How to track HIIT, specifically Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred
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For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.6 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
Just because you don’t know the difference between HIIT and circuit training. Doesn’t mean Jillian Michaels program qualifies as HIIT
No you’re totally missing the point. Jillian Michaels Body Shred doesn’t just have intervals with “varied intensity” like one person said. It is a structured workout with explicit high intensity intervals and explicit low intensity/rest intervals.
Interval training ≠ HIIT. That is not to say it doesn't have an effect, but it's not HIIT.
I wouldn't describe C25K as HIIT, but I would describe it as interval training.4 -
For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
F**k me, buzzword bingo. And the classic what you're reading is nonsense red flag of for up to 24-48 hours post training8 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Log it as 'circuit training'.
This is a classic example of the garbage marketing going on in the fitness industry. Jillian Michaels fitness videos are not HIIT in any way, shape or form. HIIT has become very trendy (just like intermittent fasting and keto on the dietary side) and there is a lot of magick and wizardry being ascribed to it/them that are, shall we say, a bit far-fetched.
This 1000000%
Agreed. But I guess accuracy and facts are not what is important to the OP.
No the OP is looking for accuracy and she's totally right. Body Shred is an interval training workout. For all of the people who are questioning it, I have to ask...have you ever done it?
No it's not. I've done the Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred videos which is what she's talking about. I also know what actual true HIIT is. They aren't the same thing. Not even in the same universe.
Interval training and high intensity interval training aren't the same thing. There's a difference.
Log the 30 day shred as circuit training, that's weight lifting with an aerobic component and that's exactly what it is.4 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
F**k me, buzzword bingo. And the classic what you're reading is nonsense red flag of for up to 24-48 hours post training
I think "it's kinetic" was my absolute favourite. Wow - exercise that involves movement, truly groundbreaking.....
If OP is still reading - you do realise that an attack on JM's ludicrous marketing isn't an attack on you or even an attack on your exercise choices?6 -
middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.2 -
middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Exactly this. I've done it. It's a fun workout, and IMO a really good way to start. Not HIIT. Circuit training is a good way to log it (although circuit training can overstate calories if you are new to working out.)
I find it mystifying that some are seeing "it's not HIIT" as some kind of insult. Personally, I rarely do HIIT, as I prefer other kinds of workouts.7 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.
No, it's 3 min of strength (not HIIT, but with some cardio elements to it), 2 min of cardio (again, not HIIT), and 1 min of abs.2 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.
The 3- and 2-minute intervals might be higher intensity than the 1-minute interval, but they are NOT high enough to qualify it as HIIT. HIIT requires a level of effort that is, quite frankly, unsustainable for 5 minutes without a break.5 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
F**k me, buzzword bingo. And the classic what you're reading is nonsense red flag of for up to 24-48 hours post training
I think "it's kinetic" was my absolute favourite. Wow - exercise that involves movement, truly groundbreaking.....
If OP is still reading - you do realise that an attack on JM's ludicrous marketing isn't an attack on you or even an attack on your exercise choices?
Exactly. In my initial post, I first answered the question ("log it as circuit training", which is what it is). The second paragraph was a tangential commentary on the woo in fitness industry marketing and their trendiness of calling everything "HIIT" nowadays. Not intended (or phrased) as an attack against the OP or her exercise choices.4 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Exactly this. I've done it. It's a fun workout, and IMO a really good way to start. Not HIIT. Circuit training is a good way to log it (although circuit training can overstate calories if you are new to working out.)
I find it mystifying that some are seeing "it's not HIIT" as some kind of insult. Personally, I rarely do HIIT, as I prefer other kinds of workouts.
Exactly! 100%.
Nobody hates Jillian. Ok, maybe some people do.
But the ire is directed more at the misinformation rampant in marketing.
99.9% of things called HIIT aren't HIIT. They are interval training. Nobody thinks "just" interval training is worthless or bad, but it ISN'T HIIT.
Instead of getting cranky because they were corrected, they should just take this as "TIL" and deal.
Wisdom is knowing that you don't know everything, accepting correction with grace, and realizing you'll benefit from learning new things from those who know a little something you don't.
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baconslave wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Exactly this. I've done it. It's a fun workout, and IMO a really good way to start. Not HIIT. Circuit training is a good way to log it (although circuit training can overstate calories if you are new to working out.)
I find it mystifying that some are seeing "it's not HIIT" as some kind of insult. Personally, I rarely do HIIT, as I prefer other kinds of workouts.
Exactly! 100%.
Nobody hates Jillian. Ok, maybe some people do. But the ire is directed more at the misinformation rampant in marketing.
99.9% of things called HIIT aren't HIIT. They are interval training. Nobody thinks "just" interval training is worthless or bad, but it ISN'T HIIT.
Instead of getting cranky because they were corrected, they should just take this as "TIL" and deal.
Wisdom is knowing that you don't know everything, accepting correction with grace, and realizing you'll benefit from learning new things from those who know a little something you don't.
I'd go a step further, for GPP for the average person and novice, Decently structured circuit training is superior to HIIT.6 -
I'm willing to bet that 99% of people who complete a real HIIT session wouldn't return for another one, especially a good percentage of people around here who are not your average high performance athlete. That is not a knock on anyone, it's simply not fun to nearly puke while desperately trying to catch a breath and unless you're training for something specific it's not necessary.7
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I'm willing to bet that 99% of people who complete a real HIIT session wouldn't return for another one, especially a good percentage of people around here who are not your average high performance athlete. That is not a knock on anyone, it's simply not fun to nearly puke while desperately trying to catch a breath and unless you're training for something specific it's not necessary.
Lol, true! If you've ever done a true HIIT session, you know the difference.1 -
I'm willing to bet that 99% of people who complete a real HIIT session wouldn't return for another one, especially a good percentage of people around here who are not your average high performance athlete. That is not a knock on anyone, it's simply not fun to nearly puke while desperately trying to catch a breath and unless you're training for something specific it's not necessary.
FIFY, based on my experience at least. Ug.3 -
That’s my take on HIIT! HIIT = puking2
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I do circuit training workouts. They are brutal. I sweat like a dog. I am absolutely getting a great workout. I am getting better and stronger. They are not HITT workouts. Being hard does not make them HIIT workouts.
I did a "master's class" at my gym once that was a HIIT class. I had to stop during the WARM UP because I was dying and wondering where my inhaler was from my youth.
FYI I've done 30 Day Shred. It's not HITT. And there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's a good beginner workout.5 -
NicoleHaki wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »For anybody who's interested, you can read the description of BodyShred here (straight from Jillian's website itself). Complete with all the usual industry buzzwords and marketing woo.
Not HIIT.
Just to note OP asked about the 30 Day Shred which is a home workout that lasts about 24 min, not the BodyShred class.
It is still the 3-2-1 format.
Still not HIIT though.
Cheers, h.
Yeah but what you’re missing about the 3-2-1 format is that the 3 and the 2 min intervals are high intensity intervals and the 1 min intervals are low intensity/reat intervals (ex: hold a plank or boat pose).
Suppose you wanted to argue that HIIT is different from interval training and Body Shred would qualify as interval but not HIIT. I suppose you could say that but that still doesn’t make Body Shred circuit training.
I never said it was circuit training. I said I logged it as gymnastics, not that it was gymnastics, and that is what I advised, with other options.
It comes down to what one can equate it to with regards to perceived energy expenditure, and previous experience.middlehaitch wrote: »When I searched for both "HIIT", "High Intensity Interval Training" and "Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred", there were no results. This is a workout that has three six-minute circuits of 3 minutes of strength, 2 minutes of cardio, and 1 minute of ab work, and it meant to be very intense. How do you record things like that? Thank you
I logged it as gymnastics. It worked for me.
Basically, choose, aerobics, Pilates, circuit training, or gymnastics, etc, log, and monitor. Adjust your calories depending on results.
Cheers, h.
You are talking about a 'shred' studio class, not the home '30 day shred'. Most of the responders are talking about the latter- a fun, effective 24min workout.
Cheers, h.
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I'm not sure why these threads amuse me. It is kinda sad how the fitness and diet industries keep people so confused. To the folks who fall for this nonsense, keep your credit cards handy and be ready to jump on the next big thing. We'll see you again next year when you start over (for the 7th time)...2
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I'm not sure why these threads amuse me. It is kinda sad how the fitness and diet industries keep people so confused. To the folks who fall for this nonsense, keep your credit cards handy and be ready to jump on the next big thing. We'll see you again next year when you start over (for the 7th time)...
Sad but true. Always searching for the magic bullet instead of just doing the plain old work.1
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