Healthy saturated fats!!
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HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Mine is just a quick little fact about how saturated fats can improve overall wellness and simply stating a caloric deficit will make you lose weight when after a while it slowly lowers your metabolism.
I mean, frankly, why are you not more worried about your Omega 3 as opposed to your saturated fat intake?
Agreed, I'm far more concerned with increasing my Omega 3 and unsaturated fats. I'm not as concerned about limiting sat fat as I used to be, but I see no evidence to actually try to add more of it to my diet.8 -
HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.
Shall I list them for you ?
Yeah, FYI olive oil is not a saturated fat, so you might want to give this one some thought10 -
Oh goodness, this didn't go as planned:p just gonna stop here I suppose! These discussions turn into a battle of wits rather than insightful discussions.10
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HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Oh goodness, this didn't go as planned:p just gonna stop here I suppose! These discussions turn into a battle of wits rather than insightful discussions.
I disagree. I think the discussion has been enlightening. Unfortunately your OP was at least partially incorrect, and we don't like to leave incorrect info unchallenged. Knowing your audience is super important, and there are a lot of medical, research, and nutrition professionals here, as well as some of us are just really well read. And most of us were handicapped in the beginning of our weight loss by partially incorrect or unnecessarily specific tips and tricks.19 -
HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Oh goodness, this didn't go as planned:p just gonna stop here I suppose! These discussions turn into a battle of wits rather than insightful discussions.
Well, you spouted a position that has been taken up by fairly questionable media personalities but has yet to meet the support of the people who are considered to be experts in the field especially when it comes to animal derived saturated fats.
And you gave 2 out of 3 examples of saturated fats that were:
a) olive oil, THE prime example of a monounsaturated fat (oleic acid)
and
b) a plant based fat source (peanut butter) where ~50% of the fat is oleic acid (the same monounsaturated fat as in olive oil) and ~30% is polyunsaturated fats.
And all that @kimny72 just said... cause, really, whether you eat potatoes or eggs, or snickers bars, you ain't gonna lose weight by eating more Calories than you spend, or gain weight by eating less Calories than you spend!7 -
Pro tip: It generally doesn't go well when one postures as some kind of expert with no certifications and gives advise that wasn't asked for.14
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Just plain wrong. They need more WOO buttons5
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Something a bit more recent:
"High saturated and trans fat intake (which elevates LDL like saturated fat) in the Nurses and Health Professional Follow-Up Studies combined is associated with an 8-13% higher mortality and replacement of saturated fat with any carbohydrate, PUFA and MUFA is associated with lower mortality with PUFA being more effective than MUFA (19% reduction versus 11%). "
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/291740257 -
"This study suggests that replacing saturated fatty acid, glycemic carbohydrate, or monounsaturated fatty acid with linoleic acid may be associated with a lower risk of ischemic stroke."
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/290707175 -
HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »The benefits are amazing! Simply a tbsp of virgin olive oil or all natural PB with 3 of your meals a day can control/lower cholesterol, raise HDL and lower LDL. Clean your lipid panel, etc!
Organic cage free eggs, the yours are rich in saturated fats and so good for you
Do these things and the outcome of overall health leads to weight loss and weight control. hope this into helped!!!
I can just more options if needed!!
it may lower cholesterol and raise HDL /lower LDL in many people. but with people Like me who have familial hypercholesterolemia,we have to watch our fats(all fats) and cholesterol. since I now eat low fat,low cholesterol and high fiber along with taking a medication my cholesterol is now in the normal numbers(well was,I have to get tested again wed.)3 -
"The SFA stearic acid was associated with increased CRC risk (ORSA = 1.17, 95% CI: 1.01-1.35, P = 0.041)."
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28829991
I am not quite ready to jump on the saturated fat is good bandwagon.4 -
Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.
It's polyUNsaturated/monoUNsaturated fats. Sorry I had to correct this.2 -
Very little saturated fat in either olive oil or peanut butter.
Nutrition Facts
Olive oil
Amount Per 1 tablespoon (13.5 g)
Calories 119
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 14 g 21%
Saturated fat 1.9 g 9%
Polyunsaturated fat 1.4 g
Monounsaturated fat 10 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 0 mg 0%
Potassium 0 mg 0%
Total Carbohydrate 0 g 0%
Dietary fiber 0 g 0%
Sugar 0 g
Protein 0 g 0%
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HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »The benefits are amazing! Simply a tbsp of virgin olive oil
Stopped reading there. You might want to educate yourself on which fats are saturated before trying to "educate" others
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HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.
Shall I list them for you ?
Yeah, FYI olive oil is not a saturated fat, so you might want to give this one some thought
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/extra-virgin-olive-oil#section2
Nutrient Composition of Extra Virgin Olive Oil
This is the nutrient content of 100 grams of olive oil (1):
Saturated fat: 13.8%.
Monounsaturated fat: 73% (most of it the 18 carbon long oleic acid).
Omega-6: 9.7%.
Omega-3: 0.76%."1 -
HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.
Shall I list them for you ?
Yeah, FYI olive oil is not a saturated fat, so you might want to give this one some thought
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/extra-virgin-olive-oil#section2
Nutrient Composition of Extra Virgin Olive Oil
This is the nutrient content of 100 grams of olive oil (1):
Saturated fat: 13.8%.
Monounsaturated fat: 73% (most of it the 18 carbon long oleic acid).
Omega-6: 9.7%.
Omega-3: 0.76%."
OK. I think most things are a mix, though I'm not sure of that. But since it's 86% unsat, it's considered unsaturated. Just like rice is considered a carb but does contain small amounts of fat and protein. Are you saying olive oil is considered a saturated fat?8 -
HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.Lillymoo01 wrote: »Just a little tip. Learn which foods contain saturated fats and which contain polysaturated and monosaturated fats first. Then at least one part of your statement would have truth.
Shall I list them for you ?
Yeah, FYI olive oil is not a saturated fat, so you might want to give this one some thought
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/extra-virgin-olive-oil#section2
Nutrient Composition of Extra Virgin Olive Oil
This is the nutrient content of 100 grams of olive oil (1):
Saturated fat: 13.8%.
Monounsaturated fat: 73% (most of it the 18 carbon long oleic acid).
Omega-6: 9.7%.
Omega-3: 0.76%."
OK. I think most things are a mix, though I'm not sure of that. But since it's 86% unsat, it's considered unsaturated. Just like rice is considered a carb but does contain small amounts of fat and protein. Are you saying olive oil is considered a saturated fat?
Yes, most things are... Even saturated fats have some portion of unsaturated. They're categorised by the main component.6 -
Friend, I am glad you are excited about general well being at 24 and despite the fact that I kind of want to poke fun too I think the others have it down pat. Keep researching and learning but don't obsess. You will not always get it right like you did not today and that is okay because you are 24. There is a saying that I have loved all my life and it goes "it is what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts."
I think healthy eating is simple. There is a big world of beautiful food out there and if I eat a variety of it my nutritional needs are going to take care of themselves most of the time. IMO unhealthy is usually just a lack of moderation. Eating a hamburger is perfectly healthy. Eating nothing but hamburgers might leave you deficient in some areas eventually.
If you follow every research paper from every online expert source you are going to drive yourself crazy and look not-so-smart as you go.
Enjoy being 24 and don't get weighed down in minutia.10 -
HaPawleyFit17 wrote: »Do you have some peer reviewed research supporting how saturated fats lead to better health lead to weight loss? Or are you perhaps a research scientist with something published I could look for?
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/truth-about-saturated-fat
Wrapping Up
A diet that will help get you leaner, help get you healthier, and provide you with much-needed energy to pound through tough workouts? All thanks to healthy amounts of saturated fat in the diet.
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Emken EA, Dietary linoleic acid acid influences desaturation and acylation of deuterium-labeled linoleic and linolenic acids in young adult males. Biochemical Biophysical Acta, Aug 4, 1994; 1213 (3) 277-278
Kabara, J J, The Pharmacological Effects Of Lipids, The American Oil Chemists Society, Champaign, IL, 1978, 1-14. Cohen, L A, Journal of the National Cancer Institute, 1986, 77:43
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USDA National Database Nutrient Database for Standard Reference.
Conversations and mentorship with Dr Eric Serrano
Conversations and interviews with Chris Masterjohn
Those aren’t peer-reviewed scientific studies. I’ll listen to the “veterans” here rather than some random guy that thinks he knows what he’s talking about.
I wasn't going to reply to this thread, but...
How does one get a paper published in Journal of Applied Physiology, FASEB, Biochemical Biophysical Acta, Journal of the National Cancer Institute or Journal of the American College of Nutrition without peer review?2 -
Edited because your comment was not about the content of the studies but only about whether they had been peer reviewed or not.3
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