"Lose weight with a doctor's supervision." LOL!
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A new dr is KEY!!! I had a crummy dr for about 2 minutes - called him "Dr Sunshine" - worst dr I've ever spoken to.
I applaud you for all your positive changes! I know they aren't all easy but isn't great when you realize just a few little tweaks can make a monsterous difference!
I agree they SHOULD know about all of this - especially if they're going to give you a hard time about it. You're supposed to work TOGETHER as a team - you might even think about looking into a women's center instead of just your run of the mill PCP.
Good luck on your quest for a dr!0 -
I know the feeling. Recently I went to see my NP. She is faster to get an appt with than the Dr (same office though). The nurse weighed me in and all he could say is "Oh you need to start walking more, especially right after dinner time." Okay dude if you knew how much effort I put into exercising every day he wouldn't be saying that. All my NP wanted to do to sign me up for a diet program they run in their office for their patients, yea at 400 dollars a pop. I was frustrated to say the least.0
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Most doctors don't know ANYTHING about nutrition. I once went to a doctor at 360 pounds and a BMI of 60....that's SUPER morbidly obese! and I told him I was really struggling with losing weight and he told me I didn't really need to worry about losing weight because I was healthy with all optimal bloodwork (liver enzymes, glucose, cholesterol, etc). WTF???? I had a BMI of SIXTY.... SIXTY!!!!!! I learned then not to rely on my doctor for anything concerning my weight.. and apparently that's how many of them like it.. Yes a lot of them are GREAT at telling you to lose weight but not so great at helping you accomplish it. Heck, I recently just went down to Mexico and had bariatric surgery without even consulting with my PCP because I have so little confidence in general practitioners knowledge in this area.. I just did the surgery and went in at three months post op told the doctor exactly what I expected from her and what I needed her to do to follow up. She ran my blood work, took all my vitals, checked my incision sites, etc told me I was perfectly healthy and scheduled a follow up for 9 months down the road .
Also your doctor was really being an *kitten* for not listening to you and for pointing out how far you have yet to go. That Doctor works for YOU. I think she needs to be reminded of that fact. I'm not saying to switch doctors... but you definitely need to give her a reminder about how you expect to be treated.
You are doing a great job OP. Keep doing what you're doing.. Clearly you're doing it right!0 -
Yup..New doc.I left mine finally after I came in to tell her I had a swollen breast. After examining me, she told me I had one breast larger than the other and asked me if it had always been that way. Argh It was WHY I came in...never listened ever. I know doctors are busy, but it seems yours is consistently not giving you what you need.0
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Yep, definitely get a new doctor! I've gone through several, before I found one that meshed with my personality. My kids have had three pediatricians, before I found one that I absolutely love. You're paying for a service and you have every right to shop around for a doctor who you like
And congrats on your weight loss so far!0 -
That is so sad! I had a surgeon once who didn't listen to what I said and it just felt like such a huge betrayal, since patients are already in a vulnerable position.
I agree that you should look for someone better. There are lots of amazing doctors out there--it can just be hard to find them.0 -
I didn't read through everyones comments so sorry if I am repeating, but here are my thoughts:
Besides finding a new primary care doctor, one who understand you, listens, and can see you trying to improve your lifestyle, you should consider seeing both a nutritionist and a personal trainer. A nutritionist will look at your diet, and guide you along the way and a personal trainer should be familiar with how your weight affects your body during exercise.
As far as losing weight too fast, that's not true either... the recommended 1-2 pounds is true when you are a few pounds over weight, but the more you weigh the more you;ll lose at first... it will taper down as you weigh less.
Best of Luck, I added you as a friend so we could motivate each other!0 -
I would say you need a new doctor. There are too many doctors out there like that and it's very irritating. I would change doctors and maybe see a nutritionist or a fitness specialist to see if they know of a exercise plan you could work with that will fit your changing needs. Good job and good luck, BTW.0
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You may be able to find more help with exercises you can do with a trainer at a local gym. Unfortunately the days of the family doctor that paid attention to you and knew your history and your whole family for that matter are pretty much gone. Now we have factory piece work doctors who patch 'em up and get 'em out.0
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First, I'm curious, did you get an answer about exercise or did all of that make you completely forget about asking?
I would definitely look for a new doctor. The fact that her fitness/nutrition education isn't up to par isn't the problem, because as others have stated, that's fairly common (and that's what specialists are for). However the fact that she pretty much ignored you and your concerns is unacceptable.
More docs should be like Ed's and be open and up front about what they know and don't know. My doc is like this too. Her memory's not always great (she gets me confused with another patient) but a couple gentle reminders or a peek at my chart and she's back on track. She is thrilled that I've lost the weight and VERY happy that I've kept it off so long. She's great at explaining things like why my Vitamin D is low even if I'm outside a lot. And the thing I love the best is that she doesn't push drugs. Having migraine issues? Try taking magnesium. LOVE HER!0 -
First congrats on your progress, I started out about the same weight so I know you can do it with your great attitude. Dump the doc. True story. Years ago my wife found a lump in her breast. Since cancer seems to run in her family she went to doc of course. When he examined her he told her that women over react about breast cancer and she should go home and wait six months to see if it got bigger than make another appointment. She did not have to say a word. His two nurses that were in the room tore into so loud you could hear them out in the waiting. They called him every thing but a doctor. They probably lost their jobs but the woman in the waiting room cheered them. Oh by the way next doc ran tests and everything was ok.:bigsmile:0
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OP:
You have an awesome attitude.0 -
Time for a new doctor!
Just want to clear up that I think you meant TDEE not BMR... BMR is what you need to just survive! TDEE is what it takes to maintain weight.
I sure hope the doctor knows that! If not, get out of there asap! lol
Keep on going! You can do it. Enjoy and indulge once in a while, too!0 -
Sorry about your horrible experience, but wow...You are on fire, girl! Keep up the fantastic work, trust your instincts and...get a new doctor. :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:0
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Wow ... your Doctor sounds like she just doesn't care.
As others have said, seek a new physician & find yourself a dietician who cares. Your (hopefully) soon to be ex-physician seems to have lost touch with her patients, and that is just plain sad. :frown:
Also, small things make a big difference. Walking on a trail, great, easy workout. Decide how far you want to go, and that you know you can handle without feeling weak, tired, etc... (always be sure to let people know where you are going, no matter what. You just never know if injury could happen and you may need help.)
Awesome attitude though, and good job at keeping it from escalating. I think I would have been a little less friendly. :flowerforyou:0 -
Most doctors don't know ANYTHING about nutrition. I once went to a doctor at 360 pounds and a BMI of 60....that's SUPER morbidly obese! and I told him I was really struggling with losing weight and he told me I didn't really need to worry about losing weight because I was healthy with all optimal bloodwork (liver enzymes, glucose, cholesterol, etc). WTF???? I had a BMI of SIXTY.... SIXTY!!!!!! I learned then not to rely on my doctor for anything concerning my weight.. and apparently that's how many of them like it.. Yes a lot of them are GREAT at telling you to lose weight but not so great at helping you accomplish it. Heck, I recently just went down to Mexico and had bariatric surgery without even consulting with my PCP because I have so little confidence in general practitioners knowledge in this area.. I just did the surgery and went in at three months post op told the doctor exactly what I expected from her and what I needed her to do to follow up. She ran my blood work, took all my vitals, checked my incision sites, etc told me I was perfectly healthy and scheduled a follow up for 9 months down the road .
Also your doctor was really being an *kitten* for not listening to you and for pointing out how far you have yet to go. That Doctor works for YOU. I think she needs to be reminded of that fact. I'm not saying to switch doctors... but you definitely need to give her a reminder about how you expect to be treated.
You are doing a great job OP. Keep doing what you're doing.. Clearly you're doing it right!0 -
First, I'm curious, did you get an answer about exercise or did all of that make you completely forget about asking?
I would definitely look for a new doctor. The fact that her fitness/nutrition education isn't up to par isn't the problem, because as others have stated, that's fairly common (and that's what specialists are for). However the fact that she pretty much ignored you and your concerns is unacceptable.
More docs should be like Ed's and be open and up front about what they know and don't know. My doc is like this too. Her memory's not always great (she gets me confused with another patient) but a couple gentle reminders or a peek at my chart and she's back on track. She is thrilled that I've lost the weight and VERY happy that I've kept it off so long. She's great at explaining things like why my Vitamin D is low even if I'm outside a lot. And the thing I love the best is that she doesn't push drugs. Having migraine issues? Try taking magnesium. LOVE HER!
Oh, I totally didn't even get to ask. She told me I need to be working out 3 to 4 times a week, which I already knew. She's so off-putting that you don't even wanna talk to her. She didn't even ask me what I was doing or if I was doing anything. She just went into a lecture about what I need to do and when I told her, "Thanks. I've already been doing that for a couple months.", she said, "Well, at least you're making SOME positive changes." Really, lady? Omg.0 -
I appreciate each and every one of your comments and I have read them all. I wasn't really expecting a lot because I had read on here that doctors usually don't know about weight loss. I know I can do it without her help but I do often hear you should be monitored so I was concerned about that. I only go to her because she's been my doctor for like 10 years now and I don't have insurance and I know I can afford her. But I'm done with it. If I feel I need guidance, I'll scrape money together to see a dietrician. What I'm doing is working fine, so I'll just keep it up.
I was just so irritated when I left her today and I've read here a million times 1500 is probably too low for me. I knew you guys would probably understand my frustration. Thanks so much for the support and the adds.0 -
First congrats on your progress, I started out about the same weight so I know you can do it with your great attitude. Dump the doc. True story. Years ago my wife found a lump in her breast. Since cancer seems to run in her family she went to doc of course. When he examined her he told her that women over react about breast cancer and she should go home and wait six months to see if it got bigger than make another appointment. She did not have to say a word. His two nurses that were in the room tore into so loud you could hear them out in the waiting. They called him every thing but a doctor. They probably lost their jobs but the woman in the waiting room cheered them. Oh by the way next doc ran tests and everything was ok.:bigsmile:
I'm glad she was okay! I'm glad his nurses got on him too. I'm probably over paranoid about cancer but half my family has died from it so I'd probably get arrested for assault if the doctor said that to me. Haha.0 -
First off, that woman is a total B. Secondly, congratulations on your progress! That's wonderful! Third - you have a wonderful attitude and seem to really know what end is up. I'm sorry you had to deal with that, but please keep your chin up and keep moving forward. Also, find a new doctor that is interested in you and not just giving a lecture.0
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