Burning 5000 calories a day?
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So that's what everything I do on average adds up to this past week. I really don't want to eat more. Im eating about 2500cals/day. So, for all you CICO folks. This is going to be nuts right?
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If you’re really doing that every day, you would be losing an average of 5lb a week. (Not really sustainable!)
If this is not the case then either your intake is more than you suggest or your burn is lower than you think. (Probably the latter unless you’re some sort of elite sportsperson in training).5 -
I would suggest burning 5000 calories a day will increase your fitness but reduce your health. If you don't need to exercise that amount it would be advisable to not.
Plus it's not even about CICO that's the issue. Training at those levels will be flooding your body with cortisol. Even if you were eating enough calories to negate the calories out, cortisol will still be eating away at your lean mass - not good.
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What are doing each day to average 5000? How are you calculating that?
You don't want to eat more because... what is your goal?6 -
If you are truly burning that much, I would highly recommend fueling adequately. Why don't you want to eat more? That part I don't understand.5
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NickyGee2015 wrote: »So that's what everything I do on average adds up to this past week. I really don't want to eat more. Im eating about 2500cals/day. So, for all you CICO folks. This is going to be nuts right?
I would suggest you post what you think you're doing that's good for 5K calorie burn per day(average). You're probably no place close to that.10 -
Trying to maintain that, or doing it for any length of time is nuts, yes. A couple of days here or there isn't a big deal.5
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stanmann571 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »So that's what everything I do on average adds up to this past week. I really don't want to eat more. Im eating about 2500cals/day. So, for all you CICO folks. This is going to be nuts right?
I would suggest you post what you think you're doing that's good for 5K calorie burn per day(average). You're probably no place close to that.
weight: 250 lbs
1-2 hours of lifting
20000-25000 steps/day
working 13 hours (digging, landscaping, concrete work)
20-30 min run
did a manual calculation and a fitness tracker one about 4800-5100 calories0 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »
Do/would you allow yourself "junk" foods? IMO, 4000 cals is pretty easy if you allow yourself more calorie-dense foods... and there are some damn good calorie dense "junk" foods out there.6 -
kathrynhoward84 wrote: »If you’re really doing that every day, you would be losing an average of 5lb a week. (Not really sustainable!)
If this is not the case then either your intake is more than you suggest or your burn is lower than you think. (Probably the latter unless you’re some sort of elite sportsperson in training).
Well just college football! But the majority of burning comes from my job, I have two and I'm either walking, digging or something that requires me to move I sit and sleep for about 7 hours/day0 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.0 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »
Do/would you allow yourself "junk" foods? IMO, 4000 cals is pretty easy if you allow yourself more calorie-dense foods... and there are some damn good calorie dense "junk" foods out there.
Well im actually trying it today. im also in ketosis, so i want to slowly do things like take in more carbs, protein, fats and distribute it properly so i dont kick my self out. it's going to take some trial and error but i obviously dont want to lose 5 lbs in a week. Im good with 1-2 and even 0 some weeks. I've lost 3 in the past week but it's only been 1 week and not enough time for me to determine that it will be an every week thing. ive lost 5 pounds of fat on a caloric surplus just from my composition changing but also gained 2 of muscle plus water
wow i say week a lot.4 -
This is me during my bulking stages. Have to take it up to 5-6k a day. Gets tiring lol1
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NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.
so long story but ill try to keep it short.
Novemeber 2017 265 went on a lower carb diet
Jan 2018 I was 255. stress plus poor diet and Im from canada so a trip to florida meant olive garden and all the fun american places. plus a 2 day car trip of no excersise. I ended up going up to 293 in a very short time.
march 3 292, started keto again but now i had time and money to really focus on it. First week I lost 14 pounds second week I lost 10 and its been much more linear since id say april 1st because im now 251 (~17 pounds in 2 months). i want to get to 230 so I can compete in a lower class for powerlifting.0 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »So that's what everything I do on average adds up to this past week. I really don't want to eat more. Im eating about 2500cals/day. So, for all you CICO folks. This is going to be nuts right?
I would suggest you post what you think you're doing that's good for 5K calorie burn per day(average). You're probably no place close to that.
weight: 250 lbs
1-2 hours of lifting
20000-25000 steps/day
working 13 hours (digging, landscaping, concrete work)
20-30 min run
did a manual calculation and a fitness tracker one about 4800-5100 calories
So that's a 2500 calorie burn. in addition to 2500 BMR.
That's a lot more reasonable.
You should try to get to 3000-3500 at least if you're going to sustain that level of effort.
Especially if you plan to continue to be competitive in powerlifting.
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NickyGee2015 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »So that's what everything I do on average adds up to this past week. I really don't want to eat more. Im eating about 2500cals/day. So, for all you CICO folks. This is going to be nuts right?
I would suggest you post what you think you're doing that's good for 5K calorie burn per day(average). You're probably no place close to that.
weight: 250 lbs
1-2 hours of lifting
20000-25000 steps/day
working 13 hours (digging, landscaping, concrete work)
20-30 min run
did a manual calculation and a fitness tracker one about 4800-5100 calories
If you use MFP to set your goal choose the most active. Log your exercise and eat at least a portion of those calories.
With your size and activity you are going to have to eat more to fuel your body.
Eat more calorie dense foods.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods/p1
If you don't want to eat so much be less active.0 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.
so long story but ill try to keep it short.
Novemeber 2017 265 went on a lower carb diet
Jan 2018 I was 255. stress plus poor diet and Im from canada so a trip to florida meant olive garden and all the fun american places. plus a 2 day car trip of no excersise. I ended up going up to 293 in a very short time.
march 3 292, started keto again but now i had time and money to really focus on it. First week I lost 14 pounds second week I lost 10 and its been much more linear since id say april 1st because im now 251 (~17 pounds in 2 months). i want to get to 230 so I can compete in a lower class for powerlifting.
So you are trying to do rapid weight loss? How fast do you need to get to 230?NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How are you able to sustain your activity level/work and powerlifting? You probably won't for very long.
To get more calories in, you don't need alot of fridge room. Peanut butter will do the trick.
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NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.
so long story but ill try to keep it short.
Novemeber 2017 265 went on a lower carb diet
Jan 2018 I was 255. stress plus poor diet and Im from canada so a trip to florida meant olive garden and all the fun american places. plus a 2 day car trip of no excersise. I ended up going up to 293 in a very short time.
march 3 292, started keto again but now i had time and money to really focus on it. First week I lost 14 pounds second week I lost 10 and its been much more linear since id say april 1st because im now 251 (~17 pounds in 2 months). i want to get to 230 so I can compete in a lower class for powerlifting.
So you are trying to do rapid weight loss? How fast do you need to get to 230?NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How are you able to sustain your activity level/work and powerlifting? You probably won't for very long.
To get more calories in, you don't need alot of fridge room. Peanut butter will do the trick.
I consume about 750mg caffeine/day. My energy levels are always high, especially the more weight i lose. Its easier moving and doing daily activities, 40 pounds lighter. Peanut butter is a good idea tho. I was told that my workouts would suffer from keto and fat loss but they really haven't. I don't know if I am just lucky or what I really do not know. All I've had to do is change the way I train but my lifts and numbers are not suffering. I'm hitting the same SBD at 252 then I was at 290, and i'm pretty sure that isnt normal and no I am not juicing or anything.1 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.
so long story but ill try to keep it short.
Novemeber 2017 265 went on a lower carb diet
Jan 2018 I was 255. stress plus poor diet and Im from canada so a trip to florida meant olive garden and all the fun american places. plus a 2 day car trip of no excersise. I ended up going up to 293 in a very short time.
march 3 292, started keto again but now i had time and money to really focus on it. First week I lost 14 pounds second week I lost 10 and its been much more linear since id say april 1st because im now 251 (~17 pounds in 2 months). i want to get to 230 so I can compete in a lower class for powerlifting.
So you are trying to do rapid weight loss? How fast do you need to get to 230?NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How are you able to sustain your activity level/work and powerlifting? You probably won't for very long.
To get more calories in, you don't need alot of fridge room. Peanut butter will do the trick.
I consume about 750mg caffeine/day. My energy levels are always high, especially the more weight i lose. Its easier moving and doing daily activities, 40 pounds lighter. Peanut butter is a good idea tho. I was told that my workouts would suffer from keto and fat loss but they really haven't. I don't know if I am just lucky or what I really do not know. All I've had to do is change the way I train but my lifts and numbers are not suffering. I'm hitting the same SBD at 252 then I was at 290, and i'm pretty sure that isnt normal and no I am not juicing or anything.
Sounds like burn out might be in your future. But good luck with all of that and your power lifting competition.
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NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.
so long story but ill try to keep it short.
Novemeber 2017 265 went on a lower carb diet
Jan 2018 I was 255. stress plus poor diet and Im from canada so a trip to florida meant olive garden and all the fun american places. plus a 2 day car trip of no excersise. I ended up going up to 293 in a very short time.
march 3 292, started keto again but now i had time and money to really focus on it. First week I lost 14 pounds second week I lost 10 and its been much more linear since id say april 1st because im now 251 (~17 pounds in 2 months). i want to get to 230 so I can compete in a lower class for powerlifting.
So you are trying to do rapid weight loss? How fast do you need to get to 230?NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How are you able to sustain your activity level/work and powerlifting? You probably won't for very long.
To get more calories in, you don't need alot of fridge room. Peanut butter will do the trick.
I consume about 750mg caffeine/day. My energy levels are always high, especially the more weight i lose. Its easier moving and doing daily activities, 40 pounds lighter. Peanut butter is a good idea tho. I was told that my workouts would suffer from keto and fat loss but they really haven't. I don't know if I am just lucky or what I really do not know. All I've had to do is change the way I train but my lifts and numbers are not suffering. I'm hitting the same SBD at 252 then I was at 290, and i'm pretty sure that isnt normal and no I am not juicing or anything.
Sounds like burn out might be in your future. But good luck with all of that and your power lifting competition.
I tend to agree, and at that pace and deficit, it's a burnout that probably will take a month or more to recover from, and one that you won't even realize you're in until it's way too late.5 -
What do you mean by burnout? How does this happen?0
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everything seems fine to everyone, Until it isnt. Especially with dieting and stuff im not sure what all is involved in it but for me it was a mix of new diet excitement and commitment, MY body running off its reserves just fine for a while, And a slight bit of stupid delusional thinking about maybe im different. Everything was amazing, Until it wasnt. Your body will switch into its "survival" mode and start fighting you and pulling its energy from non necessary functions, Like hair and nails and even muscles. My cravings got beyond intense, Suddenly began feelign sick and starving constantly. Took me months to get back to a place i could even be in a maintenance range let alone deficit. If your starving your body it WILL fight back, Dont think your different because your really not. It will be fine, Until its not.
And like i said your body wont hesitate to eat its muscle. Your heart is a muscle, And if your an athlete i imagine you want your muscles to stay as much as possible. It really is easier to just eat an appropriate level and skip all the time required in a hard lesson learned. Let us share our hard lessons learned with you to save you alot of damn effort and time lol.
edit to add: Id compare the cravings to being REALLY hungry and surrounded by your favorite food. After a REALLY long day your willpower has diminished your hungry your commitment is drained and you just dont care about goals anymore you just have to dig in and nothing else really matters to you at that point. Its a dangerous loop to get yourself into.6 -
stanmann571 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How fast have you been losing? What are your goals?
Are you limiting the types of foods you eat? You can make high calorie smoothies if need be. Opening up your eating window can help too.
so long story but ill try to keep it short.
Novemeber 2017 265 went on a lower carb diet
Jan 2018 I was 255. stress plus poor diet and Im from canada so a trip to florida meant olive garden and all the fun american places. plus a 2 day car trip of no excersise. I ended up going up to 293 in a very short time.
march 3 292, started keto again but now i had time and money to really focus on it. First week I lost 14 pounds second week I lost 10 and its been much more linear since id say april 1st because im now 251 (~17 pounds in 2 months). i want to get to 230 so I can compete in a lower class for powerlifting.
So you are trying to do rapid weight loss? How fast do you need to get to 230?NickyGee2015 wrote: »
How are you able to sustain your activity level/work and powerlifting? You probably won't for very long.
To get more calories in, you don't need alot of fridge room. Peanut butter will do the trick.
I consume about 750mg caffeine/day. My energy levels are always high, especially the more weight i lose. Its easier moving and doing daily activities, 40 pounds lighter. Peanut butter is a good idea tho. I was told that my workouts would suffer from keto and fat loss but they really haven't. I don't know if I am just lucky or what I really do not know. All I've had to do is change the way I train but my lifts and numbers are not suffering. I'm hitting the same SBD at 252 then I was at 290, and i'm pretty sure that isnt normal and no I am not juicing or anything.
Sounds like burn out might be in your future. But good luck with all of that and your power lifting competition.
I tend to agree, and at that pace and deficit, it's a burnout that probably will take a month or more to recover from, and one that you won't even realize you're in until it's way too late.
Some people learn from others experiences; some people have to learn from their own experiences. Some people never learn.5 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »everything seems fine to everyone, Until it isnt. Especially with dieting and stuff im not sure what all is involved in it but for me it was a mix of new diet excitement and commitment, MY body running off its reserves just fine for a while, And a slight bit of stupid delusional thinking about maybe im different. Everything was amazing, Until it wasnt. Your body will switch into its "survival" mode and start fighting you and pulling its energy from non necessary functions, Like hair and nails and even muscles. My cravings got beyond intense, Suddenly began feelign sick and starving constantly. Took me months to get back to a place i could even be in a maintenance range let alone deficit. If your starving your body it WILL fight back, Dont think your different because your really not. It will be fine, Until its not.
And like i said your body wont hesitate to eat its muscle. Your heart is a muscle, And if your an athlete i imagine you want your muscles to stay as much as possible. It really is easier to just eat an appropriate level and skip all the time required in a hard lesson learned. Let us share our hard lessons learned with you to save you alot of damn effort and time lol.
edit to add: Id compare the cravings to being REALLY hungry and surrounded by your favorite food. After a REALLY long day your willpower has diminished your hungry your commitment is drained and you just dont care about goals anymore you just have to dig in and nothing else really matters to you at that point. Its a dangerous loop to get yourself into.
I’m pretty young. I have a lot to experience and experiment with so for now I’ll take it easy! I’ve lowered caffeine so I don’t become depended and adjust my activity to my energy levels. Upped my calories a bit more and I cut my workout time down a bit. I can’t change my work schedule. It’s hard to cut hours from 3 jobs but I’m sure if I play around with it I’ll be okay. I’ve done more than this before and was still fine but it was only for a few months1 -
NickyGee2015 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »NickyGee2015 wrote: »So that's what everything I do on average adds up to this past week. I really don't want to eat more. Im eating about 2500cals/day. So, for all you CICO folks. This is going to be nuts right?
I would suggest you post what you think you're doing that's good for 5K calorie burn per day(average). You're probably no place close to that.
weight: 250 lbs
1-2 hours of lifting
20000-25000 steps/day
working 13 hours (digging, landscaping, concrete work)
20-30 min run
did a manual calculation and a fitness tracker one about 4800-5100 calories
Are you step counting while doing the manual work? if so your double counting those calories - discard them
On the 13hr day, how much of it is Active? discount your breaks and recalc
Your also not sleeping enough if you are working 13 hours, lifing 2 hrs and running. that only leaves 8.5 hours in which to commute to and from work. eat in the evening, shower etc
I would recalc your outgoings, and be more realistic
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I wouldn't try to lose that last 20 pounds of fat too fast. When is the meet? I've lost 8 pounds overnight for a meet as a 145lb woman. Just do a little water cut for the last few pounds. Nothing crazy.1
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