Confused by numbers :D Help?
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sauronseye wrote: »Thanks for the input, Anne. And congrats on your success and your medals!
I don't think 17kg is 'not a lot'. It might seem to be little to people that have much more to lose, but to me (and the majority of people who have never been even close to obese), it is. I don't fit in 90% of my wardrobe. I am not rich, I am not even middle class. I can't afford to buy new clothes all the time. My knees started to hurt from the extra weight (when you walk, the force on your knees is the equivalent of 1½ times your body weight). I'm a practical person who wants to be healthy, fit and look good. I am not interested in staying fit at this weight. I want my clothes to fit and I want to be able to get into the dress I already own because I can't afford to spend more money on clothes.
I see where you are coming from but being fit is not my only goal, I definitely want to lose weight. If it's doable, I want to do it. I've been overweight for too long and I don't like it. I don't like how I look, I don't like how it feels, and I can'and seeing pictures of myself because my belly's coming dangerously close to the size of my boobs, and I have huge boobs. Even my face is fat now and I look different than I looked only a year ago.
For me, this is the tipping point, I just can't go on like this. Yes, I feel much better than I did a month ago, but I want to look better as well. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
BTW thanks for converting the values to the metric system, I still struggle with imperial.
edit: I went to the vet's today to get something for my pets and I weighed myself using her scale and it turns out that I did lose weight. 0.7 kg to be exact!
I understand that it's a lot of weight in that sense - clothes fit, how you perceive yourself, etc. Where I'm coming from is that our bodies can only metabolize a certain amount of fat per day per pound of fat on our body, and that amount is not huge. The closer we get to the line - the closer to the maximum - the more risk there is that we'll lose more than necessary from lean tissue, and the more risk there is that energy level will suffer, which drains effectiveness from our workouts, and makes our fitness goals slower/harder to accomplish.
For a while, when a bit heavier than you are (around 155), I unintentionally lost too fast (a little less than 2 pounds a week) for a brief period because of an incorrect calorie needs estimate. I corrected as soon as I realized, but got weak and fatigued anyway. It took more weeks to recover from that and be back to a proper energy level and strength again.
I'm not saying you shouldn't lose weight - I completely support your goal - I'm just suggesting you be cautious. I understand that your doctors said it was OK. I think sometimes doctors encourage larger calorie cuts thinking their patients won't really be able to stick with them full time, so will net out a higher number. I'm not sure. All I know is that 1200 (plus exercise) was way too low for me, and I paid a price for doing it for a fairly short time.
Weight loss is a wonderful thing - by all means, work on it. I'm not saying you should only work on fitness. I'm saying I'd encourage you not to sacrifice fitness to accomplish rapid weight loss. You can lose a really meaningful amount of weight in a couple of months, even at a moderate pace. Fitness will also make you smaller/tighter, help your clothes fit better, and generally improve how you look and feel. Fitness and weight are related, but not one and the same thing.
I just like to see people stay strong and healthy while achieving their weight loss goals.3 -
sauronseye wrote: »Snowflake1968 wrote: »
Doesn't woo mean woohoo, like good job, or I agree? I hope so, or I've been insulting a lot of people.
'Woo' is a slang for 'not proven scientifically'. Like juice cleanses and detox in general, for instance.
ashliedelgado I doubt that a GP, a neurologist, an orthopaedic surgeon, and an ENT specialist would all agree on something that is potentially harmful to me. They all told me the same thing, 1kg is OK, anything more would be too fast and dangerous. I don't know what kind of experiences you have with physicians, but these people are experts in their respective fields and never advised me anything that was hurtful.
I am in no way an expert in the area of medicine but I am scientifically literate and able to critically discern facts from fiction. If I don't understand something - I'll ask. That is why I came here and opened this thread. I've no experience with how all this works and have a mediocre knowledge of nutrition.
If I hit the target - great. If not, well, I did my best and will keep doing it.
The problem, though, comes down to math and the room to create the deficit to lose that amount of weight with the TDEE you likely have at your current size.
To lose a kilo a week, you need to eat approximately 1,000 calories less than you're burning daily while still keeping up your activity levels.
Can you do that without hitting a wall? I don't think so. There's a danger that comes with underfueling activity and the rebound that happens from that isn't pretty. Some of us have been there and can tell the tale of our struggles that happened from trying to diet too aggressively.
Just don't do it.
It's okay to want to be fitter and be a smaller size. Just do it in a smart way, okay?7 -
Also if you have several illnesses aggressive weight loss might not be the best thing of course it depends on your illnesses. Are you on any medications that can slow weight loss.0
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Snowflake1968 wrote: »
@Snowflake1968
You have been insulting a lot of people.
It's woo as in bull s**t, bro science, WTF....
Well I guess I’ll stop using that! Lol thanks for the education.4 -
Snowflake1968 wrote: »Snowflake1968 wrote: »
@Snowflake1968
You have been insulting a lot of people.
It's woo as in bull s**t, bro science, WTF....
Well I guess I’ll stop using that! Lol thanks for the education.
dont feel bad. when it first came out, i thought the same LOL0 -
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I just like to see people stay strong and healthy while achieving their weight loss goals.
Oh, I am strong, don't worry. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday and I told him about my goals and how I want to be 'fit, lean, and strong' and he replied 'you're already strong, fit and lean you shall be'.
It's true, I am quite strong already, I don't necessarily like it, but that is the matter of things (I always wanted to be more of a Grace Kelly type of girl, but that's not happening ).
Funny thing is, that same friend advised me not to weigh food and not to count calories at all because he thinks it makes people miserable, unhappy, and leads them to a path of eating disorders. And he's a certified trainer.GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »
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It's okay to want to be fitter and be a smaller size. Just do it in a smart way, okay?
Thank you for your words and for worrying. I promise I'll be smart about it.Also if you have several illnesses aggressive weight loss might not be the best thing of course it depends on your illnesses. Are you on any medications that can slow weight loss.
None of the issues I have interfere with losing weight. I am taking antihistamines but that's about it.
Thank you, everyone, for taking your time to reply to this thread!2
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