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amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.3 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs3 -
Do you do any type of resistance training?
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amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...2 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...
No it really wasn't the scale went up by about 6lb but I actually put on 3lb took me a month to get back to pre Easter weight3 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Do you do any type of resistance training?
I'm doing T25 ATM then plan on doing insanity after my sister's birthday in June but usually I follow the 30 days hasfit calendar online which changes every month and has cardio strength training weights etc. Why do you ask0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Do you do any type of resistance training?
I'm doing T25 ATM then plan on doing insanity after my sister's birthday in June but usually I follow the 30 days hasfit calendar online which changes every month and has cardio strength training weights etc. Why do you ask
Low muscle % can make you burn less than the averages for weight and height.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...
No it really wasn't the scale went up by about 6lb but I actually put on 3lb took me a month to get back to pre Easter weight
But you said you put on 3lbs not 6lbs? I'm confused...
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amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...
No it really wasn't the scale went up by about 6lb but I actually put on 3lb took me a month to get back to pre Easter weight
But you said you put on 3lbs not 6lbs? I'm confused...
The scale said I put on 6lb but overall I only put on 3lb of fat half of it was water weight4 -
I know you don’t want people bringing up your other threads but your thought process in creating these overanalytical, majoring in the minors, unrealistic expectations, looking for one precise number to eat that will provide you the exact, consistent rate of loss you desire shows a pattern of red flag behavior about weight loss.
You really need to understand and learn to accept that CICO is a directionally correct general number and no matter how hard you try or how much analysis you put into this, your weight is not something that is always going to respond immediately, directly and predictably from your actions.
Continuing to fixate on the minutiae, especially when striving for results that are not aligned with your overall situation, is going to continue to cause you stress and anxiety. You are young and you really need to figure out how to manage the parts that you can control and understand that there will always be variables and anomalies outside of your control - but that for the long term you are seeing the scale moving in the right direction.
Good luck.36 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...
No it really wasn't the scale went up by about 6lb but I actually put on 3lb took me a month to get back to pre Easter weight
But you said you put on 3lbs not 6lbs? I'm confused...
The scale said I put on 6lb but overall I only put on 3lb of fat half of it was water weight
But how do you know that??
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amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...
No it really wasn't the scale went up by about 6lb but I actually put on 3lb took me a month to get back to pre Easter weight
But you said you put on 3lbs not 6lbs? I'm confused...
The scale said I put on 6lb but overall I only put on 3lb of fat half of it was water weight
But how do you know that??
From Libra most of it disappeared quickly (water weight) then my trend went up by a total of 3lb but it doesn't matter now I only received commented on here to let the person who suggested changing my height know that I did it and it made no difference as I said further up I'm much happier now I have seen my total monthly losses and now I know my Fitbit is out by 270 per day so it won't bother me as much now I know.4 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
3lbs will just be water weight...
No it really wasn't the scale went up by about 6lb but I actually put on 3lb took me a month to get back to pre Easter weight
But you said you put on 3lbs not 6lbs? I'm confused...
The scale said I put on 6lb but overall I only put on 3lb of fat half of it was water weight
But how do you know that??
From Libra most of it disappeared quickly (water weight) then my trend went up by a total of 3lb but it doesn't matter now I only received commented on here to let the person who suggested changing my height know that I did it and it made no difference as I said further up I'm much happier now I have seen my total monthly losses and now I know my Fitbit is out by 270 per day so it won't bother me as much now I know.
I primarily commented about height adjustments because of the poster I quoted. It's disingenuous to make sweeping comments about fitness trackers, and just flat out annoying. Many, many people find them accurate and some have found that accuracy by making the adjustments I suggested.
That being said, it doesn't mean that fitness trackers will be accurate for everyone even with minor adjustments. Just like when trying to figure out one's TDEE, calculators are providing estimates just as fitness trackers are providing estimates through their calculations. Those estimates are going to be more accurate for some than others for a lot of reasons (I think one big reason that a lot of people discount is incidental movement).
As another poster mentioned, I think you have been focusing your energy on the wrong things. It's good to see that you may be moving forward. Even if you know your fitness tracker is off by "x" number of calories, that's provided data for you to use. Just like those who don't use fitness trackers, a person needs to adjust their calories based on their real life results and after giving themselves enough time to obtain reliable data to make adjustments.9 -
WinoGelato wrote: »I know you don’t want people bringing up your other threads but your thought process in creating these overanalytical, majoring in the minors, unrealistic expectations, looking for one precise number to eat that will provide you the exact, consistent rate of loss you desire shows a pattern of red flag behavior about weight loss.
You really need to understand and learn to accept that CICO is a directionally correct general number and no matter how hard you try or how much analysis you put into this, your weight is not something that is always going to respond immediately, directly and predictably from your actions.
Continuing to fixate on the minutiae, especially when striving for results that are not aligned with your overall situation, is going to continue to cause you stress and anxiety. You are young and you really need to figure out how to manage the parts that you can control and understand that there will always be variables and anomalies outside of your control - but that for the long term you are seeing the scale moving in the right direction.
Good luck.amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
If you've never had an upward trend that probably means that your deficit continues to be quite large.
As someone who has looked at their Fitbit data extremely carefully I caution you that even the percentage error of Fitbit vis a vis your food logging (because your food logging has as much to do with your results as your Fitbit expenditure estimate) may be fairly stable when looked at on a year to year basis.
But if you look at it even on a month to month basis there can exist considerable variation. And your actual Caloric amount will change even more than your percentage since TDEE also varies over time.
The last three years my yearly Fitbit error was -3.14%, -4.53% and -3.63%
The last -3.63% "hides" a monthly range of -10.19% to +3.30%
You really do need to internalise what @WinoGelato wrote above.8 -
WinoGelato wrote: »I know you don’t want people bringing up your other threads but your thought process in creating these overanalytical, majoring in the minors, unrealistic expectations, looking for one precise number to eat that will provide you the exact, consistent rate of loss you desire shows a pattern of red flag behavior about weight loss.
You really need to understand and learn to accept that CICO is a directionally correct general number and no matter how hard you try or how much analysis you put into this, your weight is not something that is always going to respond immediately, directly and predictably from your actions.
Continuing to fixate on the minutiae, especially when striving for results that are not aligned with your overall situation, is going to continue to cause you stress and anxiety. You are young and you really need to figure out how to manage the parts that you can control and understand that there will always be variables and anomalies outside of your control - but that for the long term you are seeing the scale moving in the right direction.
Good luck.amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
If you've never had an upward trend that probably means that your deficit continues to be quite large.
As someone who has looked at their Fitbit data extremely carefully I caution you that even the percentage error of Fitbit vis a vis your food logging (because your food logging has as much to do with your results as your Fitbit expenditure estimate) may be fairly stable when looked at on a year to year basis.
But if you look at it even on a month to month basis there can exist considerable variation. And your actual Caloric amount will change even more than your percentage since TDEE also varies over time.
The last three years my yearly Fitbit error was -3.14%, -4.53% and -3.63%
The last -3.63% "hides" a monthly range of -10.19% to +3.30%
You really do need to internalise what @WinoGelato wrote above.
There have been days where it's gone up but not long enough to cause a upward trend I've lost 22lbs this year that's average 1.2lb a week I don't think that's too big a deficit got myself weighed at the chemist today and I'm the same as I was this time last year just 1lb of a "healthy" BMI so I'm very happy today2 -
WinoGelato wrote: »I know you don’t want people bringing up your other threads but your thought process in creating these overanalytical, majoring in the minors, unrealistic expectations, looking for one precise number to eat that will provide you the exact, consistent rate of loss you desire shows a pattern of red flag behavior about weight loss.
You really need to understand and learn to accept that CICO is a directionally correct general number and no matter how hard you try or how much analysis you put into this, your weight is not something that is always going to respond immediately, directly and predictably from your actions.
Continuing to fixate on the minutiae, especially when striving for results that are not aligned with your overall situation, is going to continue to cause you stress and anxiety. You are young and you really need to figure out how to manage the parts that you can control and understand that there will always be variables and anomalies outside of your control - but that for the long term you are seeing the scale moving in the right direction.
Good luck.amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
If you've never had an upward trend that probably means that your deficit continues to be quite large.
As someone who has looked at their Fitbit data extremely carefully I caution you that even the percentage error of Fitbit vis a vis your food logging (because your food logging has as much to do with your results as your Fitbit expenditure estimate) may be fairly stable when looked at on a year to year basis.
But if you look at it even on a month to month basis there can exist considerable variation. And your actual Caloric amount will change even more than your percentage since TDEE also varies over time.
The last three years my yearly Fitbit error was -3.14%, -4.53% and -3.63%
The last -3.63% "hides" a monthly range of -10.19% to +3.30%
You really do need to internalise what @WinoGelato wrote above.
There have been days where it's gone up but not long enough to cause a upward trend I've lost 22lbs this year that's average 1.2lb a week I don't think that's too big a deficit got myself weighed at the chemist today and I'm the same as I was this time last year just 1lb of a "healthy" BMI so I'm very happy today
BMI is just a tool, useless in most respects, IMHO. The real question is, how do you feel? Do you feel you are at a weight you can maintain? How is your health?0 -
psychod787 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »I know you don’t want people bringing up your other threads but your thought process in creating these overanalytical, majoring in the minors, unrealistic expectations, looking for one precise number to eat that will provide you the exact, consistent rate of loss you desire shows a pattern of red flag behavior about weight loss.
You really need to understand and learn to accept that CICO is a directionally correct general number and no matter how hard you try or how much analysis you put into this, your weight is not something that is always going to respond immediately, directly and predictably from your actions.
Continuing to fixate on the minutiae, especially when striving for results that are not aligned with your overall situation, is going to continue to cause you stress and anxiety. You are young and you really need to figure out how to manage the parts that you can control and understand that there will always be variables and anomalies outside of your control - but that for the long term you are seeing the scale moving in the right direction.
Good luck.amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »For women in particular, it's best to assess your weight on similar days of your cycle. A 2 week trend can be pretty misleading. I usually weigh 2 or so pounds more if I weight myself on the first day of my period then 2 weeks later (which is around ovulation for me). My month to month loss is pretty consistent.
Fitbit usually over-estimates for me, especially the heart rate kind. The one with a heart rate monitor gives me really inflated calories because my resting heart rate is low at night but it shoots up during the day due to coffee and such.
I weigh every day and use a weight trending app
I do too, and my trend looks as if it's creeping up ovulation and upward. I like to look at my monthly trend.
I've not had any upward trend except Easter bank holiday when I went away and didn't log for 4 days and ate what I want put on 3lbs
If you've never had an upward trend that probably means that your deficit continues to be quite large.
As someone who has looked at their Fitbit data extremely carefully I caution you that even the percentage error of Fitbit vis a vis your food logging (because your food logging has as much to do with your results as your Fitbit expenditure estimate) may be fairly stable when looked at on a year to year basis.
But if you look at it even on a month to month basis there can exist considerable variation. And your actual Caloric amount will change even more than your percentage since TDEE also varies over time.
The last three years my yearly Fitbit error was -3.14%, -4.53% and -3.63%
The last -3.63% "hides" a monthly range of -10.19% to +3.30%
You really do need to internalise what @WinoGelato wrote above.
There have been days where it's gone up but not long enough to cause a upward trend I've lost 22lbs this year that's average 1.2lb a week I don't think that's too big a deficit got myself weighed at the chemist today and I'm the same as I was this time last year just 1lb of a "healthy" BMI so I'm very happy today
BMI is just a tool, useless in most respects, IMHO. The real question is, how do you feel? Do you feel you are at a weight you can maintain? How is your health?
I agree but it's not just that I'm happy about I'm back to where I was I feel great still got 26lbs I want to lose so I'm not looking at maintaining just yet my health is great1 -
You can take it as a given that I am using BMI to approximate levels of fat reserves. So the random you who wants to remind me that BMI does not fairly represent you, please adjust the numbers in your mind so that they are more appropriate for you! Thank you!
For anyone below, say a BMI 28 level of fat, 1.2lbs a week is actually quite substantial unless their TDEE is in the 3000 Cal a day + range.
Weighing yourself at the chemist introduces a whole slew of variables, unless you make it to the chemist naked after hitting the washroom and before eating or drinking every morning at about the same time and you can also guarantee that the chemist's scales are calibrated/reset the same every day...
OVER TIME YOU WILL STILL SEE YOUR TREND.
But not, if you get upset at "set-backs" that may well last weeks as your weight reduces, especially with the uncertainties in your measurements. Hence the reference to @WinoGelato 's post above!
You may also want to read Aaron's post about the car with the two tanks and the different fuels! It isn't that bad of an analogy!
Take care.4 -
You can take it as a given that I am using BMI to approximate levels of fat reserves. So the random you who wants to remind me that BMI does not fairly represent you, please adjust the numbers in your mind so that they are more appropriate for you! Thank you!
For anyone below, say a BMI 28 level of fat, 1.2lbs a week is actually quite substantial unless their TDEE is in the 3000 Cal a day + range.
Weighing yourself at the chemist introduces a whole slew of variables, unless you make it to the chemist naked after hitting the washroom and before eating or drinking every morning at about the same time and you can also guarantee that the chemist's scales are calibrated/reset the same every day...
OVER TIME YOU WILL STILL SEE YOUR TREND.
But not, if you get upset at "set-backs" that may well last weeks as your weight reduces, especially with the uncertainties in your measurements. Hence the reference to @WinoGelato 's post above!
You may also want to read Aaron's post about the car with the two tanks and the different fuels! It isn't that bad of an analogy!
Take care.
I only weigh myself once a month at the chemist and I always go before eating/drinking anything in the same clothes. My BMI is 25.1 Fitbit says my average calories burned are between 2300-2500 depending on the day3 -
The problem with only weighing yourself once a month is that a single anomalous reading (water retention from salt or a workout, a full bowel, your body going crazy and just having a ‘heavy’ day) can throw out all your ideas of how much progress you’ve made.
Say one month you happen to be slightly dehydrated when you weigh yourself, and so the scale reads a pound lighter than it should. Then the next month your menstrual cycle is running slightly short and you’ve put on three pounds of water preparation in preparation for TOM. You might have lost four pounds between those readings, but you would think you were maintaining!
I weigh daily for that reason, but many people seem perfectly happy with weekly.15
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