How to Stop Eating Sugar
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candylilacs wrote: »Dietary training? Are you Canadian?
Here in America, the doctors lecture you (aside from, "I heard this all before," and they'll be interrupting you, "You haven't heard this before because I haven't said it yet"). Yes, I've had a registered dietician.
I look around at all this failed attempts at dieting. And that's when it hit me....because of sugar. So, I don't go to sweets -- but if do have them, I need to have them.
You need to find a better doctor. There are RDS that specialize in diabetes as well as Diabetic counselors or coaches available through some insurance providers. Have you checked out diabetes.org ?3 -
Eh, unless someone I trust tells me it's interesting, I'm not bothering.
Not sure if i am someone you trust, LOL- but I read it and No, not very interesting.
Some hype about sugar industry being the devil and some hype about artificial sweeteners can cause metabolic changes - and the rest dramatised stating the flaming obvious - eg sugary cereals like cocoa puffs contain added sugar (no kidding!) and You dont have to have grains for breakfast (again, no kidding!) Cans of coke contain lots of sugar ( again, no kidding!) and more along same vein.6 -
As a diabetic, I actually found this to be a good, helpful article. I almost didn't read it after reading all the comments here first, but I'm glad I did.1
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When I crave something sweet, I eat fruit and no sugar added yogurt with stevia. I try to focus on savory flavors instead of sweet in my cooking. I make my own salad dressings without adding sugar (again, focusing on savory). I use a 1/2 tsp of maple syrup on oatmeal (also 1 tsp earth balance, cinnamon, ginger and a tbsp of walnuts or pecans to pump up the flavor) and stevia in my coffee along with some cinnamon or cocoa powder. If I am really wanting something sweet, I go to a restaurant and eat the tastiest dessert that I can find (self limiting--not like baking a dozen chocolate chip cookies or buying a quart of ice cream and then being tempted to binge at home). Sugar isn't a villain, you just have to find a way to manage its use so you can keep your blood sugar steady.3
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candylilacs wrote: »I have A1C in December 2017 at 7.0. That's in diabetes range.
So you should follow the advice of your doctor and get a referral to a CDE, definitely.
I'm not sure why that would mean you should tell the rest of us that WE are eating wrong if we don't follow some silly movie.11 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »candylilacs wrote: »I have A1C in December 2017 at 7.0. That's in diabetes range.
So you should follow the advice of your doctor and get a referral to a CDE, definitely.
I'm not sure why that would mean you should tell the rest of us that WE are eating wrong if we don't follow some silly movie.
Reminds me of the other silly movie "What the health".5 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I have never failed at dieting. still lose fat and weight and still eating sugar and all the good things in life. if you are failing at dieting its something else causing the failure. its not sugar unless its making you go over your maintenance calories.
"I have never failed at dieting." Well, aren't you special?
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janejellyroll wrote: »Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day!
And here I was thinking that as a first world resident with great access to food and a relatively reliable food safety system, I had it made.
The full sentence was: "Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day for sugar." Okay so "dangerous" might be overkill for most people, but In terms of a meal, I would have to agree that breakfast often contains the most sugar. Pancakes with syrup, oatmeal with brown sugar, and sweet cereal used to be typical breakfasts for me. I have a savoury breakfast now, usually an egg with veggies of some kind and toast. If you factor in dessert, then perhaps supper competes. Maybe.
Which leads me to the main part of my disagreement with the article. I don't want to spend my time reading every ingredient list and nutrient label searching for hidden sugar. I DO want to avoid desserts and sweet snacks. I'm not necessarily saying it's bad advice, just opposite to the approach that works for me.
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candylilacs wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »I have never failed at dieting. still lose fat and weight and still eating sugar and all the good things in life. if you are failing at dieting its something else causing the failure. its not sugar unless its making you go over your maintenance calories.
"I have never failed at dieting." Well, aren't you special?17 -
I don't carefully search for hidden sugar, and I would agree that's not all that significant when it comes to total sugar (the culprits are usually the obvious things, like desserts and sugary cereal and drinks and perhaps flavored yogurt), but I do obsessively read the label on anything I buy that I haven't before. Always have, even before I cared about calories, so maybe that's why I find the idea of hidden sugar so absurd.3
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Do carrots have hidden sugar?1
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goldthistime wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day!
And here I was thinking that as a first world resident with great access to food and a relatively reliable food safety system, I had it made.
The full sentence was: "Breakfast is the most dangerous meal of the day for sugar." Okay so "dangerous" might be overkill for most people, but In terms of a meal, I would have to agree that breakfast often contains the most sugar. Pancakes with syrup, oatmeal with brown sugar, and sweet cereal used to be typical breakfasts for me. I have a savoury breakfast now, usually an egg with veggies of some kind and toast. If you factor in dessert, then perhaps supper competes. Maybe.
Which leads me to the main part of my disagreement with the article. I don't want to spend my time reading every ingredient list and nutrient label searching for hidden sugar. I DO want to avoid desserts and sweet snacks. I'm not necessarily saying it's bad advice, just opposite to the approach that works for me.
Given that the subject of the article was sugar, I thought we could take it for granted the "danger" referenced was sugar and not, say, shark attack or being seduced by a mysterious handsome stranger who is hiding a wife and three kids and will wind up breaking your heart.10 -
Re breakfast being dangerous, I suspect janejellyroll's point is that that's absurd and overwrought language to use and that "dangerous" is the wrong word. I'd agree that it's more common to have lots of sugar at breakfast vs. lunch or dinner (other than desserts), but "dangerous" is the wrong word, and it's not like people who have a donut for breakfast, or even sugary cereal or pancakes or French toast with powdered sugar and syrup or cinnamon toast don't know they are consuming lots of sugar. People who try to pretend this is somehow a surprise or that we need special instructions on how to reduce sugar mystify me. It's basic common sense.5
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Excuse me, but don't you taste when something is sweet? I find it absurd that one would have to scour labels for "hidden sugar". When something is sweet or too sweet, I just limit it--because calories.2
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Re breakfast being dangerous, I suspect janejellyroll's point is that that's absurd and overwrought language to use and that "dangerous" is the wrong word. I'd agree that it's more common to have lots of sugar at breakfast vs. lunch or dinner (other than desserts), but "dangerous" is the wrong word, and it's not like people who have a donut for breakfast, or even sugary cereal or pancakes or French toast with powdered sugar and syrup or cinnamon toast don't know they are consuming lots of sugar. People who try to pretend this is somehow a surprise or that we need special instructions on how to reduce sugar mystify me. It's basic common sense.
That was exactly my point, thank you. I think it's ridiculously overwrought to describe breakfast as "dangerous," although if someone does feel that the food they are choosing for breakfast is contributing to an unhealthy weight or other health issues, that is something they should probably address. But to single out sugar in a single meal without mentioning portion size, overall calorie consumption for the day, and intake of sufficient vitamins and fiber seems curiously short-sighted to me.
You can easily be overweight or have an unhealthy diet without ever eating breakfast or while having mostly savory breakfasts. You can maintain a healthy weight or have a healthy diet while eating sweet things as part of breakfast. If someone wants sweet oatmeal, toast with jam, or sugar in their coffee for breakfast and it's part of a diet that is meeting their nutritional needs and providing the right amount of energy, I'm not convinced it is at all dangerous.
(Full disclosure: I had a raspberry scone for breakfast so my enjoyment of the occasional sweet breakfast is a factor here).5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Excuse me, but don't you taste when something is sweet? I find it absurd that one would have to scour labels for "hidden sugar". When something is sweet or too sweet, I just limit it--because calories.
I've seen people be surprised that condiments like BBQ sauce have so much sugar. I don't see how someone could miss it, but I do think some people don't "expect" sugar in a savory item so it's like their taste buds don't even recognize that it is there (or their taste buds recognize it, but it doesn't quite translate intellectually).2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Re breakfast being dangerous, I suspect janejellyroll's point is that that's absurd and overwrought language to use and that "dangerous" is the wrong word. I'd agree that it's more common to have lots of sugar at breakfast vs. lunch or dinner (other than desserts), but "dangerous" is the wrong word, and it's not like people who have a donut for breakfast, or even sugary cereal or pancakes or French toast with powdered sugar and syrup or cinnamon toast don't know they are consuming lots of sugar. People who try to pretend this is somehow a surprise or that we need special instructions on how to reduce sugar mystify me. It's basic common sense.
That was exactly my point, thank you. I think it's ridiculously overwrought to describe breakfast as "dangerous," although if someone does feel that the food they are choosing for breakfast is contributing to an unhealthy weight or other health issues, that is something they should probably address. But to single out sugar in a single meal without mentioning portion size, overall calorie consumption for the day, and intake of sufficient vitamins and fiber seems curiously short-sighted to me.
You can easily be overweight or have an unhealthy diet without ever eating breakfast or while having mostly savory breakfasts. You can maintain a healthy weight or have a healthy diet while eating sweet things as part of breakfast. If someone wants sweet oatmeal, toast with jam, or sugar in their coffee for breakfast and it's part of a diet that is meeting their nutritional needs and providing the right amount of energy, I'm not convinced it is at all dangerous.
(Full disclosure: I had a raspberry scone for breakfast so my enjoyment of the occasional sweet breakfast is a factor here).
yep I became overweight and I dont eat breakfast.never have even as a kid.I ate too much the rest of the day which was the reason i became fat.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Excuse me, but don't you taste when something is sweet? I find it absurd that one would have to scour labels for "hidden sugar". When something is sweet or too sweet, I just limit it--because calories.
I've seen people be surprised that condiments like BBQ sauce have so much sugar. I don't see how someone could miss it, but I do think some people don't "expect" sugar in a savory item so it's like their taste buds don't even recognize that it is there (or their taste buds recognize it, but it doesn't quite translate intellectually).
But then again it's been discussed so many times that most sauces are high calorie and should be limited. I do check the calorie content--not the sugar content on items.0 -
My, oh my, Big Sugar is watching you!
Well, my little post is something you derided, something you denied, and it's something you know nothing about. It's all about you.
I have failed at dieting. What's more, I am a success at the act of dieting -- only keeping the weight off is the problem. Diabetes mellitus is part of my life. Can you not get that sugar is the issue?
I have never had a sweet tooth in my adult life. I do have five doctors -- cardiologist, electrophysiologist, hematologist, neurologist, and GP (I've had a stroke about two years ago) --- and a perinatologist.
In my former life, I was a professor. I am not uneducated. All my doctors, except the perinatologist, I picked with ideal care.
The Sugar Film is the film I enjoyed last Sunday, but it pointed out some things that I have been discussing with the husband. We need to cut out the sugar that exists in prepared foods.
"How to Stop Eating Sugar" is a New York Times article. Not StopEatingSugar.com or BigSugarKills.com, but the New York Times.
So, it's not about what's concerning you so why are you scoffing at it? This post is for everyone, and take it for what's it worth.16 -
candylilacs wrote: »My, oh my, Big Sugar is watching you!
Well, my little post is something you derided, something you denied, and it's something you know nothing about. It's all about you.
I have failed at dieting. What's more, I am a success at the act of dieting -- only keeping the weight off is the problem. Diabetes mellitus is part of my life. Can you not get that sugar is the issue?
I have never had a sweet tooth in my adult life. I do have five doctors -- cardiologist, electrophysiologist, hematologist, neurologist, and GP (I've had a stroke about two years ago) --- and a perinatologist.
In my former life, I was a professor. I am not uneducated. All my doctors, except the perinatologist, I picked with ideal care.
The Sugar Film is the film I enjoyed last Sunday, but it pointed out some things that I have been discussing with the husband. We need to cut out the sugar that exists in prepared foods.
"How to Stop Eating Sugar" is a New York Times article. Not StopEatingSugar.com or BigSugarKills.com, but the New York Times.
So, it's not about what's concerning you so why are you scoffing at it? This post is for everyone, and take it for what's it worth.
It can sometimes be helpful, when evaluating what newspapers publish, to distinguish between more serious reporting and op-ed pieces. I wouldn't consider NYT op-ed pieces to be an especially reliable source of information about nutrition and that's what this is, an op-ed piece. From the author's bio: "David Leonhardt, a Pulitzer Prize-winning Op-Ed columnist for The Times, eats more sweets than he should but fewer than he once did."
Does it mean we should automatically dismiss it? No. But it can't exactly be categorized with the rest of their nutritional reporting (which is also sometimes hit-or-miss).
At the end of the day, we're being presented with an individual's opinion. Whether we want to take that opinion more seriously because the person is being paid by the NYT to give it to us is our choice.11
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