30 days on MFP
Junebug2022
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I’m kind of in a rut. 2 weeks in I was down 14 pounds, 2 weeks after that im up 2 pounds. I’m try to eat more food, trying to take 5,000 steps a day (stall around 4500), trying to lift weighs 3 times a week.
Trying to not throw the towel in. If I don’t see these pounds coming off it’s going to much harder to keep trying. 😓
My diary is open if you wanna help me out!
Im 6’1 460 and i dont think i should be trying this hard to lose a pound!
Trying to not throw the towel in. If I don’t see these pounds coming off it’s going to much harder to keep trying. 😓
My diary is open if you wanna help me out!
Im 6’1 460 and i dont think i should be trying this hard to lose a pound!
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I agree, don't try hard. Work smart. Educate yourself on how weightloss works.
Be patient. Stick to your calorie goal and be as accurate as you can when you log.4 -
I'm certain it took you far longer than 30 days to gain all that weight so it only makes sense that it will take you far longer than 30 days to lose it.
12-14lbs in a month is an incredible loss, even given your starting weight. Rather than being discouraged by how much you haven't lost, celebrate your success! You should be proud of what you have accomplished.
Be patient, understand that weight loss is not linear and fluctuations are normal, take measurements and photos to help you see progress even when the scale isn't moving and, most of all, keep at it. You can do this. Good luck to you!3 -
You will have some fluctuations, especially if the exercise is new. Also, if your muscles are sore from lifting, they are probably retaining water, so you will show an increase in the scale. Just stick with it and watch for a general downward trend, not necessarily a loss everyday.3
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If you're lifting weights, might I recommend measuring more than weighing? I lost over 10 inches, all while bouncing between 187-190 for a MONTH. It was so freaking stressful, but I felt so much better about it when I knew that continued small steps were working *behind the scenes* so to speak. It's taken me 7 months to lose 30 pounds, and yes, that's slow - but I've really been working on changing lifestyle - not just being on a diet. And for once, I'm actually down, consistently, and feeling pretty good about it. Don't get discouraged. Weight loss is a big pain in the butt; but in the long run - it's worth it.3
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AKTipsyCat wrote: »If you're lifting weights, might I recommend measuring more than weighing? I lost over 10 inches, all while bouncing between 187-190 for a MONTH. It was so freaking stressful, but I felt so much better about it when I knew that continued small steps were working *behind the scenes* so to speak. It's taken me 7 months to lose 30 pounds, and yes, that's slow - but I've really been working on changing lifestyle - not just being on a diet. And for once, I'm actually down, consistently, and feeling pretty good about it. Don't get discouraged. Weight loss is a big pain in the butt; but in the long run - it's worth it.
With all due respect, OP weighs 460 lbs. He needs to see some weight loss, not some change on a tape measure. Your experience, at your starting weight, really isn't applicable to someone in OP's situation.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »AKTipsyCat wrote: »If you're lifting weights, might I recommend measuring more than weighing? I lost over 10 inches, all while bouncing between 187-190 for a MONTH. It was so freaking stressful, but I felt so much better about it when I knew that continued small steps were working *behind the scenes* so to speak. It's taken me 7 months to lose 30 pounds, and yes, that's slow - but I've really been working on changing lifestyle - not just being on a diet. And for once, I'm actually down, consistently, and feeling pretty good about it. Don't get discouraged. Weight loss is a big pain in the butt; but in the long run - it's worth it.
With all due respect, OP weighs 460 lbs. He needs to see some weight loss, not some change on a tape measure. Your experience, at your starting weight, really isn't applicable to someone in OP's situation.
There can be periods of time where the scale doesn't change but the body shape does, regardless of starting weight. Measurements are a fine way to track progress along with weighing oneself. With all due respect, don't be so negative when people are being helpful with perfectly valid suggestions.
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born_of_fire74 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »AKTipsyCat wrote: »If you're lifting weights, might I recommend measuring more than weighing? I lost over 10 inches, all while bouncing between 187-190 for a MONTH. It was so freaking stressful, but I felt so much better about it when I knew that continued small steps were working *behind the scenes* so to speak. It's taken me 7 months to lose 30 pounds, and yes, that's slow - but I've really been working on changing lifestyle - not just being on a diet. And for once, I'm actually down, consistently, and feeling pretty good about it. Don't get discouraged. Weight loss is a big pain in the butt; but in the long run - it's worth it.
With all due respect, OP weighs 460 lbs. He needs to see some weight loss, not some change on a tape measure. Your experience, at your starting weight, really isn't applicable to someone in OP's situation.
There can be periods of time where the scale doesn't change but the body shape does, regardless of starting weight. Measurements are a fine way to track progress along with weighing oneself. With all due respect, don't be so negative when people are being helpful with perfectly valid suggestions.
If someone who weighs 460 lbs is seeing "progress" with a tape measure and no weight loss, the odds are extremely high that the "progress" is a result of user error with the tape measure (lots of people at any weight have problems being consistent in where they are taking their measurements, and at 460 lbs, it is likely that typical references like narrowest or widest areas at waist and hips may not be very helpful, and maintaining a consistent horizontal line as you measure around the torso will also be more than ordinarily difficult).3 -
Stick to your calorie goal, trust the process. If you're new to exercise your muscles are likely retaining water. You lost 14 lbs in a month, that's awesome.2
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Appreciate the comments, but....but im kinda feeling like my problems are more f-ed up than I thought after reading them. 😭😅
Idk, guess i keep on keeping on.0 -
Just be as consistent as you can and take it day by day, step by step. One thing that might help in the beginning is to not weigh yourself for a few weeks. For me the expectation to lose and then not seeing the numbers I feel like I've worked for gives my self-defeating side a reason to rise up and say eff it. Sometimes you have to tell that part of yourself to shut up so you can keep powering through. You'll have ups and downs, but in the end if you stick to your plan you'll get to a happier place. Keep at it. You've got this!1
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How often are you weighing yourself? What is your weighing procedure? Are you weighing in the morning before you eat or drink anything after you visit the restroom? Are you wearing the same clothes or no clothes?
Even with your larger deficit you should go ahead and read:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
I hope you are not spending too much money on the stuff in your Snack section because none of that will help you lose weight.
My thinking is that you should be down 6ish lbs of fat in the second 2 weeks if you are logging your food correctly. If so, you are up 8lbs of water which is possible but we should check some things (like your weighing procedure) to be sure. Technically speaking you would be down 8 lbs if MFP has your numbers right but we will get to that later.
ETA: You may see people say that weight loss is not linear and that is true because your weight can fluctuate up and down. At 460 though you would be really likely to see some loss in 2 weeks even if some of it is masked by water gain.
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1) Your logged calorie intake has been kind of all over the place, but you were definitely eating a lot less in the first half of the month than you have in the last week or so, so it's not surprising if you've had some extreme water fluctuations that have masked a slower rate of loss more recently.
2) Are you using a food scale to weigh your food? Don't take this question personally. Logging errors are extremely common. Measuring solids by volume (cups, tablespoons) or just eyeballing them, or even relying on labels on packaged foods to accurately reflect the servings can produce surprisingly large errors in calorie tracking. If you think you're eating 1900 to 2300 kcals a day five days a week, and 2800 to 3500 the other two days, but you're underestimating by 20% (not at all uncommon), your deficit could be a lot smaller than you think. (Although it's hard to imagine you're not still at a deficit -- your TDEE should be over 4000.)2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »(Although it's hard to imagine you're not still at a deficit -- your TDEE should be over 4000.)
This is my issue, i know about weighing my food, it got tedious the last time i was using this site. It took longer to make the food then to eat it. I didn’t want to go down that riad again so i was eating no where my recommended calories are at.
I been losing weight since January. I just started using a scale on April 27th i lost around 30 pounds by June 27th. Its July 27th and i only lost 12 pounds. And this last 2 weekd ive been trying to eat more... less... anything to move my weight. Nothing works so im ordering a scale and trying to eat around the recommended calories until it gets here.
Idk whats up, but CICO isn’t doing a damn thing for me the last month.3 -
I take vitamins and minerals for the vitamins and minerals, not to lose weight. Only thing i take for weight in that section is apple cider vinegar.How often are you weighing yourself? What is your weighing procedure? Are you weighing in the morning before you eat or drink anything after you visit the restroom? Are you wearing the same clothes or no clothes?
Even with your larger deficit you should go ahead and read:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
I hope you are not spending too much money on the stuff in your Snack section because none of that will help you lose weight.
My thinking is that you should be down 6ish lbs of fat in the second 2 weeks if you are logging your food correctly. If so, you are up 8lbs of water which is possible but we should check some things (like your weighing procedure) to be sure. Technically speaking you would be down 8 lbs if MFP has your numbers right but we will get to that later.
ETA: You may see people say that weight loss is not linear and that is true because your weight can fluctuate up and down. At 460 though you would be really likely to see some loss in 2 weeks even if some of it is masked by water gain.
I weighing myself wayyyy too much, morning, midday, night.... anytime i was free and thinking about my weight. I always weigh myself in my boxers, usually after i use the bathroom on an empty stomach. I put the scale away yesterday and in not going to weigh myself until the 1st.
Ive been floating around 460-465 for 2 weeks. I’m eat more and and see if that helps, thats the only thing i got left. I don’t understand how people get their stomachs removed or sleeve and they lost weight eating way lower calories, but if I constantly eat 1200-1500 i lose nothing or just 12 pounds for a month??!!
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The only thing apple cider vinegar will do is etch your teeth. You ought not want that.
You mentioned that using the scale to prepare food was taking too long. How was that?
I, and many others, find that using a scale to precisely measure our food is quite easy and quick.1 -
I didn't realize you had been losing weight since January. Now it makes more sense. You have stalled because of water weight and because you are stressing over it you are making it worse. Putting the scale away is a good idea and just try and relax.
3lbs a week is a good rate of loss though and you have been doing it since your April weigh-in.
I strongly suggest you focus on being happy during this process. It helps the time go by faster. Find yourself a calorie goal you like and focus on consistency and the weight will come off.
Oh and apple cider vinegar will not help you lose weight either... sorry. That is just one of those internet tall tales based on very sketchy research.2 -
Also, you might consider weighing more like once every 30 days. It takes that long for a real problem to present itself anyway and you haven't responded well to checking it more often. The whole idea of changing your eating to make the scale move is just the kind of thing that you absolutely should not be doing or even thinking about. And weighing yourself multiple times a day and being frustrated is the kind of stress that can make you retain water.3
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Junebug2022 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »(Although it's hard to imagine you're not still at a deficit -- your TDEE should be over 4000.)
This is my issue, i know about weighing my food, it got tedious the last time i was using this site. It took longer to make the food then to eat it. I didn’t want to go down that riad again so i was eating no where my recommended calories are at.
I been losing weight since January. I just started using a scale on April 27th i lost around 30 pounds by June 27th. Its July 27th and i only lost 12 pounds. And this last 2 weekd ive been trying to eat more... less... anything to move my weight. Nothing works so im ordering a scale and trying to eat around the recommended calories until it gets here.
Idk whats up, but CICO isn’t doing a damn thing for me the last month.Junebug2022 wrote: »
I take vitamins and minerals for the vitamins and minerals, not to lose weight. Only thing i take for weight in that section is apple cider vinegar.How often are you weighing yourself? What is your weighing procedure? Are you weighing in the morning before you eat or drink anything after you visit the restroom? Are you wearing the same clothes or no clothes?
Even with your larger deficit you should go ahead and read:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
I hope you are not spending too much money on the stuff in your Snack section because none of that will help you lose weight.
My thinking is that you should be down 6ish lbs of fat in the second 2 weeks if you are logging your food correctly. If so, you are up 8lbs of water which is possible but we should check some things (like your weighing procedure) to be sure. Technically speaking you would be down 8 lbs if MFP has your numbers right but we will get to that later.
ETA: You may see people say that weight loss is not linear and that is true because your weight can fluctuate up and down. At 460 though you would be really likely to see some loss in 2 weeks even if some of it is masked by water gain.
I weighing myself wayyyy too much, morning, midday, night.... anytime i was free and thinking about my weight. I always weigh myself in my boxers, usually after i use the bathroom on an empty stomach. I put the scale away yesterday and in not going to weigh myself until the 1st.
Ive been floating around 460-465 for 2 weeks. I’m eat more and and see if that helps, thats the only thing i got left. I don’t understand how people get their stomachs removed or sleeve and they lost weight eating way lower calories, but if I constantly eat 1200-1500 i lose nothing or just 12 pounds for a month??!!
12 pounds in a month is not "nothing." Especially when you're seven months into the process. And if you lost 30 lbs between April 27 and June 27, and you've lost 12 pounds since June 27, you've lost more in the last month than you averaged per month in the three months before that.
And according to your diary, you have not been "constantly" eating 1200 to 1500 cals in the past month -- you've been all over the place in how many cals you've been eating. It looked to me like you've averaged around 2000 calories or so over the last month, and more like 2400 in the past 10 days or so.
Your problem is not that you're not losing weight. It's that your expectations are high, and your ability to recognize success as success.
Finally, if you change your strategy ("eat more... less... anything") multiple times in the span of two weeks, even if you have a result that you do recognize as success, you won't really know what caused it.3 -
@lynn_glenmont From April 27th to today it has only been 91 days so he did lose slightly faster for the 2 months prior to this one. Doesn't really matter though as your reply was on the money in every other way.0
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@lynn_glenmont From April 27th to today it has only been 91 days so he did lose slightly faster for the 2 months prior to this one. Doesn't really matter though as your reply was on the money in every other way.
Good point. Shouldn't try to count when I'm tired and distracted. ("April, that's one month; May, that's a second month; June, that's a third month."
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Also, in that same post, I really should have said "inability to recognize success." (Or better yet, some construction in which the part about expectations and success were either both clauses or both noun phrases, not one of each. I just shouldn't write when I'm tired to distracted. But then I probably never would.)1 -
You will have to accept that you have to make an effort, but logging food shouldn't take very long when you've got yourself a collection of foods you eat regularly, and use a food scale efficiently. You don't have to eat hundreds of different foods every day, just get in some food from each food group, and enough, but not too many calories.Junebug2022 wrote: »This is my issue, i know about weighing my food, it got tedious the last time i was using this site. It took longer to make the food then to eat it. I didn’t want to go down that riad again so i was eating no where my recommended calories are at.
If your goal is to lose weight and you're not losing weight, the solution is never to eat more. It's just you who wants to eat more. So ask yourself what you want more: Lose weight, or eat more?And this last 2 weekd ive been trying to eat more... less... anything to move my weight.
Eating the recommendes calories, works, but you may not be eating the recommended calories if you don't use a food scale.Nothing works so im ordering a scale and trying to eat around the recommended calories until it gets here.
I know what's up. You don't know what CICO is, and you're not counting calories properly.I been losing weight since January. I just started using a scale on April 27th i lost around 30 pounds by June 27th. Its July 27th and i only lost 12 pounds.
Idk whats up, but CICO isn’t doing a damn thing for me the last month.
Stop that, especially if you think logging food is too tedious.Junebug2022 wrote: »Only thing i take for weight in that section is apple cider vinegar.
Yes, stop that, especially if you think logging food is too tedious.I weighing myself wayyyy too much, morning, midday, night....
I put the scale away yesterday and in not going to weigh myself until the 1st.
Just weigh yourself once per day, in the morning. You don't have to stop weighing yourself; comparable weigh-ins are valuable data points.
You have been eating more (than you think), that's why your weightloss has slowed down. DIve been floating around 460-465 for 2 weeks. I’m eat more and and see if that helps, thats the only thing i got left.
Those people aren't able to eat more than that. You are, and you do.I don’t understand how people get their stomachs removed or sleeve and they lost weight eating way lower calories, but if I constantly eat 1200-1500 i lose nothing or just 12 pounds for a month??!!
Every body is capable of losing weight, it's just a question of CICO.
But everybody isn't capable of losing weight, because it's a question of behavior, mindset and attitude.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
If your goal is to lose weight and you're not losing weight, the solution is never to eat more. It's just you who wants to eat more. So ask yourself what you want more: Lose weight, or eat more?Junebug2022 wrote: »And this last 2 weekd ive been trying to eat more... less... anything to move my weight.
I pretty much agree with everything you wrote, including the strong likelihood that he's probably eating at least a few hundred calories a day more than he thinks. But if you haven't looked into his diary, a few weeks back he was stringing together a lot of days where he was logging very low calories, even days below 1000 kcal -- and he was losing nearly 4 lbs a week, so I'm not sure how much encouragement he should be given to eat less (since he's still losing 3 lbs a week even after increasing his calories to roughly 2100 most days with a few splurges in the upper 2000s and even the mid 3000s, which should still be below his TDEE -- yes, he weighs enough that he can probably safely lose faster, but I don't see any evidence he's doing this under a doctor's care).
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I'm sort of assuming that he understands that I'm talking about eating less than 4000 calories per day, but I agree, you can't assume anything.lynn_glenmont wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »
If your goal is to lose weight and you're not losing weight, the solution is never to eat more. It's just you who wants to eat more. So ask yourself what you want more: Lose weight, or eat more?Junebug2022 wrote: »And this last 2 weekd ive been trying to eat more... less... anything to move my weight.
I pretty much agree with everything you wrote, including the strong likelihood that he's probably eating at least a few hundred calories a day more than he thinks. But if you haven't looked into his diary, a few weeks back he was stringing together a lot of days where he was logging very low calories, even days below 1000 kcal -- and he was losing nearly 4 lbs a week, so I'm not sure how much encouragement he should be given to eat less (since he's still losing 3 lbs a week even after increasing his calories to roughly 2100 most days with a few splurges in the upper 2000s and even the mid 3000s, which should still be below his TDEE -- yes, he weighs enough that he can probably safely lose faster, but I don't see any evidence he's doing this under a doctor's care).1 -
Junebug2022 wrote: »
This is my issue, i know about weighing my food, it got tedious the last time i was using this site. It took longer to make the food then to eat it. I didn’t want to go down that riad again so i was eating no where my recommended calories are at.
I’m not gonna recommend against food scales, I know why they’re so popular here. That said, I don’t use them either because I usually find it too tedious. The only exceptions are when I do things like make bags of to-go snacks with nuts and other high energy items. What I do instead is make sure that if I eat a package of a certain food item over the course of several days or meals, I make sure that the sum of what I have logged equals the size of the package. Additionally, for things that take ”forever” to go through, like olive oil, I have measured once how much the amount I put on my large pan for frying weighs, and how much it’s for my small pan. Similarly, I know the volume of my favorite mug I drink most liquids from, I know the size of slices my cheese slicer gives out, etc. Sure, I will eventually have to move to using the food scale consistently, but so far there has been enough room for error with this method. With the amount that you have to lose, I’m guessing this could help you move forward as well.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »@lynn_glenmont From April 27th to today it has only been 91 days so he did lose slightly faster for the 2 months prior to this one. Doesn't really matter though as your reply was on the money in every other way.
Good point. Shouldn't try to count when I'm tired and distracted. ("April, that's one month; May, that's a second month; June, that's a third month." )
Also, in that same post, I really should have said "inability to recognize success." (Or better yet, some construction in which the part about expectations and success were either both clauses or both noun phrases, not one of each. I just shouldn't write when I'm tired to distracted. But then I probably never would.)
I can sometimes hate coming back and reading something I have posted. I am bad about rewriting something while distracted and not deleting all of the previous version leaving words that don't belong or if I am on the phone for some reason I occasionally do my real pet peeve of making homonym spelling errors like bear for bare or since for sense which makes me look like an idiot. I have no idea why I do that when I am on the phone other than it must be a walk and chew gum thing.
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Didn’t know MFP didn’t like apple cider vinegar like this, i take it in morning with my vitamins because ive read that it helps mobilize belly fat and helps with blood fats and sugars. That’s why i take it to start my eating in the morning.0
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Things either have an effect or no effect, and effects have an explicable cause, or at least one can find a logical explanation. So you can be certain that anything supposed to "help", does nothing of the sort, it only takes away valuable mental effort from the things that matter.Junebug2022 wrote: »Didn’t know MFP didn’t like apple cider vinegar like this, i take it in morning with my vitamins because ive read that it helps mobilize belly fat and helps with blood fats and sugars. That’s why i take it to start my eating in the morning.0 -
This is pretty much how i feel to the gentleman who asked me why I avoided scales this time. It became very tedious and I personally have a personality that is do something all the way or f*** it all together.Junebug2022 wrote: »
This is my issue, i know about weighing my food, it got tedious the last time i was using this site. It took longer to make the food then to eat it. I didn’t want to go down that riad again so i was eating no where my recommended calories are at.
I’m not gonna recommend against food scales, I know why they’re so popular here. That said, I don’t use them either because I usually find it too tedious. The only exceptions are when I do things like make bags of to-go snacks with nuts and other high energy items. What I do instead is make sure that if I eat a package of a certain food item over the course of several days or meals, I make sure that the sum of what I have logged equals the size of the package. Additionally, for things that take ”forever” to go through, like olive oil, I have measured once how much the amount I put on my large pan for frying weighs, and how much it’s for my small pan. Similarly, I know the volume of my favorite mug I drink most liquids from, I know the size of slices my cheese slicer gives out, etc. Sure, I will eventually have to move to using the food scale consistently, but so far there has been enough room for error with this method. With the amount that you have to lose, I’m guessing this could help you move forward as well.
So last time i was basically at the point where if I couldn’t weigh everything and log it, I wouldn’t eat. I don’t want to do that again..... im going to have to flirt with it if im going to eat around my recommended calories.
But to not worry about weighing i used to eat a lot of whole packages. I still weigh liquids, but i imagine that a whole can of tuna or a egg is not far off from the packed weigh they cone listed with or those companies would be out of business. If the steak says its .87 pounds I believe it is close enough not to worry.
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So that's something to work on.I have a personality that is do something all the way or f*** it all together.0 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »@lynn_glenmont From April 27th to today it has only been 91 days so he did lose slightly faster for the 2 months prior to this one. Doesn't really matter though as your reply was on the money in every other way.
Good point. Shouldn't try to count when I'm tired and distracted. ("April, that's one month; May, that's a second month; June, that's a third month." )
Also, in that same post, I really should have said "inability to recognize success." (Or better yet, some construction in which the part about expectations and success were either both clauses or both noun phrases, not one of each. I just shouldn't write when I'm tired to distracted. But then I probably never would.)
I can sometimes hate coming back and reading something I have posted. I am bad about rewriting something while distracted and not deleting all of the previous version leaving words that don't belong or if I am on the phone for some reason I occasionally do my real pet peeve of making homonym spelling errors like bear for bare or since for sense which makes me look like an idiot. I have no idea why I do that when I am on the phone other than it must be a walk and chew gum thing.lynn_glenmont wrote: »@lynn_glenmont From April 27th to today it has only been 91 days so he did lose slightly faster for the 2 months prior to this one. Doesn't really matter though as your reply was on the money in every other way.
Good point. Shouldn't try to count when I'm tired and distracted. ("April, that's one month; May, that's a second month; June, that's a third month." )
Also, in that same post, I really should have said "inability to recognize success." (Or better yet, some construction in which the part about expectations and success were either both clauses or both noun phrases, not one of each. I just shouldn't write when I'm tired to distracted. But then I probably never would.)
I can sometimes hate coming back and reading something I have posted. I am bad about rewriting something while distracted and not deleting all of the previous version leaving words that don't belong or if I am on the phone for some reason I occasionally do my real pet peeve of making homonym spelling errors like bear for bare or since for sense which makes me look like an idiot. I have no idea why I do that when I am on the phone other than it must be a walk and chew gum thing. 0
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