Not losing weight on ketos
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cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
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chelssyy98 wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »18 days is nothing. Give yourself more time.
How much do you weight/how tall are you. You might find that you can actually eat more than 1200kcals and still lose weight. That should only really be used if you're very short/currently weigh not very much. I'm assuming your BF is taller than you and weighs more, so of course he's going to lose weight faster if you're eating the same.chelssyy98 wrote: »That is true, lucky him😃 and hes eating the same foods but think he’s having bigger portions aha! Maybe I will increase the HIIT to 4 times a week and see if that helps, I've always struggled with exercise!
This worries me. You're saying that you're weighing everything, and that you're eating the same, but then you're saying he's probably eating larger portions. That uncertainty sounds like you might not be being as accurate as you think you are.
Make sure you include everything. If it ends up in your mouth, log it. Remember that packet servings can be tricky, double check the weight on packets with what you've got out. And that that matches the correct state. The classic example is weighing food when cooked, but inputting the amount as raw. With meat (for example), it will lose water when cooked and so you'll be underlogging the amount of calories for that food.
It might be helpful if you opened up your diary.
Fair enough, but you can't compare yourself to him them.
Ah, it's generally better practice to log raw food over cooked. It's normally considered more accurate. You might find you're under logging calories and eating more calories than you think you are. As you're on keto you're probably not eating things like rice or pasta (which often show calories as cooked on the packet) pretty much everything you'll be eating will show calories as raw (or as packaged). Check your labels and make sure you're logging in the same state as what it says.
Also, how much do you weigh? How tall are you? Open your diary.
Breakfast- tea or coffee
Lunch- 30g peanuts, sugar free jelly pot and cheese string
Dinner- low carb vegetable with meat aha
(I can't help you with opening your diary, I don't actually know how to do it myself haha)
At that weight/height you should definitely be losing if you're really only eating 1200kcals. If you're really as active as you say, you should be losing a lot.
Both veggies and meat often weigh less when cooked than raw, so that might be where your problem is. Try logging raw as opposed to cooked. Also, remember to give yourself some time. 18 days really isn't a long time, and sometimes it can just take a while for the scales to budge. Keep an eye out for non scale related differences. You may be losing fat, but not be losing lbs. Measure your waist, hips and bust. How do your clothes fit. Take a picture of yourself and compare. These are great ways to keep an eye on how things are going without fixating on the number on the scale
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cindytoronto wrote: »I am sorry that you are struggling. The food that you say that you eat every day doesn’t look like it adds up to anywhere near 1200 calories and yet you say that you are not losing any weight. You also mention that a few years ago you were eating 500 calories a day and weighed 95 pounds. It sounds like you have a disordered way of eating and could probably benefit from talking with your doctor or a therapist. I wish you luck with finding a healthy way to eat.
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Everything I was going to mention has already been said:
Exercise can cause some water retention if it is new. You might be losing fat but gained water. Hormones can affect things, and so can ketogenic electrolyte needs - a tape measure it pictures is often the way to go. And be extra careful with logging... Plus you might want to try harder to hit your protein goals. The example of foods you gave was very low.
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chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
I think I could count days you've actually eaten 1200 cals on one hand. You eat a lot of processed, salty food so you could be holding a lot of fluid. If you think your diet is ok, or in any way normal or healthy, I would suggest getting some help from a professional (dietician and/or therapist)8 -
I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?5
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Everything I was going to mention has already been said:
Exercise can cause some water retention if it is new. You might be losing fat but fined water. Hormones can affect things, and so can ketogenic electrolyte needs - a tape measure it pictures is often the way to go. And be extra careful with logging... Plus you might want to try harder to hit your protein goals. The example of foods you gave was very low.
Good luck.
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L1zardQueen wrote: »I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
I think I could count days you've actually eaten 1200 cals on one hand. You eat a lot of processed, salty food so you could be holding a lot of fluid. If you think your diet is ok, or in any way normal or healthy, I would suggest getting some help from a professional (dietician and/or therapist)
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chelssyy98 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?
Ah, i get it. You had a half slice of cheese.3 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?
Ah, i get it. You had a half slice of cheese.
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The keto brownie you ate on Sunday, did you make that? Did you use the recipe builder?0
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chelssyy98 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
I think I could count days you've actually eaten 1200 cals on one hand. You eat a lot of processed, salty food so you could be holding a lot of fluid. If you think your diet is ok, or in any way normal or healthy, I would suggest getting some help from a professional (dietician and/or therapist)
For me, I focus on meat, seafood, eggs, nuts, seeds, full fat dairy (cheese, 10% plain yopurt), vegetables and berries. The veggies I eat includes greens (romaine, spinach, bok choy, etc), celery, broccoli, cauliflower, peppers, cucumbers, mushrooms and a=some root veggies in moderation like onion, carrots, parsnips, turnips, and a small bit of potato.
I find eating this low carb does require more cooking for meals since most ready to eat meals are higher in carbs.2 -
chelssyy98 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
I think I could count days you've actually eaten 1200 cals on one hand. You eat a lot of processed, salty food so you could be holding a lot of fluid. If you think your diet is ok, or in any way normal or healthy, I would suggest getting some help from a professional (dietician and/or therapist)
But you still might be retaining water so that's not necessarily true.
If you are finding it difficult to find food low in carbs (or to find low carb foods that you enjoy), you know you don't actually need to eat keto/low carb to lose weight? just a calorie deficit. It's just one of many ways to help manage a calorie deficit, unless you're eating low carb for medical reasons.3 -
chelssyy98 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?
looks like a lot of entries you are using are incorrect. for the sausages yesterday you have 2 sausages logged. how many grams were those sausages? food packaging can be off by up to 20% per serving.so those sausages could be more or less calories than the 260 calories for the 2 .Birds eye - Burgers with onion, 1 burger 110 calories? did the burger weight what the label states? most often things like that weigh more than the package states.
like my protein bars says 60g is 190 calories. most of them weigh 63g or more. I had one weigh 68g. thats extra calories right there. a slice of cheese should be more than 10g. its going to be more than 25 calories per slice one package says a slice is 25g for 104kcal and thats for tesco sliced mild cheddar. so there you would be off 79 calories. see how easy it is to eaat more than you think if you dont weigh everything or use correct entries? meats are to be weighed frozen or raw unless there is a cooked option on the label for calories
also say for chips/crisp if something says 21g or about 14 chips. weigh out the chips,21 grams can be 12 or less chips/crisps(I didnt see it on your diary just using that as an example) as for your diary it shows you eating less than 1200 calories per day which Im willing to bet once you start weighing everything and using correct entries you may be at or over the 1200. as for doing hiit more times a week. true hiit should not be done that often as its too much stress on the body. too much stress can also mean water retention and can hinder weight loss.6 -
One thing that has caught me on occasion is meat. You say you weigh after cooking. Make sure the entry you use in the database is for cooked weight not raw. That can really throw you off. Also be sure you count any fat you use to prepare it.4
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chelssyy98 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
I think I could count days you've actually eaten 1200 cals on one hand. You eat a lot of processed, salty food so you could be holding a lot of fluid. If you think your diet is ok, or in any way normal or healthy, I would suggest getting some help from a professional (dietician and/or therapist)
For me, I focus on meat, seafood, eggs, nuts, seeds, full fat dairy (cheese, 10% plain yopurt), vegetables and berries. The veggies I eat includes greens (romaine, spinach, bok choy, etc), celery, broccoli, cauliflower, peppers, cucumbers, mushrooms and a=some root veggies in moderation like onion, carrots, parsnips, turnips, and a small bit of potato.
I find eating this low carb does require more cooking for meals since most ready to eat meals are higher in carbs.
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?
looks like a lot of entries you are using are incorrect. for the sausages yesterday you have 2 sausages logged. how many grams were those sausages? food packaging can be off by up to 20% per serving.so those sausages could be more or less calories than the 260 calories for the 2 .Birds eye - Burgers with onion, 1 burger 110 calories? did the burger weight what the label states? most often things like that weigh more than the package states.
like my protein bars says 60g is 190 calories. most of them weigh 63g or more. I had one weigh 68g. thats extra calories right there. a slice of cheese should be more than 10g. its going to be more than 25 calories per slice one package says a slice is 25g for 104kcal and thats for tesco sliced mild cheddar. so there you would be off 79 calories. see how easy it is to eaat more than you think if you dont weigh everything or use correct entries? meats are to be weighed frozen or raw unless there is a cooked option on the label for calories
also say for chips/crisp if something says 21g or about 14 chips. weigh out the chips,21 grams can be 12 or less chips/crisps(I didnt see it on your diary just using that as an example) as for your diary it shows you eating less than 1200 calories per day which Im willing to bet once you start weighing everything and using correct entries you may be at or over the 1200. as for doing hiit more times a week. true hiit should not be done that often as its too much stress on the body. too much stress can also mean water retention and can hinder weight loss.
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Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.5 -
chelssyy98 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »I saw 10 slices of cheese in your diary that equaled 25 calories?
looks like a lot of entries you are using are incorrect. for the sausages yesterday you have 2 sausages logged. how many grams were those sausages? food packaging can be off by up to 20% per serving.so those sausages could be more or less calories than the 260 calories for the 2 .Birds eye - Burgers with onion, 1 burger 110 calories? did the burger weight what the label states? most often things like that weigh more than the package states.
like my protein bars says 60g is 190 calories. most of them weigh 63g or more. I had one weigh 68g. thats extra calories right there. a slice of cheese should be more than 10g. its going to be more than 25 calories per slice one package says a slice is 25g for 104kcal and thats for tesco sliced mild cheddar. so there you would be off 79 calories. see how easy it is to eaat more than you think if you dont weigh everything or use correct entries? meats are to be weighed frozen or raw unless there is a cooked option on the label for calories
also say for chips/crisp if something says 21g or about 14 chips. weigh out the chips,21 grams can be 12 or less chips/crisps(I didnt see it on your diary just using that as an example) as for your diary it shows you eating less than 1200 calories per day which Im willing to bet once you start weighing everything and using correct entries you may be at or over the 1200. as for doing hiit more times a week. true hiit should not be done that often as its too much stress on the body. too much stress can also mean water retention and can hinder weight loss.
even some of the scanned entries are incorrect as they are input by users. I make sure that it matched the package especially the calories,carbs,protein,fat ,etc many people will make entries to suit them it seems too.so yeah weighing out all your solids and semi solids on a digital scale will ensure you are eating the right amount. when I first lost weight I gained half of it back because I didnt weigh my food. once I did I saw that I was eating more than I thought. its an eye opener. also no 2 slices,pieces,slabs,etc will be the same weight,often it will be different. some a big difference and some not so much. rarely do I find anything that weights less than it says. if you use a slice of cheese and only eat half. weigh that half and log the grams so if a slice is 25g and half weighs say 13 then take 13 and divide by 25 which gives you 0.52 of a serving. it will be more accurate that way.and once you get the hang of doing this it will take no time at all3 -
chelssyy98 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »First of all - IF in fact you were actually eating 1200 calories per day at your height and weight, you would have lost weight, so you're eating more than you think OR you have a serious medical illness. So see a doctor.
Second, you can't "ruin your metabolism." The metabolic adaptations that happen with rapid weight loss, do reverse themselves in a very short period of time, so cross that one off. Here's a discussion: Starvation Mode - Adaptive Thermogenesis and Weight Loss
Third, for us to be any help you do need to open your FOOD diary, and it will "let" you, here: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
^^scroll to the bottom, click "Public."
I think I could count days you've actually eaten 1200 cals on one hand. You eat a lot of processed, salty food so you could be holding a lot of fluid. If you think your diet is ok, or in any way normal or healthy, I would suggest getting some help from a professional (dietician and/or therapist)
Do you actually enjoy on keto, it sounds like the food choices isn't making you happy.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.cmriverside wrote: »Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.
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chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.cmriverside wrote: »Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.
There are no "right" foods. If you give up on "diets," you need to stop "dieting." It sounds like your mindset needs to change. While we all have a "diet" (the foods we normally eat), if you think about losing weight as a diet you have to do temporarily and then you can go back to normal, you're likely to gain weight again.
You may be more successful if you make changes you believe will be sustainable in maintenance. That includes both what/how you're eating as well as how much exercise you're doing. If you do a lot of exercise just to try to increase your weight loss, but then decrease that amount when reaching maintenance, you're then going to have to deal with finding your maintenance calories with less exercise, which, in my opinion, is more difficult than finding maintenance when you're activity level remains the same as it was during the loss phase.
All you need to lose weight is a calorie deficit. As a vegan, my diet is primarily carb based. I've lost around 70 pounds just fine and have entered maintenance. If you want to do keto for whatever reason, you might want to eat more "normally" while you do some research about foods that will fit into that lifestyle. Otherwise, I think you're going to continue to struggle.
Also, while I agree that you are probably not logging accurately and may be eating more than you think, the fact that you think both the logged amount and variety you are currently eating is healthy is worrisome, especially given your post about previously eating 500 calories and weighing 95 pounds.10 -
chelssyy98 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.cmriverside wrote: »Using raw meat entries for cooked meat can add 30% or more to you daily actual calories. A burger that is raw 100g and a burger that is cooked 100g is a huge difference. You could be eating 500+ calories per day too many just with the meat entries. Also, using scanned entries is another source for inaccuracy.
Here's a great thread for how to find "good" entries to use, so you can vet your choices:
How to use the USDA food Database + MFP food Database for accurate logging.
Why have you chosen Keto? If it's difficult for you, maybe it's not the best choice. Unless the foods on Keto are what you prefer to eat or you have a medical issue it may prove to just be too cumbersome.
How much actual research have you done about Keto? There are some nutritional deficiencies that are really common to this way of eating, and you need to be aware of those and make sure you are finding ways to meet those deficiencies before you cause yourself further problems.
I completely agree with all that @veganbaum said above.
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After reading everything, I can write with ~95% confidence that you're eating more than you think. The diary shows the inaccuracies and on the first page you said "I weigh everything" but later said you don't weigh packaged items. The good news is that you're eating at maintenance since you haven't said you gained weight. If you tighten up your logging, you'll definitely lose weight. Good luck!9
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Do consider if keto is a diet you want to continue after you've reached your goal weight. Eating the way you want to eat for the rest of your life is important during the diet as you learn portion control. If you're a volume eater, thus you'd like to have a lot of food on your plate and eat high volumes, then keto might not be for you.3
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FWIW, I am your height and got to my goal of 10 lbs in less than 2 months eating 1300-1400 calories a day on keto and also exercising. My diary is open. i eat a lot more and would not survive on no breakfast and peanuts. I am not sure why you’re not losing but definitely would make sure you are eating foods you can live on for however long it takes you to get to goal. Best of luck—sounds really frustrating.3
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Hit me up if you need some good keto-friendly recipes!!2
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