Lose fat/weight and gain muscle

AnvilHead

psuLemon wrote: »

utahjulia wrote: »

CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »

utahjulia wrote: »

Call me old school, but I eat six times a day to keep my metabolism humming. Fasting is counterproductive. Jmo.

your metabolism runs whether you eat 6 meals or 1 meal a day. my metabolism still runs and I fast. how many meals you eat has no effect on your metabolism.neither does breakfast

Citation please. Tia.

To add additional citations from some very well respected people in the community (Lyle McDonald and Martin Berkhan), who are some of the leading researchers regarding Intermittent fasting. Just to baseline though, your metabolism is all the chemical processes that occur within a living organism to maintain life. It is not that fragile that one would need to feed it constantly to live. Otherwise, mankind would have never made it.


https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html/

https://leangains.com/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked-major-update-nov-4th/

And Lyle's research review specifically addresses the silly 6 meals a day BS.

As to his conclusion:

And, in case you missed it the first time through: eating more frequently does NOT, I repeat DOES NOT, ‘stoke the metabolic fire’.

Okiludy

This may not be the place. Was there not research that the optimum spacing for a protein feeding was 3 to 5 hours? I also remember that it was around a 30g feeding. Note this was not to keep metabolism higher but to maximize MPS. Then again as pointed out IF doesn’t seem to negatively affect MPS to a great, if any degree.

psuLemon

Okiludy wrote: »

This may not be the place. Was there not research that the optimum spacing for a protein feeding was 3 to 5 hours? I also remember that it was around a 30g feeding. Note this was not to keep metabolism higher but to maximize MPS. Then again as pointed out IF doesn’t seem to negatively affect MPS to a great, if any degree.

I believe you are referring to: https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-018-0215-1

Okiludy

psuLemon wrote: »

Okiludy wrote: »

This may not be the place. Was there not research that the optimum spacing for a protein feeding was 3 to 5 hours? I also remember that it was around a 30g feeding. Note this was not to keep metabolism higher but to maximize MPS. Then again as pointed out IF doesn’t seem to negatively affect MPS to a great, if any degree.

I believe you are referring to: https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12970-018-0215-1

Thats the one. Thanks for finding it I was on phone earlier and was being a pain.

From that study:
"It is therefore a relatively simple and elegant solution to consume protein at a target intake of 0.4 g/kg/meal across a minimum of four meals in order to reach a minimum of 1.6 g/kg/day – if indeed the primary goal is to build muscle. "

Also from an interview by Jeff Nippard of Jorn Trommelen a researcher on MPS that having a protein feeding prior to training can put you in an anabolic state during training. I'll link the youtube of that interview below (the part of anabolic from feeding state during training at 12:00). If this is true training fasted might be ok but not optimal if your objective is muscle growth.

https://youtu.be/_otSunLL8AU