can tell its all processed.
Yeah, Whole Foods doesn't mean they sell only whole foods (and a muffin obviously is processed).
WF also sells a whole variety of stuff, including B&J's vegan ice cream, which you'd better believe is high cal.
Also, at my store, they sell Jeni's, which is not in my usual grocery.
They sell tons of high cal prepared foods, and some excellent cheese options, and -- again in my store -- a decent variety of wine and beer. Not sure why someone would think that something from WF would be low cal (or a "whole food").
They also have a really good selection of fruits and veg in my local store, and plenty of other things I like, I enjoy shopping there and am not slamming them for having a wide variety of foods like any other decent grocery.
I love my WF for their quality of fruits and veggies (organic or not), seafood and fantastic grass fed / organic meat. This is "whole food".
Any "junky" stuff can be had MUCH much cheaper elsewhere.
Valid point. If you are going to go to a place like Whole Foods not sure why you'd go there to buy a muffin.
Because their baked goods are delicious. (And sadly, loaded with calories, which is why it's a once every month treat.)
I personally have never had anything from the Whole Foods bakery that wasn't delicious. And my husband says the non-vegan stuff is really good too.
I long for the day I have enough calories leftover to get a piece of cake. They look delicious, but not for 500+ calories.
Right now, my current downfalls are the snickerdoodles, and the peanut butter + jelly shortbreads. The latter are OMG amazing.2 -
collectingblues wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »MyrnaSolganick wrote: »Found out a muffin Iiked from Whole Food bakery - a vegan chocolate chip muffin - has - are we ready? 780 calories. I was stunned. that is more than half my daily calories. That means a quarter of the muffin - which is not much - packs 195 calories. I wont be eating that muffin any more. What I dont get is how they can offer such an item in the bakery - and what the hey is in it that packs that many calories? I think cheesecake is even less caloric than the muffin!
There is plenty of garbage to be bought at Whole Foods.
Having said that, which part of that muffin is whole food exactly? Because as far as I can tell its all processed.
Yeah, Whole Foods doesn't mean they sell only whole foods (and a muffin obviously is processed).
WF also sells a whole variety of stuff, including B&J's vegan ice cream, which you'd better believe is high cal.
Also, at my store, they sell Jeni's, which is not in my usual grocery.
They sell tons of high cal prepared foods, and some excellent cheese options, and -- again in my store -- a decent variety of wine and beer. Not sure why someone would think that something from WF would be low cal (or a "whole food").
They also have a really good selection of fruits and veg in my local store, and plenty of other things I like, I enjoy shopping there and am not slamming them for having a wide variety of foods like any other decent grocery.
I love my WF for their quality of fruits and veggies (organic or not), seafood and fantastic grass fed / organic meat. This is "whole food".
Any "junky" stuff can be had MUCH much cheaper elsewhere.
Valid point. If you are going to go to a place like Whole Foods not sure why you'd go there to buy a muffin.
Because their baked goods are delicious. (And sadly, loaded with calories, which is why it's a once every month treat.)
Yeah fair enough, I withdraw my comment
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lol. it's a chocolate chip muffin, probably oversized. It's really just a giant choco chip cupcake.
having said that, just because something has more calories than you thought or would like, does not mean it is unhealthy. Nor does buying food from Whole Foods mean it will magically be lower in calorie.8 -
I was a little surprised to find out that a lot of things that get billed as "healthy hacks" and the like are far more calorie dense. Cauliflower crust pizza, while not containing wheat, uses a butt-ton of eggs and cheese to make that cauliflower stick together and form a crust.5
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fuzzylop72 wrote: »Muffins are just cupcakes with a better marketing dept
No--muffins are just sad, ugly cupcakes.11 -
JustinAnimal wrote: »I was a little surprised to find out that a lot of things that get billed as "healthy hacks" and the like are far more calorie dense. Cauliflower crust pizza, while not containing wheat, uses a butt-ton of eggs and cheese to make that cauliflower stick together and form a crust.
Yeah but arguably the nutritive value you would get from cauliflower plus the mix of carbs/protein and fat you would get from the califlower cheese egg mix is healthier than just getting some wheat bread. I think people focus way to much on calories when they should be more concerned with balanced nutrition. Not to say calories aren't important.8 -
I had a friend who thinks she can pound through a regular size bag of 'organic' nacho cheese chips because they're organic and therefore healthy and won't cause weight gain.
We don't hang out anymore.12 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »MyrnaSolganick wrote: »Found out a muffin Iiked from Whole Food bakery - a vegan chocolate chip muffin - has - are we ready? 780 calories. I was stunned. that is more than half my daily calories. That means a quarter of the muffin - which is not much - packs 195 calories. I wont be eating that muffin any more. What I dont get is how they can offer such an item in the bakery - and what the hey is in it that packs that many calories? I think cheesecake is even less caloric than the muffin!
There is plenty of garbage to be bought at Whole Foods.
Having said that, which part of that muffin is whole food exactly? Because as far as I can tell its all processed.
Yeah, Whole Foods doesn't mean they sell only whole foods (and a muffin obviously is processed).
WF also sells a whole variety of stuff, including B&J's vegan ice cream, which you'd better believe is high cal.
Also, at my store, they sell Jeni's, which is not in my usual grocery.
They sell tons of high cal prepared foods, and some excellent cheese options, and -- again in my store -- a decent variety of wine and beer. Not sure why someone would think that something from WF would be low cal (or a "whole food").
They also have a really good selection of fruits and veg in my local store, and plenty of other things I like, I enjoy shopping there and am not slamming them for having a wide variety of foods like any other decent grocery.
I love my WF for their quality of fruits and veggies (organic or not), seafood and fantastic grass fed / organic meat. This is "whole food".
Any "junky" stuff can be had MUCH much cheaper elsewhere.
Valid point. If you are going to go to a place like Whole Foods not sure why you'd go there to buy a muffin.
Because their baked goods are delicious. (And sadly, loaded with calories, which is why it's a once every month treat.)
Yeah fair enough, I withdraw my comment
S'Okay. I was a WF stockholder until the acquisition, so I am all over "everything awesome comes from Whole Foods".
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Aaron_K123 wrote: »JustinAnimal wrote: »I was a little surprised to find out that a lot of things that get billed as "healthy hacks" and the like are far more calorie dense. Cauliflower crust pizza, while not containing wheat, uses a butt-ton of eggs and cheese to make that cauliflower stick together and form a crust.
Yeah but arguably the nutritive value you would get from cauliflower plus the mix of carbs/protein and fat you would get from the califlower cheese egg mix is healthier than just getting some wheat bread. I think people focus way to much on calories when they should be more concerned with balanced nutrition. Not to say calories aren't important.
I would call pizza already a pretty balanced meal item. Carbs, fat, vegetables, protein, etc. It's all there. No help needed from stinking cauliflower!
J/K, I do enjoy cauliflower crust when I feel like going through the pain of making it, but I'm under no illusions about it's calorie content. It's as calorie-laden as normal crust, if not more.0 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »JustinAnimal wrote: »I was a little surprised to find out that a lot of things that get billed as "healthy hacks" and the like are far more calorie dense. Cauliflower crust pizza, while not containing wheat, uses a butt-ton of eggs and cheese to make that cauliflower stick together and form a crust.
Yeah but arguably the nutritive value you would get from cauliflower plus the mix of carbs/protein and fat you would get from the califlower cheese egg mix is healthier than just getting some wheat bread. I think people focus way to much on calories when they should be more concerned with balanced nutrition. Not to say calories aren't important.
I would call pizza already a pretty balanced meal item. Carbs, fat, vegetables, protein, etc. It's all there. No help needed from stinking cauliflower!
J/K, I do enjoy cauliflower crust when I feel like going through the pain of making it, but I'm under no illusions about it's calorie content. It's as calorie-laden as normal crust, if not more.
Oh yeah no totally, speaking personally califlower crust sounds like something Satan himself cooked up.7 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »JustinAnimal wrote: »I was a little surprised to find out that a lot of things that get billed as "healthy hacks" and the like are far more calorie dense. Cauliflower crust pizza, while not containing wheat, uses a butt-ton of eggs and cheese to make that cauliflower stick together and form a crust.
Yeah but arguably the nutritive value you would get from cauliflower plus the mix of carbs/protein and fat you would get from the califlower cheese egg mix is healthier than just getting some wheat bread. I think people focus way to much on calories when they should be more concerned with balanced nutrition. Not to say calories aren't important.
I would call pizza already a pretty balanced meal item. Carbs, fat, vegetables, protein, etc. It's all there. No help needed from stinking cauliflower!
J/K, I do enjoy cauliflower crust when I feel like going through the pain of making it, but I'm under no illusions about it's calorie content. It's as calorie-laden as normal crust, if not more.
Oh yeah no totally, speaking personally califlower crust sounds like something Satan himself cooked up.
I would rather do a cracker thin regular crust than cauliflower!7 -
Muffins are basically cake without frosting. I'm not sure why anyone would think a chocolate chip muffin was low calorie or that certain stores only sell "healthy" or low calorie foods especially when they have a bakery department and cookie aisles.4
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pomegranatecloud wrote: »Muffins are basically cake without frosting. I'm not sure why anyone would think a chocolate chip muffin was low calorie or that certain stores only sell "healthy" or low calorie foods especially when they have a bakery department and cookie aisles.
Not to mention rows and rows of wines, and alllll the cheeses to go with them!
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pomegranatecloud wrote: »Muffins are basically cake without frosting. I'm not sure why anyone would think a chocolate chip muffin was low calorie or that certain stores only sell "healthy" or low calorie foods especially when they have a bakery department and cookie aisles.
Not to mention rows and rows of wines, and alllll the cheeses to go with them!
But wines are grapes! 3 -
MyrnaSolganick wrote: »Found out a muffin Iiked from Whole Food bakery - a vegan chocolate chip muffin - has - are we ready? 780 calories. I was stunned. that is more than half my daily calories. That means a quarter of the muffin - which is not much - packs 195 calories. I wont be eating that muffin any more. What I dont get is how they can offer such an item in the bakery - and what the hey is in it that packs that many calories? I think cheesecake is even less caloric than the muffin!
Just as an aside, the calorie content of a particular food has nothing to do with the nutritional value. There are numerous whole foods which are nutritionally awesome and also pack a calorie punch.
Also, in regards to "don't get how they can offer such an item in the bakery"...most baked goods are pretty calorie dense as they typically contain quite a bit of fat and sugar...but beyond that, people have varying caloric needs. I need anywhere from 2800-3000 calories to maintain weight...I need some calorie bombs from time to time to meet my calorie needs...and I have a desk job and am moderately active outside of that...a labor worker's needs could be considerably more.
That said...I don't think I'd consider a muffing really to be a "whole food"...nor would I consider a muffin to be a particularly nutritious choice in general...nothing wrong with that, I make less nutritious choices all of the time...I just don't think I'd have ever considered a muffin a health food.3 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »MyrnaSolganick wrote: »Found out a muffin Iiked from Whole Food bakery - a vegan chocolate chip muffin - has - are we ready? 780 calories. I was stunned. that is more than half my daily calories. That means a quarter of the muffin - which is not much - packs 195 calories. I wont be eating that muffin any more. What I dont get is how they can offer such an item in the bakery - and what the hey is in it that packs that many calories? I think cheesecake is even less caloric than the muffin!
There is plenty of garbage to be bought at Whole Foods.
Having said that, which part of that muffin is whole food exactly? Because as far as I can tell its all processed.
Yeah, Whole Foods doesn't mean they sell only whole foods (and a muffin obviously is processed).
WF also sells a whole variety of stuff, including B&J's vegan ice cream, which you'd better believe is high cal.
Also, at my store, they sell Jeni's, which is not in my usual grocery.
They sell tons of high cal prepared foods, and some excellent cheese options, and -- again in my store -- a decent variety of wine and beer. Not sure why someone would think that something from WF would be low cal (or a "whole food").
They also have a really good selection of fruits and veg in my local store, and plenty of other things I like, I enjoy shopping there and am not slamming them for having a wide variety of foods like any other decent grocery.
I love my WF for their quality of fruits and veggies (organic or not), seafood and fantastic grass fed / organic meat. This is "whole food".
Any "junky" stuff can be had MUCH much cheaper elsewhere.
Valid point. If you are going to go to a place like Whole Foods not sure why you'd go there to buy a muffin.
Their prepared salads are an easy thing to bring to a "bring food" event and pretty varied and tasty. Not sure why the muffin (I don't buy muffins ever, I'm in the "if you want dessert, just have dessert" camp), but I'm not against prepared foods at WF.2 -
I treat calories like money. I wouldn’t want to spend that many calories on a muffin.5
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Vegan isn't necessarily whole foods either.4
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Muffins are basically cake. They're made with flours, sweeteners, fats, flavourings.
Whole Foods =/= calorie free. The caloric value of a food has no relation to its healthiness or its nutrient content.
This.
Food sold in an organic store doesn't mean it's going to be less calories just because it's been prepared using healthier ingredients.0 -
In many cases, the vegan version of something has way more calories than its non-vegan counterpart. But it’s especially true with baked goods.4
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