Funny things actually-fit people say
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I'm confused about why this is funny... The body becomes incredibly efficient at doing the same thing every day, so if she were to continue the same workout routine every day and every week, her body would eventually become "used" to it and would not continue to show results.
I re-read the post and it seems like you read it as she had to switch the DAYS around to confuse the body, but I read it as she has to switch the ROUTINE around to "confuse the body", which is essentially true.
So yes, I suppose it's dumb if she thinks the day she does it on makes a difference, but if she's literally talking about switching up routine, she is correct.
She definitely meant the day of the week specifically haha. She specified in her OP that she usually did leg day on Saturdays, but was doing it today (this was yesterday, Thursday) in order to confuse her body. Then I specifically asked if she really thought her body knew which day of the week she worked a particular body part, and she said, in so many words, "yes" lol
I agree it can be beneficial for various reasons to switch up the exercises that make up your routine from time to time, but I'm pretty positive that's not all that she meant0 -
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fitoverfortymom wrote: »@CJ_Holmes I think it can be used either way when using the button. "Woo" as a concept (not the button) is the #fakenews of the weight loss and fitness world. I mean, what's NOT confusing about that?
To be even more confusing, it used to mean both, but they updated the meaning to just Woo - broscience. But unless you're keeping up with the MFP suggestions and announcements (and how many of us do, really?) you'll most likely see it explained with the original meaning if you do a search. So completely ambiguous as you say, unless you get 17 woos within 2 minutes of posting a comment, in which case I would safely assume it's not positive.
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I'm confused about why this is funny... The body becomes incredibly efficient at doing the same thing every day, so if she were to continue the same workout routine every day and every week, her body would eventually become "used" to it and would not continue to show results.
I re-read the post and it seems like you read it as she had to switch the DAYS around to confuse the body, but I read it as she has to switch the ROUTINE around to "confuse the body", which is essentially true.
So yes, I suppose it's dumb if she thinks the day she does it on makes a difference, but if she's literally talking about switching up routine, she is correct.
No, it's not true. The old Weider "muscle confusion" theory died somewhere around the '70s.
If you're doing a well-designed routine, you're not doing the "same routine" every day and every week. It will have progression, periodization and strategic deloads built into it. Once you move beyond a beginner routine into an intermediate program, it can be run pretty much indefinitely - the only reason to change the routine is to avoid boredom/burnout, or if you want to run specialization/peaking cycles. But your body does not become "used" to it and stop adapting if you have proper progression/periodization parameters built in.
Yeah, if you're bench pressing 3x8 at 100 pounds today and still bench pressing 3x8 at 100 pounds a year from now, you're doing it wrong. But if you're benching 3x8 at 100 now and 3x8 at 225 a year from now, you can be sure that your body hasn't "gotten used to it" and stopped progressing.15 -
I had a trainer who could not figure out why I had not gained any muscle or increased my metabolism over an 8-week period of heavy lifting and eating in a deficit (she knew I was on Weight Watchers at the time). I had lost 8 pounds, and supposedly 7 of them were fat. CAVEAT - this was according to the hand-held BIA, and we know how accurate those are anyway. I think the gym cheaped out rather than having hydrostatic weighing or at least calipers available.0
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"you really shouldn't eat dinner if you're trying to lose weight" - which is silly, I've lost large amounts of weight with dinner as my main meal of the day...
also, from one of my classmates at uni: "you're eating a banana for your snack? no wonder you're not losing fast if you eat sugar and carbs" (I'd often be too busy to grab proper lunch while at uni, so I'd bring a banana or some nuts, it was convenient)4 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »It is not necessarily a requirement to understand something in order to accomplish it. Being fit requires discipline more than it requires an understanding of physiology.
Agreed. Some people manage to be quite fit, despite their lack of knowledge. That said, imagine if they had the knowledge how much further ahead they could be!4 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »It is not necessarily a requirement to understand something in order to accomplish it. Being fit requires discipline more than it requires an understanding of physiology.
Agreed. Some people manage to be quite fit, despite their lack of knowledge. That said, imagine if they had the knowledge how much further ahead they could be!
Along the same lines, there are also those who won the genetic lottery and started off miles ahead of other people in the first place. Admittedly, this is most outwardly manifested in the physique world. Not saying Joe/Jane Average can't obtain great results, but they're behind the 8-ball compared to Joe/Jane Genetic Wonder.5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I posted this in another thread yesterday. The manager of the Anytime Fitness I use had a female
in a side room, playing a VR video game, to get her heart rate up into the "fat burning zone."
I wish it worked like that! I’d be at goal just from reading my work emails lol3 -
Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I saw a personal trainer last year to get some advice on recomp (and that's it) and she tried to talk me into purchasing a personalized macro and meal plan from them too. Their whole big thing was you should eat 6 times a day at the same time every day so your body can "rev up your metabolism" because it knows when to expect food and will prepare for it. So much woo it was hard for me to politely decline.
I've also read and been told that it's more conducive to weight loss if you eat several mini meals throughout the day as opposed to one or 2 large ones. Supposedly it helps the metabolism by keeping the digestive system going constantly the entire day. But I have no scientific proof.10 -
Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I saw a personal trainer last year to get some advice on recomp (and that's it) and she tried to talk me into purchasing a personalized macro and meal plan from them too. Their whole big thing was you should eat 6 times a day at the same time every day so your body can "rev up your metabolism" because it knows when to expect food and will prepare for it. So much woo it was hard for me to politely decline.
I've also read and been told that it's more conducive to weight loss if you eat several mini meals throughout the day as opposed to one or 2 large ones. Supposedly it helps the metabolism by keeping the digestive system going constantly the entire day. But I have no scientific proof.
Meal timing is irrelevant for weight loss, given equivalent calories. Your metabolism and digestive system work 24 hours a day.
If you drive your car on a 400 mile trip that requires a full tank of gas, it doesn't matter if you start out with a full tank and drive all the way through, or start off with a quarter tank and stop 3 more times to refill a quarter tank each time. Except that the latter would be an unnecessary waste of time and effort, and would be making things more complicated than they need to be.
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I have a coworker who changes diet religions about once a month. She reads the diet books like some people read mysteries and she gets sucked into every one. She is in reasonably good shape by US standards and she thinks she owes that to what she has been doing for the last 2 or 3 weeks; It's like she doesn't remember she was extolling the virtues of completely different diet philosophy just weeks earlier. And this has been going on for a few years.3
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A friend of a friend is a successful personal trainer and has a ridiculously fit body. She is a proponent of reverse dieting. Unfortunately though, the way she promotes this is mostly telling overweight middle aged women that they should/could eat 2000-2500 calories per day. Period.
So they all feel freer to eat more calories, even though they are not professionals and have no clue how to actually do the process like she does it, and their exercise is Zumba or a little treadmill time. Of course they gain even more weight, and then sign up for her extremely expensive fitness training. Then they flip out when she suggests eating plans that are quite complex and strict.4 -
seltzermint555 wrote: »A friend of a friend is a successful personal trainer and has a ridiculously fit body. She is a proponent of reverse dieting. Unfortunately though, the way she promotes this is mostly telling overweight middle aged women that they should/could eat 2000-2500 calories per day. Period.
So they all feel freer to eat more calories, even though they are not professionals and have no clue how to actually do the process like she does it, and their exercise is Zumba or a little treadmill time. Of course they gain even more weight, and then sign up for her extremely expensive fitness training. Then they flip out when she suggests eating plans that are quite complex and strict.
I eat that amount and I'm in my sixties.
It's not outside the norm. The problem is most of those ladies likely don't actually keep track of their calories. The difference is that I log all food and use a food scale for 90% of my home-prepared meals.10 -
cmriverside wrote: »seltzermint555 wrote: »A friend of a friend is a successful personal trainer and has a ridiculously fit body. She is a proponent of reverse dieting. Unfortunately though, the way she promotes this is mostly telling overweight middle aged women that they should/could eat 2000-2500 calories per day. Period.
So they all feel freer to eat more calories, even though they are not professionals and have no clue how to actually do the process like she does it, and their exercise is Zumba or a little treadmill time. Of course they gain even more weight, and then sign up for her extremely expensive fitness training. Then they flip out when she suggests eating plans that are quite complex and strict.
I eat that amount and I'm in my sixties.
It's not outside the norm. The problem is most of those ladies likely don't actually keep track of their calories. The difference is that I log all food and use a food scale for 90% of my home-prepared meals.
Meh, maybe my post IS "woo". But I think these are women around 40-50 who are only somewhat overweight and not very active, and they're generally eating WAY under 2000 and this trainer gal (who is in her late 20s and spends her life literally working out) kind of misleads them into thinking they're just not eating enough. And they gain weight.9 -
everytime some jacked dude (and yeah, it's almost always a dude) on here insists that EVERYONE should be eating CLEAN or else their body will be riddled with TOXINZ and they'll always be FAT, i roll my eyes so hard i can watch the neurons in my frontal lobe die off.
Those aren't neurons, those are the TOXINZ. Eat clean and start every day with a shot of apple cider vinegar and you won't see them anymore.12 -
I read a thing about supplements that could probably be applied to any kind of weird fitness advice fit people give. It said that people who take supplements are actually healthier than people who don't. But it's only because supplement takers are often the kind of people who make overall more conscious decisions about what they are consuming and doing in their daily lives than most. Even if the supplements do zilch. Maybe even a placebo effect thing. I'm thinking you can apply that to any weird advice. Perhaps switching up her workout routine gives her the idea that she's burning more fat, but it's the idea alone keeps her going day after day and she's getting results even though it's definitely not due to her routine, but the simple fact that she's busting *kitten* all the time.8
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I'm confused about why this is funny... The body becomes incredibly efficient at doing the same thing every day, so if she were to continue the same workout routine every day and every week, her body would eventually become "used" to it and would not continue to show results.
I re-read the post and it seems like you read it as she had to switch the DAYS around to confuse the body, but I read it as she has to switch the ROUTINE around to "confuse the body", which is essentially true.
So yes, I suppose it's dumb if she thinks the day she does it on makes a difference, but if she's literally talking about switching up routine, she is correct.
"Getting used to workouts", "need to switch it up", "confuse the body" are all meaningless broscience buzzwords.
Your body does not need or do any of this.
The only way you will stop losing weight doing the same workout is if you do not adjust your calorie limit to still have a deficit once you reach maintenance levels.
That's not at all the same thing bros mean when they talk about this.
It's like they think the body has miniature brains all over it who think about the exercise (rather than just burning the energy), and it's totally pseudoscientific and woo.14 -
Bry_Fitness70 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I posted this in another thread yesterday. The manager of the Anytime Fitness I use had a female
in a side room, playing a VR video game, to get her heart rate up into the "fat burning zone."
Maybe an effective PT technique would be to sneak up behind your clients while they are working out and blast an air horn by their heads, that would spike their HR and burn a ton of extra calories!
And possibly cause them to drop a load in their underpants too!
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RMaxwell90 wrote: »I find the can't eat too late claim hilarious.
It always makes me think of Gremlins.
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I didn't know what "Woo" was until reading this thread. I thought that button was "Whoo Hoo!" or something similar. I apologize to anyone I have insulted in the past...
I think a lot of people must think this. I noticed there is a post in the success picture thread of a lady whos lost 300lbs and it gets woo'd! Ain't nothin woo about it.4 -
I had another one of those conversations today that started with a neighbor asking if I had lost weight (a little over 60 pounds, in maintenance over a month; I see this person 2 or 3 times a week) and asking how I did it, then critiquing what is wrong with eating whatever I want instead of cutting out certain foods that are diet killers (yes, bananas was on the list). I guess I have to put the weight back on and try again...
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seltzermint555 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »seltzermint555 wrote: »A friend of a friend is a successful personal trainer and has a ridiculously fit body. She is a proponent of reverse dieting. Unfortunately though, the way she promotes this is mostly telling overweight middle aged women that they should/could eat 2000-2500 calories per day. Period.
So they all feel freer to eat more calories, even though they are not professionals and have no clue how to actually do the process like she does it, and their exercise is Zumba or a little treadmill time. Of course they gain even more weight, and then sign up for her extremely expensive fitness training. Then they flip out when she suggests eating plans that are quite complex and strict.
I eat that amount and I'm in my sixties.
It's not outside the norm. The problem is most of those ladies likely don't actually keep track of their calories. The difference is that I log all food and use a food scale for 90% of my home-prepared meals.
Meh, maybe my post IS "woo". But I think these are women around 40-50 who are only somewhat overweight and not very active, and they're generally eating WAY under 2000 and this trainer gal (who is in her late 20s and spends her life literally working out) kind of misleads them into thinking they're just not eating enough. And they gain weight.
Don't worry about getting "woo"d. This originally had two meanings when rolled out and many people still think it means "Woo hoo!"2 -
Bodybuilders & trainers claiming that dumbbell lat pullovers will "expand the ribcage/make your chest/ribcage bigger"...I am not aware of any exercises that can alter someone's skeletal frame; this exercise does however work the serratus anterior.
Another stupid bro/bodybuilder one: "fish thins the skin...". Marc Lobliner did a hilarious video on this on youtube; yes changing a diet of steak/beef to low-no fat fish will definitely contribute to lowering kcals for a deficit (fatloss), but fish does not inherently have some magical physical properties that thin a person's skin (lol).4 -
Keto_Vampire wrote: »Bodybuilders & trainers claiming that dumbbell lat pullovers will "expand the ribcage/make your chest/ribcage bigger"...I am not aware of any exercises that can alter someone's skeletal frame; this exercise does however work the serratus anterior.
Another stupid bro/bodybuilder one: "fish thins the skin...". Marc Lobliner did a hilarious video on this on youtube; yes changing a diet of steak/beef to low-no fat fish will definitely contribute to lowering kcals for a deficit (fatloss), but fish does not inherently have some magical physical properties that thin a person's skin (lol).
I don't know; a lot of people are thin skinned about their bro-science beliefs...
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CarvedTones wrote: »I had another one of those conversations today that started with a neighbor asking if I had lost weight (a little over 60 pounds, in maintenance over a month; I see this person 2 or 3 times a week) and asking how I did it, then critiquing what is wrong with eating whatever I want instead of cutting out certain foods that are diet killers (yes, bananas was on the list). I guess I have to put the weight back on and try again...
Sounds like someone I know who claimed portion control, WW, and calorie counting didn't work for her, got gastric bypass, still lost slowly, then told me she was just fed up with the process. And is now selling the protein shakes she claims helped her lose weight and everyone must use to get in shape.2
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