Keto diet and kids?
haalastar846
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Hi everyone! My husband and I have recently started using the keto diet after seeing his brothers success with it. The problem is he wants to take this keto diet to a super keto diet extreme and we have 3 kids that I don't think should be on this diet and definitely don't need it. So my question is am I right that the kids shouldn't be in this? I haven't done much reading up in this diet when kids are involved so I figured I'd ask here first.
Thanks for any info!! Hope you all have a great day!
Thanks for any info!! Hope you all have a great day!
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Your kids need to be on a well rounded diet, not the latest fad for weight loss.
Your duties as a parent should override your husband's diet zealotry.
Good luck!16 -
Why? For what purpose?1
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The thing I liked about keto when I tried it was that it was easy to make my dinner similar enough to my kids but still keto. I'd make them pasta and chicken and give myself roasted cauliflower with marinara and chicken, for example. I feed my kids a well-rounded diet, similar to these recommendations: http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/Dietary-Recommendations-for-Healthy-Children_UCM_303886_Article.jsp#.Ws4XG4jwY-c
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L1zardQueen wrote: »Why? For what purpose?
For what purpose of what? I'm not sure I understand the question0 -
haalastar846 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Why? For what purpose?
For what purpose of what? I'm not sure I understand the question
People do keto to lose weight or have blood glucose issues.
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CrystalLFit wrote: »Your kids need to be on a well rounded diet, not the latest fad for weight loss.
Your duties as a parent should override your husband's diet zealotry.
Good luck!
This is what I'm trying to explain to him. And I know what it's like being the kid of a dieting parent who isn't willing to be a little flexible.. it sucks. Which I also have told him. The man stubbornly thinks if he's this strict he's going to lose over 50lbs by September.3 -
This should be fun. Combining two hotly debated topics - extreme ketogenic diets and how people choose to feed their children.
In!
PS - I think kids need to be exposed to as many foods as possible so they learn to try new things and make healthy, adventurous choices for themselves. Starting them off restricting major staples like bread, pasta, rice, fruits, dairy - these are the go to things I use with my kids to ensure they are getting enough to eat so that I can persuade them to try a new vegetable, a new type of fish, etc.7 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »haalastar846 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Why? For what purpose?
For what purpose of what? I'm not sure I understand the question
People do keto to lose weight or have blood glucose issues.
Oh lose weight. He has over 50lbs he needs to lose(I can't remember the exact amount) and I have 50lbs to lose...but I'm not taking this diet to the extreme. I understand that the kids... especially toddlers... aren't going to eat everything the diet suggest nor should they be forced to use substitute things for sugar and such like he wants to use.0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »This should be fun. Combining two hotly debated topics - extreme ketogenic diets and how people choose to feed their children.
In!
PS - I think kids need to be exposed to as many foods as possible so they learn to try new things and make healthy, adventurous choices for themselves. Starting them off restricting major staples like bread, pasta, rice, fruits, dairy - these are the go to things I use with my kids to ensure they are getting enough to eat so that I can persuade them to try a new vegetable, a new type of fish, etc.
This! Are kids are 10, 2 and 1. They are for the most part very good eaters. Although the 2yr old is boycotting and green veggies right now lol0 -
OP, I would suggest your brother speak to the children's pediatrician before imposing ANY type of diet change in their lifestyle. Keto is a very limited diet for weight loss, that is only sometimes prescribed for people with diabetes or other health issues. Growing children need carbs and a balance of protein and fats.2
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OP, I would suggest your brother speak to the children's pediatrician before imposing ANY type of diet change in their lifestyle. Keto is a very limited diet for weight loss, that is only sometimes prescribed for people with diabetes or other health issues. Growing children need carbs and a balance of protein and fats.
I agree but it's my husband doing the imposing after both his brothers had success with the diet. Neither of his brothers kids are young or I've at home so neither had any info about the family aspect of it.
That being said doing I do keto but I'm not super strict with it. There are things I enjoy...like pasta and potatoes...that I'm willing to cut back on but not cut out completely like my husband wants to. He wants to get substitutes for everything for every meal...which is where I'm having the problem.0 -
Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Just because someone eats keto doesn't automatically mean they will lose weight or be healthy.
Keto can be good for people with certain medical conditions. Keto isn't the magical super way of eating that people make it out to be.
If you brother in law lost weight it was because he created a calorie deficit, not just because he ate keto.
I'd suggest talking to your kids doctors and tell them that your husband wants them to eat a keto diet.
I would not suggest it personally. I wouldn't want to expose my kids to the newest fad of the week. Instead I'd try to teach them about moderation and portion control. I'd teach them about how treats are okay but in moderation and I'd show them what a healthy well balanced diet is.
I wouldn't want them to believe the misinformation that runs rampantly around here.
It sounds like your husband might not truly understand the facts.5 -
100_PROOF_ wrote: »Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Just because someone eats keto doesn't automatically mean they will lose weight or be healthy.
Keto can be good for people with certain medical conditions. Keto isn't the magical super way of eating that people make it out to be.
If you brother in law lost weight it was because he created a calorie deficit, not just because he ate keto.
I'd suggest talking to your kids doctors and tell them that your husband wants them to eat a keto diet.
I would not suggest it personally. I wouldn't want to expose my kids to the newest fad of the week. Instead I'd try to teach them about moderation and portion control. I'd teach them about how treats are okay but in moderation and I'd show them what a healthy well balanced diet is.
I wouldn't want them to believe the misinformation that runs rampantly around here.
It sounds like your husband might not truly understand the facts.
I agree with all of this and I do intend to talk to their Dr at their next appointment in a few weeks (can't get in sooner or I would).0 -
I did Paleo (lower carbs, but not Keto) with my kids. My littlest ended up putting on some weight when she was an otherwise hard-gainer. I don't think I'd go to the extreme of keeping my kids on Keto, as it's not easy to do, and as they get older it's impossible to control when they are not with you. If my kids had a medical condition that was benefited by a Keto lifestyle, I'd consider it. But otherwise, I don't think it's worth the effort or expense.1
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Thank you everyone for your insight. It has been most helpful!0
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Honestly, I think you are opening a can of worms. When you start giving kids ideas about food by demonizing certain macros, this may backfire. I speak from experience. I have two children but the younger one would take everything I said literally. Just a thought.3
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haalastar846 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Just because someone eats keto doesn't automatically mean they will lose weight or be healthy.
Keto can be good for people with certain medical conditions. Keto isn't the magical super way of eating that people make it out to be.
If you brother in law lost weight it was because he created a calorie deficit, not just because he ate keto.
I'd suggest talking to your kids doctors and tell them that your husband wants them to eat a keto diet.
I would not suggest it personally. I wouldn't want to expose my kids to the newest fad of the week. Instead I'd try to teach them about moderation and portion control. I'd teach them about how treats are okay but in moderation and I'd show them what a healthy well balanced diet is.
I wouldn't want them to believe the misinformation that runs rampantly around here.
It sounds like your husband might not truly understand the facts.
I agree with all of this and I do intend to talk to their Dr at their next appointment in a few weeks (can't get in sooner or I would).
Good. You are doing the right thing here.
Maybe in the time being start printing out some of your own research so you can discuss it with him. You could prove to him that Fung and the like are quacks and are a joke amongst the fitness and healthy lifestyle communities. Maybe once he sees the hype for himself, maybe he'll understand your point of view.0 -
I know keto is being researched for therapeutic benefits in children with autism, but as a general rule, I wouldn't want to unnecessarily restrict a child's diet.
You may want to wait & see how successful your husband's family is with *maintenance* before jumping on the keto bandwagon
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L1zardQueen wrote: »Honestly, I think you are opening a can of worms. When you start giving kids ideas about food by demonizing certain macros, this may backfire. I speak from experience. I have two children but the younger one would take everything I said literally. Just a thought.
Agreed.
One time when my son was little he heard his father say something like" I don't need to eat that chicken, I'll just have a shake later!"
Well guess what! The very next day my son refused to eat his chicken and said he'd have a shake for lunch instead.
Kids learn from the examples their parents set. If the parents have an unhealthy relationship with food, the kids see that.
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100_PROOF_ wrote: »haalastar846 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Just because someone eats keto doesn't automatically mean they will lose weight or be healthy.
Keto can be good for people with certain medical conditions. Keto isn't the magical super way of eating that people make it out to be.
If you brother in law lost weight it was because he created a calorie deficit, not just because he ate keto.
I'd suggest talking to your kids doctors and tell them that your husband wants them to eat a keto diet.
I would not suggest it personally. I wouldn't want to expose my kids to the newest fad of the week. Instead I'd try to teach them about moderation and portion control. I'd teach them about how treats are okay but in moderation and I'd show them what a healthy well balanced diet is.
I wouldn't want them to believe the misinformation that runs rampantly around here.
It sounds like your husband might not truly understand the facts.
I agree with all of this and I do intend to talk to their Dr at their next appointment in a few weeks (can't get in sooner or I would).
Good. You are doing the right thing here.
Maybe in the time being start printing out some of your own research so you can discuss it with him. You could prove to him that Fung and the like are quacks and are a joke amongst the fitness and healthy lifestyle communities. Maybe once he sees the hype for himself, maybe he'll understand your point of view.
It's possible but he's a very stubborn man and once he gets it in his head he wants to do something there is little to change his mind0 -
I would not alter your children's diet in an extreme way without research and talking to their doctor.
http://www.aboutkidshealth.ca/En/ResourceCentres/Epilepsy/TreatmentofEpilepsy/DietaryTherapies/Pages/Ketogenic-Diet.aspx
https://childrensnational.org/choose-childrens/conditions-and-treatments/brain--nervous-system/ketogenic-diet
Your husband and you can try out any diet you want without it being a family project. My parents did some diets when I was a kid that we all had to suffer through so I am kind of against making the whole family change especially when you can lose weight eating any diet as long as the calories are right.
If you want to make one shared meal a day all keto and then feed the kids normally the rest of the day maybe that would be a compromise.1 -
haalastar846 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »haalastar846 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Just because someone eats keto doesn't automatically mean they will lose weight or be healthy.
Keto can be good for people with certain medical conditions. Keto isn't the magical super way of eating that people make it out to be.
If you brother in law lost weight it was because he created a calorie deficit, not just because he ate keto.
I'd suggest talking to your kids doctors and tell them that your husband wants them to eat a keto diet.
I would not suggest it personally. I wouldn't want to expose my kids to the newest fad of the week. Instead I'd try to teach them about moderation and portion control. I'd teach them about how treats are okay but in moderation and I'd show them what a healthy well balanced diet is.
I wouldn't want them to believe the misinformation that runs rampantly around here.
It sounds like your husband might not truly understand the facts.
I agree with all of this and I do intend to talk to their Dr at their next appointment in a few weeks (can't get in sooner or I would).
Good. You are doing the right thing here.
Maybe in the time being start printing out some of your own research so you can discuss it with him. You could prove to him that Fung and the like are quacks and are a joke amongst the fitness and healthy lifestyle communities. Maybe once he sees the hype for himself, maybe he'll understand your point of view.
It's possible but he's a very stubborn man and once he gets it in his head he wants to do something there is little to change his mind
I know people like that. I'm sorry you have to go through this. Just know you are doing the right thing by encouraging a healthy well balanced diet for your kids. Fight for what you believe in and prove him wrong.0 -
What's your husband motivation for wanting the kids to adhere to the same diet as you guys? Is it for simplicity - not having to make multiple meals/food items? Is it because he feels he might be tempted if kids were eating butter noodles while you guys are eating mashed cauliflower? Does he think they need to lose weight? Does he think there will be health benefits for the kids, ie has he succumbed to the "carbs are the debil OMG NO!!!!" mentality that many diet zealots (regardless of diet choice) fall victim to?0
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I would not alter your children's diet in an extreme way without research and talking to their doctor.
http://www.aboutkidshealth.ca/En/ResourceCentres/Epilepsy/TreatmentofEpilepsy/DietaryTherapies/Pages/Ketogenic-Diet.aspx
https://childrensnational.org/choose-childrens/conditions-and-treatments/brain--nervous-system/ketogenic-diet
Your husband and you can try out any diet you want without it being a family project. My parents did some diets when I was a kid that we all had to suffer through so I am kind of against making the whole family change especially when you can lose weight eating any diet as long as the calories are right.
If you want to make one shared meal a day all keto and then feed the kids normally the rest of the day maybe that would be a compromise.
Having had to suffer through my parents on diets is exactly why I don't want a severally strict diet. It sucked.0 -
100_PROOF_ wrote: »haalastar846 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »haalastar846 wrote: »100_PROOF_ wrote: »Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Just because someone eats keto doesn't automatically mean they will lose weight or be healthy.
Keto can be good for people with certain medical conditions. Keto isn't the magical super way of eating that people make it out to be.
If you brother in law lost weight it was because he created a calorie deficit, not just because he ate keto.
I'd suggest talking to your kids doctors and tell them that your husband wants them to eat a keto diet.
I would not suggest it personally. I wouldn't want to expose my kids to the newest fad of the week. Instead I'd try to teach them about moderation and portion control. I'd teach them about how treats are okay but in moderation and I'd show them what a healthy well balanced diet is.
I wouldn't want them to believe the misinformation that runs rampantly around here.
It sounds like your husband might not truly understand the facts.
I agree with all of this and I do intend to talk to their Dr at their next appointment in a few weeks (can't get in sooner or I would).
Good. You are doing the right thing here.
Maybe in the time being start printing out some of your own research so you can discuss it with him. You could prove to him that Fung and the like are quacks and are a joke amongst the fitness and healthy lifestyle communities. Maybe once he sees the hype for himself, maybe he'll understand your point of view.
It's possible but he's a very stubborn man and once he gets it in his head he wants to do something there is little to change his mind
I know people like that. I'm sorry you have to go through this. Just know you are doing the right thing by encouraging a healthy well balanced diet for your kids. Fight for what you believe in and prove him wrong.
Thank you for your support0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »What's your husband motivation for wanting the kids to adhere to the same diet as you guys? Is it for simplicity - not having to make multiple meals/food items? Is it because he feels he might be tempted if kids were eating butter noodles while you guys are eating mashed cauliflower? Does he think they need to lose weight? Does he think there will be health benefits for the kids, ie has he succumbed to the "carbs are the debil OMG NO!!!!" mentality that many diet zealots (regardless of diet choice) fall victim to?
I honestly have no idea. Other than when I told him I wasn't going to be as strict and he replied with well thanks for the support is all I have as to the why.1
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