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Insatiable on Netflix: fat shaming or good entertainment?
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amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't do high school/drama/romance stuff, so I haven't watched it. I did watch the trailer and my thoughts were "meh". I didn't read too much into it, entertainment is entertainment and nothing more. I don't expect any shows I watch to be factual, representative, politically correct, or have some deep message or philosophical stance. Some do have some of these elements, but that's not why I watch them. I watch them to be entertained, and the premise of this one didn't grab me. Simple as that. People usually read too much into stuff.
Well actually it seems like every single netflix show is trying to push some sort of agenda. They always include something "controversial" or a "hot topic", something that would piss off a hard-core conservative. Not trying to be political but I find it odd that every netflix show that I've watched is pushing an agenda. It can't just be entertainment for entertainment.
If the ones I know are any indication, angering a hard-core conservative isn't exactly a difficult bar to clear. I've seen them rage about things I considered anodyne.24 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't do high school/drama/romance stuff, so I haven't watched it. I did watch the trailer and my thoughts were "meh". I didn't read too much into it, entertainment is entertainment and nothing more. I don't expect any shows I watch to be factual, representative, politically correct, or have some deep message or philosophical stance. Some do have some of these elements, but that's not why I watch them. I watch them to be entertained, and the premise of this one didn't grab me. Simple as that. People usually read too much into stuff.
Well actually it seems like every single netflix show is trying to push some sort of agenda. They always include something "controversial" or a "hot topic", something that would piss off a hard-core conservative. Not trying to be political but I find it odd that every netflix show that I've watched is pushing an agenda. It can't just be entertainment for entertainment.
Some of the cooking shows APPEAR to be agenda free. (Or maybe they're just that subtle and insidious...)12 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't do high school/drama/romance stuff, so I haven't watched it. I did watch the trailer and my thoughts were "meh". I didn't read too much into it, entertainment is entertainment and nothing more. I don't expect any shows I watch to be factual, representative, politically correct, or have some deep message or philosophical stance. Some do have some of these elements, but that's not why I watch them. I watch them to be entertained, and the premise of this one didn't grab me. Simple as that. People usually read too much into stuff.
Well actually it seems like every single netflix show is trying to push some sort of agenda. They always include something "controversial" or a "hot topic", something that would piss off a hard-core conservative. Not trying to be political but I find it odd that every netflix show that I've watched is pushing an agenda. It can't just be entertainment for entertainment.
Some of the cooking shows APPEAR to be agenda free. (Or maybe they're just that subtle and insidious...)
They are steeped in consumerism selling pots and pans and utensils.
(Tongue in cheek here, I don't watch cooking shows)
As for the OP, I watched the first episode after reading the OP. It's not something I found particularly entertaining. Might watch the second episode, just to see if that changes, but I doubt it. I'd much rather watch some good old fashioned violence. I rarely sit and just watch anything so any undertones of agenda typically aren't noticed. It's not often I have something on that grabs my attention enough for me to actually sit and watch it.4 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't do high school/drama/romance stuff, so I haven't watched it. I did watch the trailer and my thoughts were "meh". I didn't read too much into it, entertainment is entertainment and nothing more. I don't expect any shows I watch to be factual, representative, politically correct, or have some deep message or philosophical stance. Some do have some of these elements, but that's not why I watch them. I watch them to be entertained, and the premise of this one didn't grab me. Simple as that. People usually read too much into stuff.
Well actually it seems like every single netflix show is trying to push some sort of agenda. They always include something "controversial" or a "hot topic", something that would piss off a hard-core conservative. Not trying to be political but I find it odd that every netflix show that I've watched is pushing an agenda. It can't just be entertainment for entertainment.
Some of the cooking shows APPEAR to be agenda free. (Or maybe they're just that subtle and insidious...)
It's a conspiracy to make us fatter.3 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't do high school/drama/romance stuff, so I haven't watched it. I did watch the trailer and my thoughts were "meh". I didn't read too much into it, entertainment is entertainment and nothing more. I don't expect any shows I watch to be factual, representative, politically correct, or have some deep message or philosophical stance. Some do have some of these elements, but that's not why I watch them. I watch them to be entertained, and the premise of this one didn't grab me. Simple as that. People usually read too much into stuff.
Well actually it seems like every single netflix show is trying to push some sort of agenda. They always include something "controversial" or a "hot topic", something that would piss off a hard-core conservative. Not trying to be political but I find it odd that every netflix show that I've watched is pushing an agenda. It can't just be entertainment for entertainment.
What is entertainment for entertainment though? What has to exist for it to suddenly switch from being about entertainment to being about "something 'controversial' or a 'hot topic', something that would piss off a hard-core conservative"? Moreover, why does including something/someone that would potentially piss off a hardcore conservative equate to having agenda as opposed to say, equating to displaying the reality of the human experience?13 -
Krachbummente2049 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »I don't do high school/drama/romance stuff, so I haven't watched it. I did watch the trailer and my thoughts were "meh". I didn't read too much into it, entertainment is entertainment and nothing more. I don't expect any shows I watch to be factual, representative, politically correct, or have some deep message or philosophical stance. Some do have some of these elements, but that's not why I watch them. I watch them to be entertained, and the premise of this one didn't grab me. Simple as that. People usually read too much into stuff.
Well actually it seems like every single netflix show is trying to push some sort of agenda. They always include something "controversial" or a "hot topic", something that would piss off a hard-core conservative. Not trying to be political but I find it odd that every netflix show that I've watched is pushing an agenda. It can't just be entertainment for entertainment.
Some of the cooking shows APPEAR to be agenda free. (Or maybe they're just that subtle and insidious...)
They are steeped in consumerism selling pots and pans and utensils.
(Tongue in cheek here, I don't watch cooking shows)
As for the OP, I watched the first episode after reading the OP. It's not something I found particularly entertaining. Might watch the second episode, just to see if that changes, but I doubt it. I'd much rather watch some good old fashioned violence. I rarely sit and just watch anything so any undertones of agenda typically aren't noticed. It's not often I have something on that grabs my attention enough for me to actually sit and watch it.
I don't know, Gordon Ramsay is using "donkey" as an insult a lot.
Ah. Trying to corner the donkey market. Smart. Very subtle.3 -
I read somewhere that Kimmy Schmidt has a feminist agenda. I was like, wait, what? It just makes me laugh, I don't think about it that much. I guess if I was sensitive to that sort of thing, or perhaps I thought preachers should be allowed to kidnap teenage girls under an apocalypse ruse, I would be offended. I don't know.
I thought it's agenda was to preach the awesomeness of anyone named Kimmy
A couple more people I know watched the first couple episodes of Insatiable and their review was "Meh". So it's pretty much off my radar. I watched the Netflix movie Extinction over the weekend. It was also "Meh".11 -
Slate destroyed it in its review. It's not my flavor of storyline, so I'd skip it anyway.
What really cinched it, though: my daughters tortured me for months watching Disney's "Jesse" on a loop, which Debby Ryan starred in. I just can't watch the actress without getting flashbacks...1 -
I read somewhere that Kimmy Schmidt has a feminist agenda. I was like, wait, what? It just makes me laugh, I don't think about it that much. I guess if I was sensitive to that sort of thing, or perhaps I thought preachers should be allowed to kidnap teenage girls under an apocalypse ruse, I would be offended. I don't know.
I thought it's agenda was to preach the awesomeness of anyone named Kimmy
A couple more people I know watched the first couple episodes of Insatiable and their review was "Meh". So it's pretty much off my radar. I watched the Netflix movie Extinction over the weekend. It was also "Meh".
That was my reaction too.1 -
Its entertainment. You choose to watch or not. Excited to watch it. I saw Extinction. Twist at the end. lol1
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The show is very "Meh" It has a couple good punch lines. Hubby and I love the main character Bob is always adding a hilarious nickname to Bob Barnard "Bob Backstreet Boy Barnard" Lol. As for fat shaming, it definitely has some, for sure. But it also shows that even though Patty got skinny, her life is NOT perfect and she doesnt miraculously get everything she wanted. So, it also shows that skinny wont solve your problems and/or make you a different/better person. Some of the writting is plain hideous and feels very out there. But I'd definitely say its satire. The cast is amazing. That's why I started watching it, for the cast. But, I wouldn't suggest it as a good show to watch. It was ok, but there are tons of better things to watch (regardless if it's shaming or not)6
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I read somewhere that Kimmy Schmidt has a feminist agenda. I was like, wait, what? It just makes me laugh, I don't think about it that much. I guess if I was sensitive to that sort of thing, or perhaps I thought preachers should be allowed to kidnap teenage girls under an apocalypse ruse, I would be offended. I don't know.
I thought it's agenda was to preach the awesomeness of anyone named Kimmy
A couple more people I know watched the first couple episodes of Insatiable and their review was "Meh". So it's pretty much off my radar. I watched the Netflix movie Extinction over the weekend. It was also "Meh".
That was on my to-watch list
Oh well...
As agendas, I don't really think it matters. Dumb and dumber is not the only form of entertainment. Hot topics sell and engage, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's just entertainment. Taking a hot topic and building a show around it is a very common formula (that has proven profitable in the case of Netflix). This is more so the case now that people are chronically offended. No one batted an eye when Monika from Friends was fat then stopped being fat and got hot.4 -
Ok, so I had to watch this to know what people were talking about. It’s freakin hilarious! The blatant subtext. The tongue and cheek cheekiness! It doesn’t take itself at all seriously. And homegirls is a MESS. Hahaha.5
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I have a crazy notion...just bear with me here it goes. Even if there was a show whose premise was offensive to a given group of people or that relied on rather crass humor then either no one will watch it and it will get cancelled or other people will find it entertaining and it will stay on....and that is okay. If we required that every show contain no material that was offensive to anyone just think out censored and bland and monontenous what something that is supposed to be entertainment would become. I know, crazy idea, but quite often what we find to be entertaining is things that are edgy, or culturally insensitive, or that push boundries.
Now I haven't personally watched this show, no idea if I would find it entertaining myself or not...no idea if I would actually find its portrals offensive (I honestly might I don't know)....but so what, not all media and entertainment has to be crafted to fit my particular tastes and there should be no compulsion for the public to "not offend" me.
I know this statement is so cliche at this point but it remains true....if you don't like the show, then don't watch the show.9 -
MsHarryWinston wrote: »Ok, so I had to watch this to know what people were talking about. It’s freakin hilarious! The blatant subtext. The tongue and cheek cheekiness! It doesn’t take itself at all seriously. And homegirls is a MESS. Hahaha.
I agree. Pretty entertaining show. C'mon, bikini dog wash? That's just silly.2 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I have a crazy notion...just bear with me here it goes. Even if there was a show whose premise was offensive to a given group of people or that relied on rather crass humor then either no one will watch it and it will get cancelled or other people will find it entertaining and it will stay on....and that is okay. If we required that every show contain no material that was offensive to anyone just think out censored and bland and monontenous what something that is supposed to be entertainment would become. I know, crazy idea, but quite often what we find to be entertaining is things that are edgy, or culturally insensitive, or that push boundries.
Now I haven't personally watched this show, no idea if I would find it entertaining myself or not...no idea if I would actually find its portrals offensive (I honestly might I don't know)....but so what, not all media and entertainment has to be crafted to fit my particular tastes and there should be no compulsion for the public to "not offend" me.
I know this statement is so cliche at this point but it remains true....if you don't like the show, then don't watch the show.
I still watch Married with Children........
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »I have a crazy notion...just bear with me here it goes. Even if there was a show whose premise was offensive to a given group of people or that relied on rather crass humor then either no one will watch it and it will get cancelled or other people will find it entertaining and it will stay on....and that is okay. If we required that every show contain no material that was offensive to anyone just think out censored and bland and monontenous what something that is supposed to be entertainment would become. I know, crazy idea, but quite often what we find to be entertaining is things that are edgy, or culturally insensitive, or that push boundries.
Now I haven't personally watched this show, no idea if I would find it entertaining myself or not...no idea if I would actually find its portrals offensive (I honestly might I don't know)....but so what, not all media and entertainment has to be crafted to fit my particular tastes and there should be no compulsion for the public to "not offend" me.
I know this statement is so cliche at this point but it remains true....if you don't like the show, then don't watch the show.
I still watch Married with Children........
Neanderthal.
(me too)2 -
I'll give it a go. i like dark humor and sometimes the brain likes young people entertainment.
extinction...predictable. i figured it out right away and i kept praying thru the whole movie it wasn't that easy3 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I have a crazy notion...just bear with me here it goes. Even if there was a show whose premise was offensive to a given group of people or that relied on rather crass humor then either no one will watch it and it will get cancelled or other people will find it entertaining and it will stay on....and that is okay. If we required that every show contain no material that was offensive to anyone just think out censored and bland and monontenous what something that is supposed to be entertainment would become. I know, crazy idea, but quite often what we find to be entertaining is things that are edgy, or culturally insensitive, or that push boundries...
Is anybody else here old enough to remember "All In The Family"?8
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