You cannot live the rest of your life in this body
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grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts14 -
Lol woo all you want, but you see what my physique looks like. I didn’t get this body without some knowledge of diet and exercise. People just get upset bc they know they have to make changes in their diet and that makes them uncomfortable. I respect that but there comes a time when you have to be mature and accept facts.14
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It all just points back to my original post, so many Americans are not properly educated on diet and fitness.12
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grayrhondak4575 wrote: »grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
My calorie goal isn't 2000 and I am not eating 2000 calories of dessert every day or any day for that matter. I eat healthy for me and then have dessert if I feel like it. Why does everyone think that everybody can eat 2000 cals of anything and not gain weight? 2000 cals a day for me would have me gaining probably a pound a week.
I was just using that as an example. Also, I’m confused with what point you’re even trying to make bc you literally just reversed your previous notion.6 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"9 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable8 -
This body needs some upgrades and repairs at the mechanic, if you know what I mean.
If you choose to live the rest of your life in this body, it will not be terribly long. You will have ailments, aches, fatigue. You will be more likely to get diabetes, heart disease, cancer. You'll go out like your father. Or your aunt or grandpa or cousin. Medicating yourself with a handful of pill bottles and cake, or maybe alcohol. Or whatever. You know it's a temporary escape. You know it. You will die early, worn out and weary. It's already started.
I mean--you will die anyway, but wouldn't it be better if it were farther away and the lead-up was less painful? If you were strong where you are weak now. If getting up off the floor didn't make you out of breath. What if you could just jump up and maybe even bustle around? What if you could run? How would the steady breath in your lungs feel? How would your heart feel, making itself more known within your chest?
What if your weak muscles weren't so weak? What if you were actually STRONG? It's still possible. You're still alive, so it's still possible. But every day you stuff yourself with pizza, ice cream, beer, and/or cookies, you are going to lose out. At some point, the food you eat and the way you move your body regularly will be the defining factors of your health. At this rate, anyway. It's your choice.
So, what are you going to do about it?
(Written to myself this evening.)
You're right. I couldn't keep up my lifestyle. I was eating a diet of candy soda and take out. I was destined to become diabetic and have heart disease. I woke up a few months ago and said not anymore. Well actually seeing a friend who dropped 50lbs made me wake up. I have 4lbs to go before I am just overweight and not obese anymore. I will not ever get back to the 200lb mark. I support you and great job.3 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period. Here, let me quote it again for you -grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?13 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period.
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?
Yes that’s exactly what I stated in the post. 2000 calories of Whole Foods are better than 2000 calories of desserts12 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period.
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?
Yes that’s exactly what I stated in the post. 2000 calories of Whole Foods are better than 2000 calories of desserts
Ah, ok. That's a good debate to have because sooo many people are trying to do that... 2000 cals of cake, period. Magazine cover physique, here I come. That probably warrants its own thread.10 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period.
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?
Yes that’s exactly what I stated in the post. 2000 calories of Whole Foods are better than 2000 calories of desserts
Ah, ok. That's a good debate to have because sooo many people are trying to do that... 2000 cals of cake, period. Magazine cover, here I come. That probably warrants it's own thread.
If that would be a deficit then yes that person would lose weight. However, there is virtually no protein in cake so said individual would also lose muscle. Calorie deficits cause weight loss but what you eat affects what weight is lost and how your body looks.7 -
collectingblues wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »so are you selling brain transplants?
Nevermind. I was just having feelings tonight and it struck a chord, so I thought I'd share. Sorry. Asking for deletion rather than be mocked.
Sorry you feel that way. Maybe if you used the first person ("I can't live the rest of my life in this body") you would have gotten a better reaction. Because if you feel mocked by a joke, the rest of us can feel berated and body shamed by a thread title.
This. The amount of body shaming is ridiculous in that post.
That is not body shaming. People seriously need to re-evaluate things. This post calls attention to a huge problem in America. America has an obesity problem. That’s factual and I think a lot of it is because people don’t have the proper education about health and fitness
We don't have proper education with nutrition. In health class teachers would say based on a 2000 calorie diet blah blah blah. Eat a colorful plate,avoid too much sugar, move more. Okay sound advice but never were we taught how to implement a correct diet and exercise regimen. Then we are bombarded with fast and convenient food.3 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »so are you selling brain transplants?
Nevermind. I was just having feelings tonight and it struck a chord, so I thought I'd share. Sorry. Asking for deletion rather than be mocked.
Sorry you feel that way. Maybe if you used the first person ("I can't live the rest of my life in this body") you would have gotten a better reaction. Because if you feel mocked by a joke, the rest of us can feel berated and body shamed by a thread title.
This. The amount of body shaming is ridiculous in that post.
That is not body shaming. People seriously need to re-evaluate things. This post calls attention to a huge problem in America. America has an obesity problem. That’s factual and I think a lot of it is because people don’t have the proper education about health and fitness
We don't have proper education with nutrition. In health class teachers would say based on a 2000 calorie diet blah blah blah. Eat a colorful plate,avoid too much sugar, move more. Okay sound advice but never were we taught how to implement a correct diet and exercise regimen. Then we are bombarded with fast and convenient food.
Exactly! I couldn’t have said it any better myself5 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period.
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?
Yes that’s exactly what I stated in the post. 2000 calories of Whole Foods are better than 2000 calories of desserts
Ah, ok. That's a good debate to have because sooo many people are trying to do that... 2000 cals of cake, period. Magazine cover, here I come. That probably warrants it's own thread.
If that would be a deficit then yes that person would lose weight. However, there is virtually no protein in cake so said individual would also lose muscle. Calorie deficits cause weight loss but what you eat affects what weight is lost and how your body looks.
I'm aware of that. No one is arguing that. Hell, aside from you, no one is even arguing a dessert-only diet. Yes, in other threads that example is given to make a point, but it's not a recommendation... and it's rarely if ever given without appropriate context.6 -
jefamer2017 wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »so are you selling brain transplants?
Nevermind. I was just having feelings tonight and it struck a chord, so I thought I'd share. Sorry. Asking for deletion rather than be mocked.
Sorry you feel that way. Maybe if you used the first person ("I can't live the rest of my life in this body") you would have gotten a better reaction. Because if you feel mocked by a joke, the rest of us can feel berated and body shamed by a thread title.
This. The amount of body shaming is ridiculous in that post.
That is not body shaming. People seriously need to re-evaluate things. This post calls attention to a huge problem in America. America has an obesity problem. That’s factual and I think a lot of it is because people don’t have the proper education about health and fitness
We don't have proper education with nutrition. In health class teachers would say based on a 2000 calorie diet blah blah blah. Eat a colorful plate,avoid too much sugar, move more. Okay sound advice but never were we taught how to implement a correct diet and exercise regimen. Then we are bombarded with fast and convenient food.
But you then opt for the fast and convenient food instead of that colorful plate, avoiding excess calories and sugar, and moving more.
That's your choice. Not all of us made that bad choice.
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grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period.
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?
Yes that’s exactly what I stated in the post. 2000 calories of Whole Foods are better than 2000 calories of desserts
Ah, ok. That's a good debate to have because sooo many people are trying to do that... 2000 cals of cake, period. Magazine cover, here I come. That probably warrants it's own thread.
If that would be a deficit then yes that person would lose weight. However, there is virtually no protein in cake so said individual would also lose muscle. Calorie deficits cause weight loss but what you eat affects what weight is lost and how your body looks.
I'm aware of that. No one is arguing that. Hell, aside from you, no one is even arguing a dessert-only diet. Yes, in other threads that example is given to make a point, but it's not a recommendation... and it's rarely if ever given without appropriate context.
Actually people were arguing that. Go back and reread8 -
grayrhondak4575 wrote: »I get that OP was meant to inspire, but I'd rather have dessert and a shorter life than no dessert and a longer life. My life is miserable enough. I take whatever bit of happiness I can get. I'm physically in my best shape, but being able to run longer doesn't give me joy.
You can have dessert and still maintain health and fitness. I think the OP is saying foods like this shouldn’t be eaten everyday.
If someone is meeting all of their nutritional goals, why can’t those foods be eaten every day if they fit in my goal? Please explain.
ETA: fixed typos
I don’t see how eating desserts everyday would not make your sugar and grams of fat excessive. Maybe your calorie goal could be met, but at the end of the day eating 2000 calories of wholesome nutritious foods is better than 2000 calories of desserts
disagree on the assumption that your "better" = my "better"
I don’t believe you read what I put. I stated that Whole Foods are better than desserts on the basis of nutrition. I seriously fail to see how that’s even debatable
First of all, you did NOT say on the basis of nutrition. You said better, period.
Second, if I'm getting adequate nutrition, why can't I also have some dessert every day? Is my adequate nutrition not adequate enough?
Lastly, are we talking about 2000 calories of dessert vs 2000 calories of whole foods? Or are we talking about something that actually happens in real life, like a balance of whole foods, convenience foods, treats, goodies, etc vs 2000 cals of exclusively whole foods?
BTW - I eat oreos whole... do they count as whole foods, or dessert? Or both?
Yes that’s exactly what I stated in the post. 2000 calories of Whole Foods are better than 2000 calories of desserts
Ah, ok. That's a good debate to have because sooo many people are trying to do that... 2000 cals of cake, period. Magazine cover, here I come. That probably warrants it's own thread.
If that would be a deficit then yes that person would lose weight. However, there is virtually no protein in cake so said individual would also lose muscle. Calorie deficits cause weight loss but what you eat affects what weight is lost and how your body looks.
I'm aware of that. No one is arguing that. Hell, aside from you, no one is even arguing a dessert-only diet. Yes, in other threads that example is given to make a point, but it's not a recommendation... and it's rarely if ever given without appropriate context.
Actually people were arguing that. Go back and reread
Yea, I don't see it/them. Sorry.7 -
I’m too busy being aesthetic8
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