MASSIVE ACTION

bpetrosky

OP, where did the bad carb touch you?

kcurtis577

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Because simple carbs are digested more quickly doesn't make them "bad." That is what we are disagreeing with.

Sometimes, quick carbs are good. Ask any diabetic. And they don't lead directly to overeating, like you state.

That Harvard article just describes what happens when you eat simple and complex carbs.

Okay...... well I see where you’re coming from for sure.

I’m stating that simple carbs CAN lead to overeating because they digest very quickly resulting in a crave for hunger much faster vs eating complex carbs that sustain the body for longer periods of time resulting in a longer gap between urges or craves, whatever word you prefer.

I’m certainly not trying to preach the Bible here. Just stating what “can” happen to spread awareness.

I appreciate the thoughtful and less antagonistic response. It’s nice having someone who really wants to engage in a good conversation. Thanks

Biggster69

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

quiksylver296

kcurtis577 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Because simple carbs are digested more quickly doesn't make them "bad." That is what we are disagreeing with.

Sometimes, quick carbs are good. Ask any diabetic. And they don't lead directly to overeating, like you state.

That Harvard article just describes what happens when you eat simple and complex carbs.

I’m stating that simple carbs CAN lead to overeating because they digest very quickly resulting in a crave for hunger much faster vs eating complex carbs that sustain the body for longer periods of time resulting in a longer gap between urges or craves, whatever word you prefer.

They could, for some people. But you are stating this as an absolute. What is true for one person is not necessarily true for another. That is one of the best things about wandering through these forums for awhile. You'll see that what works for one person doesn't work for another. And that's ok.

Ultimately, as long as the person is able to reduce their calories in a way that they can sustain forever, that's what counts.

kcurtis577

Biggster69 wrote: »

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

#fibersupplementinthemornings

RuNaRoUnDaFiEld

Carlos Slim Helu doesn't strike me as a fit get up at 3am type of man.

cmriverside

kcurtis577 wrote: »

Biggster69 wrote: »

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

#fibersupplementinthemornings

Or just eat a balanced varied diet with the correct number of calories and enough protein and fat.

I've never taken a fiber supplement in my life and I'm not going to start now.

What is your bottom line, kcurtis? What precisely are you trying to get across here? Because we've had these discussions for years and for thousands of threads.

I guess, say what you mean and mean what you say and know your audience?

try2again

kcurtis577 wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Because simple carbs are digested more quickly doesn't make them "bad." That is what we are disagreeing with.

Sometimes, quick carbs are good. Ask any diabetic. And they don't lead directly to overeating, like you state.

That Harvard article just describes what happens when you eat simple and complex carbs.

I appreciate the thoughtful and less antagonistic response.

That's interesting considering the tone of your post.

janejellyroll

kcurtis577 wrote: »

Biggster69 wrote: »

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

#fibersupplementinthemornings

I eat a wide variety of carbohydrate-containing foods, including vegetables, fruit, beans, and grains. No fiber supplementation necessary and I get a ton of other nutrients along with huge satisfaction from my meals.

(Not to dig on anyone who chooses to supplement fiber, whatever works!)

L1zardQueen

janejellyroll wrote: »

kcurtis577 wrote: »

Biggster69 wrote: »

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

#fibersupplementinthemornings

I eat a wide variety of carbohydrate-containing foods, including vegetables, fruit, beans, and grains. No fiber supplementation necessary and I get a ton of other nutrients along with huge satisfaction from my meals.

(Not to dig on anyone who chooses to supplement fiber, whatever works!)

I used to use fiber supplements but it never helped me. Chronic sufferer here. I did the 10 vegetables/fruit challenge on MFP and whoosh!! constipation is gone! Whoduh thunk!

janejellyroll

L1zardQueen wrote: »

janejellyroll wrote: »

kcurtis577 wrote: »

Biggster69 wrote: »

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

#fibersupplementinthemornings

I eat a wide variety of carbohydrate-containing foods, including vegetables, fruit, beans, and grains. No fiber supplementation necessary and I get a ton of other nutrients along with huge satisfaction from my meals.

(Not to dig on anyone who chooses to supplement fiber, whatever works!)

I used to use fiber supplements but it never helped me. Chronic sufferer here. I did the 10 vegetables/fruit challenge on MFP and whoosh!! constipation is gone! Whoduh thunk!

Good point -- my husband is another person who doesn't see much impact from fiber supplementation but does see results from increasing the fiber-containing foods in his daily meals.

ljmorgi

quiksylver296 wrote: »

I'm having hashbrowns with my dinner. Does that count? And I have enough carbs left after dinner for some Haribo.

I just snorted my melon cubes. Thanks a lot.

annaskiski

L1zardQueen wrote: »

janejellyroll wrote: »

kcurtis577 wrote: »

Biggster69 wrote: »

The result would be, that I am getting massive constipated without certain carbs and fiber.

#fibersupplementinthemornings

I eat a wide variety of carbohydrate-containing foods, including vegetables, fruit, beans, and grains. No fiber supplementation necessary and I get a ton of other nutrients along with huge satisfaction from my meals.

(Not to dig on anyone who chooses to supplement fiber, whatever works!)

I used to use fiber supplements but it never helped me. Chronic sufferer here. I did the 10 vegetables/fruit challenge on MFP and whoosh!! constipation is gone! Whoduh thunk!

Are you saying that you had MASSIVE results?

TavistockToad

This just popped up on my Facebook... :laugh:

sijomial

Oh dear!!
Seldom has such a bad start been made.

Maybe a new profile and a fresh start might be a good idea OP?

There's loads of sticky threads pinned to the top of the various forums - you could get a massive amount of education from them.

janejellyroll

sijomial wrote: »

Oh dear!!
Seldom has such a bad start been made.

Maybe a new profile and a fresh start might be a good idea OP?

There's loads of sticky threads pinned to the top of the various forums - you could get a massive amount of education from them.

"MASSIVE READING AND LEARNING" doesn't have the same ring as "MASSIVE ACTION."

clicketykeys

cmriverside wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

cmriverside wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

quiksylver296 wrote: »

JaydedMiss wrote: »

i went to the store to buy stuff to make protein cake came come and this thread somehow got worse. Jeez. I think im going to have icecream to, Just to honor this thread. Ill also eat white potatoes for dinner because mmm

What flavor cake and ice cream?

I'm having hashbrowns with my dinner. Does that count? And I have enough carbs left after dinner for some Haribo.

Blueberry vanilla cake with cinnamon banana cherry icecream Just bought the egg whites and cherries. Mmmmmm

Great. Now I want blueberry vanilla cake.

I had a bunch of pretzels yesterday - those Pretzel Crisps. Man those are good.

im currently fighting an obsession with chocolate coated pretzels and jubjubes. Must not give in hah. I gave in for a while and simply cant moderate those hah

Pistachio Talenti is on the docket for Friday. Antici-pation, as Siri says. She puts pauses in the weirdest places in big words. I think she needs remedial reading.

Perhaps Siri has been watching Rocky Horror ;D

AnvilHead

kcurtis577 wrote: »

cmriverside wrote: »

So, kcurtis -you don't eat fruit, vegetables, beans, dairy? All you eat is meat and spoonfuls of fat? I mean, it's a pretty extreme stance you're taking.

Hi there! I eat TONS of veggies. Veggies such as corn or sweet potatoes etc... contain complex carbs which don’t manifest into sugar such as simple carbs.

You may want to study up on basic nutrition and physiology before you dig yourself any deeper.

ALL carbs "manifest into sugar". Carbohydrates are all sugars - complex carbs are long chains of sugars bonded together, simple carbs are short chains. Simple sugars are mono- and disaccharides, complex carbs are polysaccharides. A 'saccharide' is defined as "an organic compound containing a sugar or sugars". See the "saccharide" part in the word "polysaccharide"? That means it contains sugars. Yes, even complex carbs are made of sugars.

When carbs are digested/metabolized, whether simple or complex, guess what they are ALL broken down into?

(Hint: Sugars.)

Haha! I like the emoji. Big difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs. You’ve probably done some studying on this yourself. My goal is to mainly ingest complex carbs so I don’t store fat through simple carbs. Eating too many of the wrong carbs can lead to health problems (diabetes) and unwanted weight gain. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know!

1) Again, a profound misunderstanding of how this all works. Simple carbs don't cause you to "store fat" any more than complex carbs (or proteins or fats) do, given equivalent calories. You store fat when you are in a calorie surplus - regardless of what you ate to get you there. In a caloric deficit, there is no net storage of fat - regardless of what your diet consists of.

2) Again, study up before you go any further. Diabetes is not caused by eating "too many of the wrong carbs". There is absolutely nothing factually correct about that.

3) Back to carbs being stored as fat - Carbs are converted into fat via de novo lipogenesis - a process which is metabolically 'expensive' to the body and rarely happens except in massive (i.e., far beyond sane) overfeeding of carbohydrates. But hey, guess which macronutrient is most readily stored as fat in the body?

(Hint: Fat.)

quiksylver296

Thanks, @AnvilHead.