DL vs squat

lorrpb

Thank you!

sgt1372

lorrpb wrote: »

PS I do both DL and squats every weight training day, which is usually 3x week.

This shouldn't be a problem if you are not using max wts but, as mentioned by someone else above, you are using many of the same muscle groups when doing DLs & SQTs.

The only part of a DL which can be considered a "pull" is the very last part of the lift after you have raised the bar to mid-thigh mainly using your hips/glutes and then straighten up using your lower back which is a very small part of the lift.

So, if you are using max effort doing both DLs and SQTs, it would probably be better to do them on different days, (or at different times in the same day) to allow sufficient rest between them.

mutantspicy

lorrpb wrote: »

RMaxwell90 wrote: »

The movements are distincly different, but classifying any movement as a "push" or a "pull" is largely just semantics. Muscles can only stretch and contract. You can't push with a rope.

Coloqually, "pulling" movements are more posterior chain or back focused (deadlifts, rows etc..) and "pushing" movements are more anterior chain focused (high bar/front squats, bench pressing etc...).

I believe that the distinction is drawn more to facilitate a training split rather than being grounded in anatomical/kinesthetic differences.

This is mostly just an FYI and my view on it. Train both regularly and increase the load/volume over time and you'll do just fine

OK, I was just asking because an article said that a balanced workout was upper & lower with push and pull for each. The only pull exercises for lower body were DL and glute bridge/hip thruster. Just trying to understand what is meant because I often see these terms used on here. The upper body is a little more intuitive.

PS I do both DL and squats every weight training day, which is usually 3x week. These are the exercises that will help keep most people out of a nursing home!

I agree with Maxwell's post. I just wanted to add there is more than one type of "balanced" routine. What you are talking about sounds like an upper/lower split which is what I'm currently doing btw. However, you can also do PPL splits. Push day (upper), Pull day (upper), Leg day (maybex2) in these type of splits the Dead lift tends to get put on Pull day along with your pull ups and rows. Leg day is then able to focus on squat, but isn't specific to push or pull movements, you can add say RDL's and hip bridges and leg curls as an accessory. Helps to keep your squat and dead lift on separate days if you want to max out the big guys.

PS leg curls and/or glute ham raises(hard AF) are another pull option for legs, if you have access to a machine.