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  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,947 Member Member Posts: 1,947 Member
    nexangelus wrote: »
    Started slowly cutting. Having a hard time balancing muscle and strength loss. Have to find a slow balance. Is there a way to have both? SCIENCE! LOL!

    If you really are cutting slowly then neither will happen substantially...in my experience...as I have said before my strength has increased or stayed the same after 2 to 3 years on a slow cut...I am female, 47 and now training 5 times a week again....strength is going up still...am now 16 kg/35 lbs down....

    Same. I don't find I have any problem with strength losses, though I'm pretty consistently in about a 10-15 lb range.
  • RJSDFGSRJSDFGS Member Posts: 2 Member Member Posts: 2 Member
    I am 3 weeks into my cut and I find weighing the ingredients out for every meal in order to hit my target macros, time consuming and not something that I could stick to for the duration of my cut, for example.
    I feel like for 2 of my 3 meals a day, I am eating for a purpose, opposed to for enjoyment. Does anyone else feel like this?
    I.e breakfast and lunch have now become functional meals, that I am trying to consume my correct macros, with not too much regard to the flavour. Breakfast is usually a green smoothie, packed with as much nutrients, fats and protein as possible (it is not the tastiest, but it ticks a lot of boxes).
    Whereas, dinner with my family in the evening is more of an enjoyable meal, which generally picks up the remaining macros with a protein shake in the evening or after a workout to hit my daily protein goal.
    Is anyone else here starting off a cut/ bulk well, but then having less time for meal prep in the week, so gains start to slip? For me it’s a real tricky balancing act to get right, work, gym, meal prep and family time. Has anyone got any good advice on how to tread this fine line well?
    As some days I end up in a rush to get out of the door in the morning, I don’t have time to make lunch and end up with the dreaded meal deal from the local shop. Any tips or advice would be massively appreciated.
  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,947 Member Member Posts: 1,947 Member
    RJSDFGS wrote: »
    I am 3 weeks into my cut and I find weighing the ingredients out for every meal in order to hit my target macros, time consuming and not something that I could stick to for the duration of my cut, for example.
    I feel like for 2 of my 3 meals a day, I am eating for a purpose, opposed to for enjoyment. Does anyone else feel like this?
    I.e breakfast and lunch have now become functional meals, that I am trying to consume my correct macros, with not too much regard to the flavour. Breakfast is usually a green smoothie, packed with as much nutrients, fats and protein as possible (it is not the tastiest, but it ticks a lot of boxes).
    Whereas, dinner with my family in the evening is more of an enjoyable meal, which generally picks up the remaining macros with a protein shake in the evening or after a workout to hit my daily protein goal.
    Is anyone else here starting off a cut/ bulk well, but then having less time for meal prep in the week, so gains start to slip? For me it’s a real tricky balancing act to get right, work, gym, meal prep and family time. Has anyone got any good advice on how to tread this fine line well?
    As some days I end up in a rush to get out of the door in the morning, I don’t have time to make lunch and end up with the dreaded meal deal from the local shop. Any tips or advice would be massively appreciated.

    Not that I don't like the food I have during the rest of the day but dinner is usually the only meal of the day that factors in anything beyond macros, the rest are basically means to an end. To a degree, I find this trade off necessary, but worthwhile.

    For me, I can't trust myself to make consistently good choices if I'm ad libbing lunches. It takes time to build any habit but pre-planning, logging and packing/prepping is the best way for me to be consistent. I'm very guilty of getting caught up in the minutia but try to make sure you nail the basics; appropriate calories, sufficient protein spread throughout the day, whatever level of food quality you define as "good enough" but allows for life to happen. I know it's not perfect but the best solution I've found for me involves having a protein shake for most of my protein doses throughout the day as it gets me to my macros and is low effort enough for me to prep so I don't find myself wandering around a store or hitting the drive thru for lunch.

    I've been loosely following the RP diet templates for the last few weeks as far as protein dosing and meal timing and it's been working out pretty well and meshes with my tolerance level for prep. I have my morning routine of about 10 minutes where I mix up my protein shakes (pre/intra workout, post workout, 11am, 3pm) across three shaker cups (11am and 3pm get combined in a large cup and I drink 1/2 each time) and requisite non-refrigerated foods requisite to my other macro targets before I train in the morning. I eat the same thing on a daily basis for those meals so it takes away some decision; I know what I eat and at what times for at least 3/4 of the day. I know I should eat more vegetables and what not but a more involved level of prep with containers and reheating food isn't appealing. It'd be a different story if I worked from home on a permanent basis but I don't see that happening any time soon (much to my chagrin).
  • wiigelecwiigelec Member Posts: 481 Member Member Posts: 481 Member
    10 weeks and very pleased with results so far, though I'm definitely getting burned out with the process. I've got four pounds till I reach my hard floor of 180 to start moving towards a surplus. Not sure yet if I'm going to press on here or go to maintenance for a few weeks and decide from there.

    Start
    date: 2/21/2021
    weight: 195.8 #
    caliper: 18mm
    bf%: 22.9
    fat mass: 44.8
    lean mass: 151.0

    Week 10
    date: 5/1/2021
    weight: 184.0 #
    caliper: 13mm
    bf%: 18.8
    fat mass: 34.5
    lean mass: 149.5

    Results
    total weight change: -11.8 #
    total fat mass change: -10.24 (86.7%)
    total lean mass change: -1.56 (13.3%)
    edited May 1
  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,947 Member Member Posts: 1,947 Member
    wiigelec wrote: »
    10 weeks and very pleased with results so far, though I'm definitely getting burned out with the process. I've got four pounds till I reach my hard floor of 180 to start moving towards a surplus. Not sure yet if I'm going to press on here or go to maintenance for a few weeks and decide from there.

    Start
    date: 2/21/2021
    weight: 195.8 #
    caliper: 18mm
    bf%: 22.9
    fat mass: 44.8
    lean mass: 151.0

    Week 10
    date: 5/1/2021
    weight: 184.0 #
    caliper: 13mm
    bf%: 18.8
    fat mass: 34.5
    lean mass: 149.5

    Results
    total weight change: -11.8 #
    total fat mass change: -10.24 (86.7%)
    total lean mass change: -1.56 (13.3%)

    Why the hard floor at 180?
  • wiigelecwiigelec Member Posts: 481 Member Member Posts: 481 Member
    I've been super skinny all my life (6'1" 135# after college), so it's a mental thing for me. I'm already feeling really thin, but the lower body fat has seemed to help my performance a bit in hockey and jiu jitsu, and is most likely better overall health wise.

    At 180 I will probably be around 17-18% and at this point I don't see too much to gain by going lower, especially if I can bulk back up to around 200 at around 20%, then start the whole thing over again. I'm ok with this gaining lean mass and losing fat mass being a slow process, particularly at my age (44).
  • watts6151watts6151 Member, Premium Posts: 805 Member Member, Premium Posts: 805 Member
    Finally woke up this morning under 220lb
    A nice 219.5, next goal is 215lb over the next 4-6 weeks
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 37,362 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 37,362 MFP Moderator
    Coming off vacation and a work trip.. hoping to get back on track after mother's day.
  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,947 Member Member Posts: 1,947 Member
    174.0 this morning. Coming back down after three family birthdays in two weeks (wife, myself, and Dad)
  • alexmose2alexmose2 Member Posts: 128 Member Member Posts: 128 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Coming off vacation and a work trip.. hoping to get back on track after mother's day.

    same to both but i'll be back on it in june
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 37,362 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 37,362 MFP Moderator
    alexmose2 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Coming off vacation and a work trip.. hoping to get back on track after mother's day.

    same to both but i'll be back on it in june

    Best of luck!
  • alexmose2alexmose2 Member Posts: 128 Member Member Posts: 128 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    alexmose2 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Coming off vacation and a work trip.. hoping to get back on track after mother's day.

    same to both but i'll be back on it in june

    Best of luck!

    You as well!
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