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kcurtis577 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »lol it applies to no one. Carbs are literally your bodies fuel. Unless your going to do keto which is entirely not necessary or overly productive for the majority. If you want to have super lazy tired workouts by all means cut out sugar and carbs. Just dont preach it as if its smart for other newbs
edit: you cant really preach these things as an absolute truth for everyone on a public forum and then just diss everyone who comes in disagreeing as if your way is best and we all need to shut up. Thats not how life works
I certainly don’t see it that way and sorry for the confusion . Yes, carbs are your bodies fuel, correct. I assumed that the reader would know that I was referring to cutting out simple carbs and not complex carbs.
Why would a reader assume you only meant some carbohydrates when you specifically wrote "all carbs"?
You realize fructose, found in fruit, is a simple carbohydrate, right? Do you really insist that people have to eliminate all fruit in order to see the results they want?
I personally do not eat much fruit bc of the sugars. Although fruit is considered a “complex carb” bc of the high amounts of fiber that it’s paired with. And again, I didn’t insist. It’s for anyone that would like to achieve fast results
Fruit and vegetables do have fiber. This doesn't transform fructose, which can be found in many fruits and vegetables, into a complex carbohydrate. You're eating simple carbohydrates daily, you just didn't realize it.
It may be worth doing some more reading into nutrition and how the body actually processes energy before you begin giving general advice to others.7 -
TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!18 -
kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
No, eating too many calories causes weight gain11 -
I ate a maple bar this morning. It was delicious. I expect massive gainz.I also logged it into my food diary, met my macros and stayed under my calories.13
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Dude, you"re new here...
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300331/most-helpful-posts-getting-started-must-reads#latest
Then go over to the Success Stories posts. Read and absorb before you post ...
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kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
Eating too many calories is what creates weight gain. It isn't a function of eating too many carbohydrates.
I suggest you read some threads here and check out the results achieved by successful posters who regularly eat all kinds of carbohydrates, including simple ones. Of the people with high level fitness achievement here, I don't think there is anyone who has eliminated simple carbohydrates. It's just not necessary.3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
No, eating too many calories causes weight gain
EXACTLY right!!! Bad carbs convert to calories! Take the number of simple carbs you ingest and multiply that number by four and it will equal to the number of calories that the carbs are turning into. Example: 4 grams of bad carbs= 16 calories. Simple carbs are the “back door” into getting too many calories.
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kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
No, eating too many calories causes weight gain
EXACTLY right!!! Bad carbs convert to calories! Take the number of simple carbs you ingest and multiply that number by four and it will equal to the number of calories that the carbs are turning into. Example: 4 grams of bad carbs= 16 calories. Simple carbs are the “back door” into getting too many calories.
All carbohydrates (and fat and protein) have calories, nothing is "converting" into calories. It isn't true that "bad carbohydrates" somehow have more calories than other carbohydrates -- I'm not sure where you read that, but it seems you have run into some inaccurate information.6 -
kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
No, eating too many calories causes weight gain
EXACTLY right!!! Bad carbs convert to calories! Take the number of simple carbs you ingest and multiply that number by four and it will equal to the number of calories that the carbs are turning into. Example: 4 grams of bad carbs= 16 calories. Simple carbs are the “back door” into getting too many calories.
You're *kitten* kidding, right?!?
All food has calories.
Carbs (all of them) - 4 calories per gram
Protein - 4 calories per gram
Fats - 9 calories per gram
Alcohol - 7 calories per gram13 -
kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
No, eating too many calories causes weight gain
EXACTLY right!!! Bad carbs convert to calories! Take the number of simple carbs you ingest and multiply that number by four and it will equal to the number of calories that the carbs are turning into. Example: 4 grams of bad carbs= 16 calories. Simple carbs are the “back door” into getting too many calories.
Oh kcurtis, quit while you still have some dignity left...entertaining first thread though.9 -
janejellyroll wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
Eating too many calories is what creates weight gain. It isn't a function of eating too many carbohydrates.
I suggest you read some threads here and check out the results achieved by successful posters who regularly eat all kinds of carbohydrates, including simple ones. Of the people with high level fitness achievement here, I don't think there is anyone who has eliminated simple carbohydrates. It's just not necessary.
Carbs have 4 calories per gram.0 -
kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
No, eating too many calories causes weight gain
EXACTLY right!!! Bad carbs convert to calories! Take the number of simple carbs you ingest and multiply that number by four and it will equal to the number of calories that the carbs are turning into. Example: 4 grams of bad carbs= 16 calories. Simple carbs are the “back door” into getting too many calories.
No.... :noway:2 -
kcurtis577 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
Eating too many calories is what creates weight gain. It isn't a function of eating too many carbohydrates.
I suggest you read some threads here and check out the results achieved by successful posters who regularly eat all kinds of carbohydrates, including simple ones. Of the people with high level fitness achievement here, I don't think there is anyone who has eliminated simple carbohydrates. It's just not necessary.
Carbs have 4 calories per gram.
This is a correct statement. +1 for you.9 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
Eating too many calories is what creates weight gain. It isn't a function of eating too many carbohydrates.
I suggest you read some threads here and check out the results achieved by successful posters who regularly eat all kinds of carbohydrates, including simple ones. Of the people with high level fitness achievement here, I don't think there is anyone who has eliminated simple carbohydrates. It's just not necessary.
Carbs have 4 calories per gram.
This is a correct statement. +1 for you.
And its only taken 2 pages... :laugh:7 -
kcurtis577 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kcurtis577 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.
Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.
The what now? :huh:
Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!
Eating too many calories is what creates weight gain. It isn't a function of eating too many carbohydrates.
I suggest you read some threads here and check out the results achieved by successful posters who regularly eat all kinds of carbohydrates, including simple ones. Of the people with high level fitness achievement here, I don't think there is anyone who has eliminated simple carbohydrates. It's just not necessary.
Carbs have 4 calories per gram.
Fat, protein, and alcohol also have calories per gram. Calories aren't something that is only found in carbohydrates, so focusing exclusively on carbohydrates (as you are doing here) makes no sense.2 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I ate a maple bar this morning. It was delicious. I expect massive gainz.I also logged it into my food diary, met my macros and stayed under my calories.
Power to you! I think my post was directed a little more towards body fat percentage vs muscle gain. Mainly the stomach area and other places that sugar likes to hide from the naked eye. Looking good though!10 -
What I got out of reading this thread first thing logging in this morning (when I was waking up with my first cup of coffee) was get up, get off the couch, make changes instead of excuses, etc. etc. I needed that motivation this morning as I have been in a downward slump for way too long now! Thanks for that and welcome.3
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kcurtis577 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »I ate a maple bar this morning. It was delicious. I expect massive gainz.I also logged it into my food diary, met my macros and stayed under my calories.
Power to you! I think my post was directed a little more towards body fat percentage vs muscle gain. Mainly the stomach area and other places that sugar likes to hide from the naked eye. Looking good though!
What the *kitten* does this even mean?
Your body doesn't know the difference between sugar in Skittles or sugar in strawberries. @anvilhead - will you do your awesome sugar talk?7 -
Is it "massive" results? Or is it "fast" results? Not sure which you are advocating because you are using both terms, but in either case, eating carbs won't prevent it.
"Outworking" everybody in the room won't necessarily give you more massive results either. Sometimes, in fact, the very opposite might happen. As with many things, balance matters also. I would 100% sabotage my progress if I did not balance the work part with the rest part. (In fitness, rest is where the magic happens).
BTW, 1 gram of complex carbs =~ 4 kcal. 1 gram of simple carbs =~ 4 kcal. Bad carbs don't convert to calories. Excess (i.e. unused) calories convert to fat.
If you want to extol the virtues of keto, be my guest. It is one of many eating methods that work with a calorie deficit. Carry a similar deficit over time to any other plan and guess what, it works about the same. In weight loss it ain't the what - it's the how much.
If you want to extol the virtues of hard work of commitment (to weight loss or fitness), you likely won't get much argument around here.
What you will find around here is an approach to nutrition and fitness that takes overall health into account. Eat at a (not massive, but sensible) deficit to lose weight. Eat a (not massive, but sensible) surplus to gain weight. Train in a way that promotes adequate recovery without burnout. Optimize both for most healthy path to your goals.
I appreciate the fact that you are motivated. I don't think anyone wants to rain on that parade. I would simply recommend to be motivated to do it right. There are enough flags in your original post to suggest that you may have a little bit to learn about how this really works. Take some time and read some of the amazing success stories. Read about the many diet scams out there, including those who bastardize a perfectly legitimate way of eating (keto). You'll find many of those have a lot more to gain than just parroting an eating program.
Good luck.10 -
I feel like I should add that I was up at 3:45 this morning (and every morning) hitting the gym. But I ate said maple bar. Am I currently in the positive or in the negative for all the "massive action" results?11
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