Cardio helps bring definiton?
justinkimcentral
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So theres a buzzfeed video called six pack in six weeks and the female got injured and couldnt do cardio because of her ankle and she said that she looked fatter and felt like she backtracked. The trainer said thats normal because she hasnt done her cardio. So she has been weight training but will the cardio just bring out definition by taking out the water weight? And what cardio in your opinion makes you breathless and sweat a lot, anything except jumping ones like squat jumps because i get cramps from those types 
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cardio helps decrease the overall fat layer. less fat easier to see the muscles17
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Cardio is great for health, fitness, adding to your calorie burn, some even find it enjoyable. In terms of bringing out definition... that will come down to lowering bodyfat and having enough muscle to show. Whether or not cardio can affect water weight I would imagine will be individual (many people actually hold on to water with exercise). While losing some water can help one look leaner/less bloated, it won't lead to definition if there is still too much fat to see the muscle under.10
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I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?5 -
She probably feels fatter because she did gain weight from eating the same amount despite exercising less.17
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justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?
Idrk that part its from utube but it seems harsh because she mentions that all she eats was spinach with chicken and training was probably the same except the cardio
You can rack up a lot by eating "spinach with chicken", and cardio burns more than weight lifting does. And people lie on YouTube.
She ate more than she burned. Period.7 -
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justinkimcentral wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?
Idrk that part its from utube but it seems harsh because she mentions that all she eats was spinach with chicken and training was probably the same except the cardio
You can rack up a lot by eating "spinach with chicken", and cardio burns more than weight lifting does. And people lie on YouTube.
She ate more than she burned. Period.
Weightlifting burns more i thought... unless its really intense hiit cardio
Nope. LISS burns calories most efficiently. Burst training, either weight lifting or HIIT burns much less efficiently because very few calories are burned during rest periods, and the work periods are very short.7 -
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justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?
Idrk that part its from utube but it seems harsh because she mentions that all she eats was spinach with chicken and training was probably the same except the cardio
You can rack up a lot by eating "spinach with chicken", and cardio burns more than weight lifting does. And people lie on YouTube.
She ate more than she burned. Period.
Weightlifting burns more i thought... unless its really intense hiit cardio
Nope. LISS burns calories most efficiently. Burst training, either weight lifting or HIIT burns much less efficiently because very few calories are burned during rest periods, and the work periods are very short.
But that takes like more time right? Like 3 hours compared to 30 minutes
30 minutes of LISS burns more calories than 30 minutes of HIIT or weightlifting. Assuming of course that you can actually do HIIT for 30 minutes.8 -
justinkimcentral wrote: »You guys can youtube the vid
I can also youtube vids about how the reptilian people secretly rule the world.
Show us something by someone reputable, and we'll discuss.13 -
stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?
Idrk that part its from utube but it seems harsh because she mentions that all she eats was spinach with chicken and training was probably the same except the cardio
You can rack up a lot by eating "spinach with chicken", and cardio burns more than weight lifting does. And people lie on YouTube.
She ate more than she burned. Period.
Weightlifting burns more i thought... unless its really intense hiit cardio
Nope. LISS burns calories most efficiently. Burst training, either weight lifting or HIIT burns much less efficiently because very few calories are burned during rest periods, and the work periods are very short.
But that takes like more time right? Like 3 hours compared to 30 minutes
30 minutes of LISS burns more calories than 30 minutes of HIIT or weightlifting. Assuming of course that you can actually do HIIT for 30 minutes.
I take it you mean "true HIIT"; some of the HIIT routines alternate between mid range effort and barely high effort. Actual HIIT that has the VO2 max business going on is really hard to do. I am not saying that as a braggart because it is too hard for me to do. If you can actually do it, you probably don't need it...0 -
or at least give us the video you are talking about because buzzfeed is of variable validity0
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im more concerned that you are calling anything you find on buzzfeed/youtube a credible source of information.7
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justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?
Idrk that part its from utube but it seems harsh because she mentions that all she eats was spinach with chicken and training was probably the same except the cardio
You can rack up a lot by eating "spinach with chicken", and cardio burns more than weight lifting does. And people lie on YouTube.
She ate more than she burned. Period.
Weightlifting burns more i thought... unless its really intense hiit cardio
Nope. LISS burns calories most efficiently. Burst training, either weight lifting or HIIT burns much less efficiently because very few calories are burned during rest periods, and the work periods are very short.
But that takes like more time right? Like 3 hours compared to 30 minutes
30 minutes of LISS burns more calories than 30 minutes of HIIT or weightlifting. Assuming of course that you can actually do HIIT for 30 minutes.
How....
Because with HIIT or weightlifting you're only working 1/4-1/3 of the time, the rest of the time you're resting/recovering. With LISS you're working continuously. Since you're not working out 3-4 times as hard during your work periods, it's simply mathematically impossible to get more out of HIIT than LISS. At best you're doing 20% more work, but only working 1/2 as much time wise. Of course since most HIIT sessions are more like 10-15 minutes, Now you're only working out for 4-5 minutes at 20% more.
The math just doesn't work out. Ever. And EPOC is only another 5-10%. so MAYBE 130% more than 12-15 minutes of LISS, but when you are comparing that with a 30 minute LISS session it will never add up.7 -
I suspect it's a mix of cardio, strength training, and genetics. I'm a walker. I shoot for 2 hours daily and have for months. My speed is between 3.5 and just under 4 mph depending on terrain, heat of the day, hydration, etc. I also strength train with lighter dumbbells (currently up to 20lbs on squats, 17.5 on lunges, 9lb ankle weights on bent-leg lifts; for the record, I've worked up to these levels and started considerably lighter).
There is definite muscle definition on my legs.
BUT...
I think you might be able to make a case that, since the legs carry the rest of the body, there's an inevitable strength aspect to it. I'm extrapolating from a medical condition I live with called "Chronic venous insufficiency". As explained to me, when I was at my heaviest weight, the veins in my legs collapsed under the weight of my upper body. Veins aren't muscles; I'm probably confusing a few things, but it's safe to say my legs have gotten stronger in part because I've increased my walking and the amount of time that they spend hauling my upper half around.
Because the same questions tend to crop up in new threads, the same answers tend to get posted, so by now I think we all know that you can't spot-reduce. The fat comes off from where it's going to come off and it varies. In my case, the fat tends to leave my legs relatively quickly. (I.E. the genetic component) Less fat means muscle is likelier to be noticeable.
But it's all interconnected and I'm not exactly going to cut out cardio or strength training to see what's having the greater effect.2 -
I've got far more definition in my legs from cycling - but it's taken years......
You sound horribly confused OP and seem to pick dreadful sources of information.
HIIT is short duration and low calorie burner.
Strength training is a low calorie burner.
Circuit training can be moderate to high but your duration is limited.
Steady state cardio can be anywhere from low to the highest you could personally achieve and the duration can be from short to all day long.
If you really want to maximise calorie burns (a bit of a sad reason IMHO) then go as hard as you can sustain the cardio of your choice for the amount of time you have available to you.
Just like athletes do in races, the ones that win are producing the most power and burning the most calories. It's why you don't see runners doing sprint/walk intervals in races!!3 -
justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »I'm confused.
What was her eating like before/after the injury?
What was her training like before/after the exercise?
Idrk that part its from utube but it seems harsh because she mentions that all she eats was spinach with chicken and training was probably the same except the cardio
You can rack up a lot by eating "spinach with chicken", and cardio burns more than weight lifting does. And people lie on YouTube.
She ate more than she burned. Period.
Weightlifting burns more i thought... unless its really intense hiit cardio
Nope. LISS burns calories most efficiently. Burst training, either weight lifting or HIIT burns much less efficiently because very few calories are burned during rest periods, and the work periods are very short.
But that takes like more time right? Like 3 hours compared to 30 minutes
30 minutes of LISS burns more calories than 30 minutes of HIIT or weightlifting. Assuming of course that you can actually do HIIT for 30 minutes.
How....
Just believe Stan. He's right.
Your best use of exercise time, if you purely want maximum overall calorie burn, it to take the time you have available and go as hard as you can continuously during that time (with a little warm up and cool down), but without going so hard that you're exhausted and drag through the rest of your day.
The process of HIIT is intervals: Higher burn, lower burn, alternating. The high isn't high enough to make up for the low, for anything but a pretty small total exercise time. Moreover, the cost (to your everyday energy level) is higher from doing HIIT, so you risk sapping calories from your everyday non-exercise energy expenditure (NEAT) because HIIT is more tiring. HIIT has slightly higher EPOC (afterburn) as a percentage of exercise calories, but the actual difference in the number of calories once you do the math is silly small.
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people race using the galloway method. i see it more and more
they run, their phone beeps, they walk...repeat5 -
people race using the galloway method. i see it more and more
they run, their phone beeps, they walk...repeat
Are they actually racing though or just doing "fun runs" or participating for the heck of it?
Not that I'll ever win anything or podium with my cycling, but when I'm racing, I'm racing...I'm not doing interval work.6 -
She was also doing a crap ton of ab work and strength training, but the goal WAS to get her to lose some weight. Her nutrition was fine, all macros and calories accounted for, but her ankle messed with a lot of the weight bearing ab work she was supposed to be doing (weighted hip thrusts, etc.). I'm sure that after doing very intense cardio/strength training every day for a couple of weeks and going to almost none, she just felt sluggish. She didn't gain weight, she just didn't continue losing as fast as she was before. FWIW, she was already eating pretty low cal (1200-1400/day) so there wasn't as much room for her to eat less.
This all being said from memory, I watched the video 5ever ago.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »justinkimcentral wrote: »You guys can youtube the vid
I can also youtube vids about how the reptilian people secretly rule the world.
Show us something by someone reputable, and we'll discuss.
Or something with a sample of more than one?
Come on people, where's your intellectual curiosity?1
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