How to Stop Eating Sugar
candylilacs
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https://nytimes.com/guides/smarterliving/how-to-stop-eating-sugar
I saw "That Sugar Movie" last night!
Previously, it's all I had talked about with my husband, the chance to use less sugar.
I saw "That Sugar Movie" last night!
Previously, it's all I had talked about with my husband, the chance to use less sugar.
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To co-workers?0
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I hope not to science minded people as that documentary is pretty bad.11
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Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day!
And here I was thinking that as a first world resident with great access to food and a relatively reliable food safety system, I had it made.13 -
Instead of using sugar in my baking/cooking, I just use stevia or erythritol (or a combo). I honestly don't taste the difference and I tolerate sugar alcohols well, so I like that I can save some calories that way.
So if I'm craving something sweet like cookies, instead of buying sugary ones, I will make my own at home with stevia.6 -
I can't deal with anything that says sugar makes you fat except the sugar in fruit.15
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Nope. Nu-uh. Can't make me look.10
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I have a major commercially successful cereal everyday, what would be my A1C? I can't have it, and know I can't eat Chobani flips.3
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I stopped reading when it got to suggesting breakfast should be bland. That's straight out of Dr. Kellogg's "breakfast is the most important meal" handbook to keep factory workers from masturbating at work. I haven't seen it come around again as a purity test in a long while. Or course, it would be Taubes who resurrects that nonsense.16
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Eh, unless someone I trust tells me it's interesting, I'm not bothering.
I currently love smoothies for breakfast, and mine has sugar from zucchini or winter squash, kale or spinach or both, avocado, and strawberries, most commonly. Love it.
I don't usually consume added sugar with meals. If I have sugar I generally am choosing to have some, as with the banana spring roll with vegan ice cream I made the other day.
The exception is some dry rubs and condiments (hot sauces, often) may have a bit of sugar, not enough to bother, and some breads have them (I don't eat much bread since it's usually not worth the calories, but I had some pita today).
The percentage of sugar people consume from savory items is actually quite low, I think it's a made up issue. How you cut back on sugar if you consume too much is look at your diary, see where it's coming from, and eat less of those things.
Most of my sugar is from fruit (some from veg) and I'm perfectly happy with that, and not worried about sugar. The current obsession with sugar is silly.4 -
candylilacs wrote: »I have a major commercially successful cereal everyday, what would be my A1C? I can't have it, and know I can't eat Chobani flips.
<5.7 was the reference range
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I eat 400grams of carbs a day, yes lots of fiber, but I test my own a1c. 5.2. That's from some One who had a fasting bs of 339 once and an a1c on an office visit of 6.3. The home test kit I use are actually proven to test higher than lab drawn blood. Average fasting b.s. of 85 at this time. My sugar intake , according mfp, is 130gms a day. Now that shows all of the "sugar" in my quinoa and broccoli. Will this change? Who knows. I do limit my fats to 80gms a day and protein to nearly 200.1
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Sugar is not that bad. I am not saying you should have a 100% diet with stuff filled with sugar, but like everything else, in moderation.3
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OP, don't get health information from documentaries. They are entertainment, and cherry pick subjects and data to try to convince you that their pet cause is correct. At best, you should use it as motivation to learn more about a subject, from better sources.18
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singingflutelady wrote: »I hope not to science minded people as that documentary is pretty bad.
That Sugar Film isn't even a "documentary". It's a one-sided, agenda-driven hack job made by an actor (not a scientist or researcher), relying upon information from crackpots like Gary Taubes (who is a journalist, not a scientist or researcher). It's full of cherry-picked half truths and junk science and not even worth the waste of time to watch it, let alone relying upon any of the "information" in it.13 -
I have A1C in December 2017 at 7.0. That's in diabetes range.
Critical reasoning forbids me to take what he's saying at face value (That Sugar Film) but at least the New York Times is taking the reins. Forgive me, but it's at least having a look-see.
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If you want to eat less sugar just eat less sugar. You know...the things with sugar. Don't eat them. Or eat a lot less of them.
Or just eat the damn sugar.11 -
Have you had any dietary training yet, @candylilacs ? Do you have a glucometer yet? My diabetes is in remission from significant weight loss but I had it for a decade and took all the training. Testing my blood sugar after various meals were a real eye opener.
You’d be surprised how various carbs (not just sugar) affect your blood sugar.
Then have a meal eating the same carb with a little protein and fat and see the difference.
My diabetic go to cereals all have fiber and no added sugar. They include oatmeal, Cheerios, and shredded wheat. I raged all over Special K because of its abysmal fiber count. After all that menu cruising, I routinely eat my oatmeal with raisins (sugar) and Yogurt.3 -
Dietary training? Are you Canadian?
Here in America, the doctors lecture you (aside from, "I heard this all before," and they'll be interrupting you, "You haven't heard this before because I haven't said it yet"). Yes, I've had a registered dietician.
I look around at all this failed attempts at dieting. And that's when it hit me....because of sugar. So, I don't go to sweets -- but if do have them, I need to have them.
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candylilacs wrote: »Dietary training? Are you Canadian?
Here in America, the doctors lecture you (aside from, "I heard this all before," and they'll be interrupting you, "You haven't heard this before because I haven't said it yet"). Yes, I've had a registered dietician.
I look around at all this failed attempts at dieting. And that's when it hit me....because of sugar. So, I don't go to sweets -- but if do have them, I need to have them.
I have never failed at dieting. still lose fat and weight and still eating sugar and all the good things in life. if you are failing at dieting its something else causing the failure. its not sugar unless its making you go over your maintenance calories. I got fat eating too many fruits and veggies.7 -
I read part of the way into it and decided that it was not going to help me much at all. I don't use grain-based breakfasts, don't drink sugary drinks, and indulge in desserts only occasionally. There is a valid point in the NYT using its platform to counter the long and successful campaign of the sugar industry to blame fat. Unfortunately, the proof is in the scholarly studies and there's no popular way to present it that we can't ridicule.1
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candylilacs wrote: »Dietary training? Are you Canadian?
Here in America, the doctors lecture you (aside from, "I heard this all before," and they'll be interrupting you, "You haven't heard this before because I haven't said it yet"). Yes, I've had a registered dietician.
I look around at all this failed attempts at dieting. And that's when it hit me....because of sugar. So, I don't go to sweets -- but if do have them, I need to have them.
You need to find a better doctor. There are RDS that specialize in diabetes as well as Diabetic counselors or coaches available through some insurance providers. Have you checked out diabetes.org ?3 -
Eh, unless someone I trust tells me it's interesting, I'm not bothering.
Not sure if i am someone you trust, LOL - but I read it and No, not very interesting.
Some hype about sugar industry being the devil and some hype about artificial sweeteners can cause metabolic changes - and the rest dramatised stating the flaming obvious - eg sugary cereals like cocoa puffs contain added sugar (no kidding!) and You dont have to have grains for breakfast (again, no kidding!) Cans of coke contain lots of sugar ( again, no kidding!) and more along same vein.6 -
As a diabetic, I actually found this to be a good, helpful article. I almost didn't read it after reading all the comments here first, but I'm glad I did.1
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When I crave something sweet, I eat fruit and no sugar added yogurt with stevia. I try to focus on savory flavors instead of sweet in my cooking. I make my own salad dressings without adding sugar (again, focusing on savory). I use a 1/2 tsp of maple syrup on oatmeal (also 1 tsp earth balance, cinnamon, ginger and a tbsp of walnuts or pecans to pump up the flavor) and stevia in my coffee along with some cinnamon or cocoa powder. If I am really wanting something sweet, I go to a restaurant and eat the tastiest dessert that I can find (self limiting--not like baking a dozen chocolate chip cookies or buying a quart of ice cream and then being tempted to binge at home). Sugar isn't a villain, you just have to find a way to manage its use so you can keep your blood sugar steady.3
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candylilacs wrote: »I have A1C in December 2017 at 7.0. That's in diabetes range.
So you should follow the advice of your doctor and get a referral to a CDE, definitely.
I'm not sure why that would mean you should tell the rest of us that WE are eating wrong if we don't follow some silly movie.11 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »candylilacs wrote: »I have A1C in December 2017 at 7.0. That's in diabetes range.
So you should follow the advice of your doctor and get a referral to a CDE, definitely.
I'm not sure why that would mean you should tell the rest of us that WE are eating wrong if we don't follow some silly movie.
Reminds me of the other silly movie "What the health".5 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I have never failed at dieting. still lose fat and weight and still eating sugar and all the good things in life. if you are failing at dieting its something else causing the failure. its not sugar unless its making you go over your maintenance calories.
"I have never failed at dieting." Well, aren't you special?
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janejellyroll wrote: »Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day!
And here I was thinking that as a first world resident with great access to food and a relatively reliable food safety system, I had it made.
The full sentence was: "Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day for sugar." Okay so "dangerous" might be overkill for most people, but In terms of a meal, I would have to agree that breakfast often contains the most sugar. Pancakes with syrup, oatmeal with brown sugar, and sweet cereal used to be typical breakfasts for me. I have a savoury breakfast now, usually an egg with veggies of some kind and toast. If you factor in dessert, then perhaps supper competes. Maybe.
Which leads me to the main part of my disagreement with the article. I don't want to spend my time reading every ingredient list and nutrient label searching for hidden sugar. I DO want to avoid desserts and sweet snacks. I'm not necessarily saying it's bad advice, just opposite to the approach that works for me.
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candylilacs wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I have never failed at dieting. still lose fat and weight and still eating sugar and all the good things in life. if you are failing at dieting its something else causing the failure. its not sugar unless its making you go over your maintenance calories.
"I have never failed at dieting." Well, aren't you special?17 -
I don't carefully search for hidden sugar, and I would agree that's not all that significant when it comes to total sugar (the culprits are usually the obvious things, like desserts and sugary cereal and drinks and perhaps flavored yogurt), but I do obsessively read the label on anything I buy that I haven't before. Always have, even before I cared about calories, so maybe that's why I find the idea of hidden sugar so absurd.3
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