Really 949 exercise points for walking?

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  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,336 Member
    Record your weight on fitbit.com and connect fitbit.com to trendweight.com and start looking at your weight Trend as your weight.

    It will really help with a bunch of fluctuations that are absolutely natural and normal and it is also helpful to see when your trend is getting off track first sustained length of time as that can get you to adjust your eating and moving to compensate. As it should.
  • leahdp68
    leahdp68 Posts: 14 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Record your weight on fitbit.com and connect fitbit.com to trendweight.com and start looking at your weight Trend as your weight.

    It will really help with a bunch of fluctuations that are absolutely natural and normal and it is also helpful to see when your trend is getting off track first sustained length of time as that can get you to adjust your eating and moving to compensate. As it should.

    It appears I need a wifi scale, 2 types in particular, to use trendweight.com
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,336 Member
    edited March 2018
    leahdp68 wrote: »
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    Record your weight on fitbit.com and connect fitbit.com to trendweight.com and start looking at your weight Trend as your weight.

    It will really help with a bunch of fluctuations that are absolutely natural and normal and it is also helpful to see when your trend is getting off track first sustained length of time as that can get you to adjust your eating and moving to compensate. As it should.

    It appears I need a wifi scale, 2 types in particular, to use trendweight.com
    You don't.
    You connect your fitbit.com account to trendweight.com (by giving the appropriate permissions to the apps).
    You enter your weight in fitbit's web page or phone app using the weigh tile or https://www.fitbit.com/weight

    Trendweight automa-gically (or with a bit of a kick in the pants https://trendweight.com/settings/, very bottom of screen, "resync all settings") imports those weigh ins.
    (of note that you don't need to own a fitbit device to have a fitbit account or their phone app).
  • leahdp68
    leahdp68 Posts: 14 Member
    Thank you very much PAV8888 for your help. It is very much appreciated.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    leahdp68 wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    leahdp68 wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    leahdp68 wrote: »
    Thanks. I started in Jan and lost 20lbs fairly easy, plateued then lost 5 more and I am stalled again. I got the Fitbit in mid February. I am not supposed to count calories with Naturally Slim but track what you eat. I think I am analyzing everything because of the stall. I think because I am heavy my Fitbit thinks I am getting a really good workout when I am really just walking.

    If you're not supposed to be counting calories ... what's the point of tracking how many calories MFP and/or your FitBit think you should eat? And if you're not counting calories ... how do you know you would need to eat another 1500 calories to meet adjusted goal that MFP and your FitBit are telling you? And how would you know that your dinner isn't 1500 calories?

    I guess I don't understand what you're doing on a calorie-counting website if your approach is not to count calories. And even if you're only here to "track what you eat," why are you paying attention to the calories and worrying about the calories your FitBit and MFP are saying you should eat?

    I was doing it because it says to be mindful of what you eat and to do this by doing this by writing down what you eat not the calories but I like MFP to track my food. I can't help but notice when it is right there. And since I was stalled I was wondering why so I looked further into my calorie intake etc. Which brought upon my question. I am trying to find what works for me that was not highly restrictive like low carb. With naturally slim I noticed my calories are deficient but I am totally satisfied and not obsessing about what I can't have because nothing is off limits.

    OK. It just seems like you started one plan (Naturally Slim) and then basically broke one of its fundamental rules (don't count calories), and now you're trying to follow MFP, but you're resisting following it the way it's meant to be done (eat back your exercise calories), and you got a FitBit, but you don't want to believe what it's telling you about your calorie burns.

    I think you should give whatever you're going to do a fair chance to work the way it's meant to work. I'm not advocating for one approach over another. I just think if you're going to do X, do X, at least long enough to feel like you've given it a fair chance to see if it works for you.

    But all that said, if you really have stalled, your calories are not deficient. In your tracking, have you been weighing your food?

    I dont weigh but I measure, usually cups, tbsp etc. Or I scan the box from the ingredients or the actuall food like say a yogurt. Number of strawberries, size of apple, cups of rice etc. But like you said I am mixing 2 ways of eating and I will try to go back to Naturally slim and not count my calories. Just my water and use mfp if I want to make a choice of which food is a healthier choice and to track my weight.

    I understand this :). I am doing Precision Nutrition, which doesn't recommend counting calories. But I do it anyway while I am learning the other habits.
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    I routinely get 15K -17K daily with my fitbit, but never get that kind of calorie burn.
    Maybe it will get better with long term use. I have had a fitbit for 5 years.

    It depends on what you told MFP your activity level is. Also on height and weight and probably whether the Fitbit uses heart rate.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.

    It actually is not just the steps taken (or mileage). The adjustment it makes has more to do with overall activity throughout the entire day. It also takes into account your activity level setting in MFP. I keep mine at sedentary, but I am not sedentary. So my adjustments are larger to account for this on days I do a lot of steps. Someone else can probably explain this better :).
  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.

    But the exercise adjustment isn’t just from the 12000steps walked. It’s the total of how much the user burned, all day, minus what MFP thinks they would burn, based on stats and activity level.

    In a way, that makes it worse. If 3500 is sedentary, then the adjustment should be based on 12000 - 3500. Unless there are other activities not showing up as steps, I do think the adjustment as given is high.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.

    But the exercise adjustment isn’t just from the 12000steps walked. It’s the total of how much the user burned, all day, minus what MFP thinks they would burn, based on stats and activity level.

    In a way, that makes it worse. If 3500 is sedentary, then the adjustment should be based on 12000 - 3500. Unless there are other activities not showing up as steps, I do think the adjustment as given is high.

    It may not work for everyone I guess. But it does work for me. I eat according to what my fitbit tells me, and I am losing weight at the desired rate.
  • kam3190
    kam3190 Posts: 157 Member
    edited March 2018
    I am 5 ft 6 and 203lbs. I get an adjustment from sedentary of 1200 to 1500 calories a day. I get around 18000 steps a day. Fitbit has been giving me a tdee of about 3200 average. I've been losing 1 lb a week eating 2600 or so calories a day. This has been pretty steady over the last 2 months. So it was quite accurate for me and the high adjustments are normal for me.
  • spicybaer
    spicybaer Posts: 393 Member
    edited March 2018
    My calorie adjustment from my fitbit seems to be accurate. What gets me is that nobody has mentioned that stalls are part of the weight loss life. Are you measuring and track that against your weight loss, are you still losing inches even though you aren't losing weight? The scale is really only a small part of this process.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    Dnarules wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.

    But the exercise adjustment isn’t just from the 12000steps walked. It’s the total of how much the user burned, all day, minus what MFP thinks they would burn, based on stats and activity level.

    In a way, that makes it worse. If 3500 is sedentary, then the adjustment should be based on 12000 - 3500. Unless there are other activities not showing up as steps, I do think the adjustment as given is high.

    It may not work for everyone I guess. But it does work for me. I eat according to what my fitbit tells me, and I am losing weight at the desired rate.

    Sorry to quote myself, but I waited too long to edit. I will add that I have the older Fitbit One, and it doesn't not do heart rate. I actually have no experience with the ones that do HR as well.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    leahdp68 wrote: »
    HI I am new here unless you count 10+ yrs ago when I did Atkins. I recently got a fit bit and have it sync'd with MFP. I have MFP to loose 2 lbs a week and a sedentary lifestyle. I have a high bmi as to why the 2lbs a week. Today I walked 2 sets of half an hour each. Plus I get up every hour from 8 to 5 to get my 250 steps in plus whenever else I get up from my desk. so 11375 steps today, which is a lot for me. Anyhow this had added 958 calories to my goal today. Doesn't that seem excessive? I have read you should eat your exercise points but that means I need an almost 1500 calorie dinner which isn't going to happen. I do Naturally Slim so I eat till I am full and that will be way before 1500. Any thoughts if this is an excessive amount of exercise calories for just walking?

    thanks

    Leah

    You're set to sedentary...11K+ steps isn't sedentary, so you're getting an adjustment. I don't find it particularly excessive and I've found my FitBit to be fairly accurate. You're set to sedentary, but in reality you're walking over 5 miles per day and are probably somewhere between moderately active to active with those steps...thus the adjustment...it doesn't matter that it's not higher intensity exercise.

    If you're heavier, your calorie requirements are higher than someone lighter regardless of whether it's walking or more intense exercise.
  • ap1972
    ap1972 Posts: 214 Member
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.

    But the exercise adjustment isn’t just from the 12000steps walked. It’s the total of how much the user burned, all day, minus what MFP thinks they would burn, based on stats and activity level.

    In a way, that makes it worse. If 3500 is sedentary, then the adjustment should be based on 12000 - 3500. Unless there are other activities not showing up as steps, I do think the adjustment as given is high.

    Isn't that calculation only valid if you were walking that distance in isolation? Surely there is an adjustment to be made for the fact that you are getting up regularly and probably also standing still rather than being seated at times?

  • Tacklewasher
    Tacklewasher Posts: 7,122 Member
    ap1972 wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    I googled how far is 12000 steps.

    According to this article, it's ~ 6 miles

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/355633-calories-burned-in-12-000-steps/

    The formula for calories burned for walking is weight * miles * .3. So

    280 * 6 * .3 = ~500 calories.

    I'm going to say the fitbit calc is a bit high. In fact, this assumes an average stride length and I'm not sure if you would go 6 miles in the day.

    If I've made a mistake, someone can correct but ~950 does sound high to me.

    But the exercise adjustment isn’t just from the 12000steps walked. It’s the total of how much the user burned, all day, minus what MFP thinks they would burn, based on stats and activity level.

    In a way, that makes it worse. If 3500 is sedentary, then the adjustment should be based on 12000 - 3500. Unless there are other activities not showing up as steps, I do think the adjustment as given is high.

    Isn't that calculation only valid if you were walking that distance in isolation? Surely there is an adjustment to be made for the fact that you are getting up regularly and probably also standing still rather than being seated at times?

    I don't know what else to say. How much getting up and sitting down impacts it (I doubt very much) or the fact that it isn't a steady walk is unknown. I just am doubting the incremental 900 ish calories and would think it's ~ 1/2 that. But I doubt there is any real way to know for a single day.
  • leahdp68
    leahdp68 Posts: 14 Member
    spicybaer wrote: »
    My calorie adjustment from my fitbit seems to be accurate. What gets me is that nobody has mentioned that stalls are part of the weight loss life. Are you measuring and track that against your weight loss, are you still losing inches even though you aren't losing weight? The scale is really only a small part of this process.

    I have been thinking about this and I think it is time I start measuring my inches. I may not be exact in my portions but I am not off so much i should not be losing since i usually try to over estimate what I ate and I have a lot of exercise calories left every day. I do feel really comfortable in my clothes this week that I would not be surprised if I have lost inches. I am not going to track my calories anymore either and stick to the Naturally slim guidelines.
  • spiriteagle99
    spiriteagle99 Posts: 3,751 Member
    Like you, I have my activity level set to sedentary because I have days I exercise a lot and days I don't. I don't log the steps from my Garmin. I do log the miles I walk and run deliberately, as well as other exercise I do like calisthenics or bike. I am able to eat back all my calories. I lost weight and have been able to maintain that loss for over a year.
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