Exercise gets easier

heybales

michaelandashley4infinity wrote: »

heybales wrote: »

kshama2001 wrote: »

michaelandashley4infinity wrote: »

Just found out I'm not eating enough vegies and I have to start a 1200 calorie food and drink daily goal. I got told off my dietician I'm doing enough exercise just gotta work on eating less and healthier and only having junk food once a week. I can have 1/2 block of chocolate but only once a week. Done an hour bicycle riding yesterday and about 40-50 minutes of bike riding today. Probably do my 7.5km walk tomorrow and another bike ride. I've gotta keep up the exercise everyday.

How tall are you and how many more pounds do you want to lose?

Is that 1200 calories net, meaning you eat back the calories you earn from exercise?

OP - don't want you to miss this.

As you are exercising more than walking, being more intense and sounds like wanting to transform the body more than mere weight lost would indicate - this becomes much more important.

Now - don't go logging standing as exercise, nor walking in grocery store, and only half the time spent walking as exercise - but if you keep adding on, you need to learn to eat more when you do more, but also eat less when you do less.

I only log my walking to and from places like my 7.5km walk and walking to shops not in the shops and I don't log standing up either. I do log my bike rides also and gardening for that four hours straight burned 700 calories if I remember correctly but I could be wrong. And I logged my 7 km ride yesterday. So you reckon to eat more when I do more and eat less when I do less?

That is the principle of weight management that MFP is trying to teach.
Which is very correct - most of us get caught on the eating less when truly doing less. Like each winter sometimes - and those constantly add up through the years.

You goal is likely rarely 1200 - that is base calories if you were truly sedentary each and every day.
That means bump on a log 7 days a week, less than 4K steps usually, no family/house responsibilities.
You most obviously are not - therefore by logging workouts MFP would correctly add calories to your eating goal - so your deficit to lose weight stays at hopefully a reasonable level.

Hence the question of how much to lose to healthy weight.
Most would love to lose as fast as possible - to their own detriment in either reaching their goal, and/or maintaining it from then on. Or in what is lost, ie not all fat.
But what is reasonable rate to the body before things backfire, changes as you have less to lose.
It's always best to slow the rate purposely before the body does it out of necessity by adapting to the stress.

Since walking is such a low level activity unless race walking - I'd suggest logging half the time, or cut the suggested calorie burn in half.
If biking is slow and around the same rate, do the same.
Then eat those calories back.

michaelandashley4infinity

heybales wrote: »

michaelandashley4infinity wrote: »

heybales wrote: »

kshama2001 wrote: »

michaelandashley4infinity wrote: »

Just found out I'm not eating enough vegies and I have to start a 1200 calorie food and drink daily goal. I got told off my dietician I'm doing enough exercise just gotta work on eating less and healthier and only having junk food once a week. I can have 1/2 block of chocolate but only once a week. Done an hour bicycle riding yesterday and about 40-50 minutes of bike riding today. Probably do my 7.5km walk tomorrow and another bike ride. I've gotta keep up the exercise everyday.

How tall are you and how many more pounds do you want to lose?

Is that 1200 calories net, meaning you eat back the calories you earn from exercise?

OP - don't want you to miss this.

As you are exercising more than walking, being more intense and sounds like wanting to transform the body more than mere weight lost would indicate - this becomes much more important.

Now - don't go logging standing as exercise, nor walking in grocery store, and only half the time spent walking as exercise - but if you keep adding on, you need to learn to eat more when you do more, but also eat less when you do less.

I only log my walking to and from places like my 7.5km walk and walking to shops not in the shops and I don't log standing up either. I do log my bike rides also and gardening for that four hours straight burned 700 calories if I remember correctly but I could be wrong. And I logged my 7 km ride yesterday. So you reckon to eat more when I do more and eat less when I do less?

That is the principle of weight management that MFP is trying to teach.
Which is very correct - most of us get caught on the eating less when truly doing less. Like each winter sometimes - and those constantly add up through the years.

You goal is likely rarely 1200 - that is base calories if you were truly sedentary each and every day.
That means bump on a log 7 days a week, less than 4K steps usually, no family/house responsibilities.
You most obviously are not - therefore by logging workouts MFP would correctly add calories to your eating goal - so your deficit to lose weight stays at hopefully a reasonable level.

Hence the question of how much to lose to healthy weight.
Most would love to lose as fast as possible - to their own detriment in either reaching their goal, and/or maintaining it from then on. Or in what is lost, ie not all fat.
But what is reasonable rate to the body before things backfire, changes as you have less to lose.
It's always best to slow the rate purposely before the body does it out of necessity by adapting to the stress.

Since walking is such a low level activity unless race walking - I'd suggest logging half the time, or cut the suggested calorie burn in half.
If biking is slow and around the same rate, do the same.
Then eat those calories back.

Are you calling me a liar? Since April 18th I've lost 10.9 kg up until today 16th august. That's four months nearly. How much have you lost? I think 10.9 kg weight lost is pretty good. I've lost 2.9 kg more then I should have as professionals in weight loss recommend 1/2 a kg a week

heybales

I'm not sure what you read in my comment to cause such a reaction, I never commented on any of your claims sounding untrue.

I was commenting on MFP goals and the way it works, and suggestion on logging to still eat back good amount of exercise calories to learn what MFP is trying to teach.
Suggest rereading my comments and letting me know what was misunderstood since something was.

Congrats on your loss.

And to the point of your loss being better than pro's recommend - that's why I made comment about faster is not always better - hence 3 people in this topic asking how much to lose. I know why they asked, because they are as concerned as I am about people going too fast for ultimately their own good.

michaelandashley4infinity

heybales wrote: »

I'm not sure what you read in my comment to cause such a reaction, I never commented on any of your claims sounding untrue.

I was commenting on MFP goals and the way it works, and suggestion on logging to still eat back good amount of exercise calories to learn what MFP is trying to teach.
Suggest rereading my comments and letting me know what was misunderstood since something was.

Congrats on your loss.

And to the point of your loss being better than pro's recommend - that's why I made comment about faster is not always better - hence 3 people in this topic asking how much to lose. I know why they asked, because they are as concerned as I am about people going too fast for ultimately their own good.

I'm sorry if I took it the wrong way, that's probably because of my borderline personality disorder sorry

elsie6hickman

I read in WebMD magazine that it is better to go longer at a moderate intensity rather than a shorter time at greater intensity. I have been trying this in my walking and find it's true. That is just my experience.

emjay196363

I started walking about a month ago. At first I could only do a slow walk (about 2MPH) for 20 minutes and I struggled to do even a short uphill. This morning I did a full hour at 3.4MPH. I've started throwing in a little slow jogging - I could barely lift my knees at first, but it's getting easier and easier. But as it gets easier, I feel this internal pressure to make it harder, if that makes sense. I guess real jogging is next.

michaelandashley4infinity

elsie6hickman wrote: »

I read in WebMD magazine that it is better to go longer at a moderate intensity rather than a shorter time at greater intensity. I have been trying this in my walking and find it's true. That is just my experience.

Yes that is true I read that to. Good going well done

michaelandashley4infinity

emjay196363 wrote: »

I started walking about a month ago. At first I could only do a slow walk (about 2MPH) for 20 minutes and I struggled to do even a short uphill. This morning I did a full hour at 3.4MPH. I've started throwing in a little slow jogging - I could barely lift my knees at first, but it's getting easier and easier. But as it gets easier, I feel this internal pressure to make it harder, if that makes sense. I guess real jogging is next.

Well done your going good

NorthCascades

elsie6hickman wrote: »

I read in WebMD magazine that it is better to go longer at a moderate intensity rather than a shorter time at greater intensity. I have been trying this in my walking and find it's true. That is just my experience.

I can go all out and burn maybe 300 calories in a burial 20 minutes on my bike, and then limp home gasping for air. Or I can enjoy a pleasant ride for a couple hours and burn 1,000 calories. The stuff I enjoy doing requires stamina and endurance, not a great sprint. So I think you're right on the money.

kardsharp

AnnPT77 wrote: »

Easier? Sure.

And, if you find the right ways to be active, even joyous. I rowed this morning, and it was glorious: Flat water, birds in the air, flowers on the shore, tiny dragonflies hitching a ride on my double partner's hat, sun on my skin, muscles working, fresh air. Can't beat that!

Tomorrow is spin class: Music, heart pounding, concentration, a social context - pretty darned fun, too.

And when I'd been doing those things (and others) long enough, it started feeling physically bad not to do something physical often enough (I got tense, moodier, stiff/achy, etc.).

It's kinda magic, really.

Do you know how inspiring you are? You are my hero!

Lillymoo01

I don't think that exercise gets easier the longer you do it, but the habit of actually doing it certainly does. So much so that going without feels wrong.

AnvilHead

Lillymoo01 wrote: »

I don't think that exercise gets easier the longer you do it, but the habit of actually doing it certainly does. So much so that going without feels wrong.

I think it gets “easier” in the sense that you don’t get the crippling soreness anymore, you get more comfortable with exerting yourself and pushing your limits, and you get a feel for when to push/when to back off. Exercise becomes a lot more enjoyable when you’re not limping around smelling like Icy Hot rub!

AnnPT77

kardsharp wrote: »

AnnPT77 wrote: »

Easier? Sure.

And, if you find the right ways to be active, even joyous. I rowed this morning, and it was glorious: Flat water, birds in the air, flowers on the shore, tiny dragonflies hitching a ride on my double partner's hat, sun on my skin, muscles working, fresh air. Can't beat that!

Tomorrow is spin class: Music, heart pounding, concentration, a social context - pretty darned fun, too.

And when I'd been doing those things (and others) long enough, it started feeling physically bad not to do something physical often enough (I got tense, moodier, stiff/achy, etc.).

It's kinda magic, really.

Do you know how inspiring you are? You are my hero!

Aww, it's really sweet and touching that you would say that! (blush) :flowerforyou:

But remember:



(Peter Steiner's cartoon, as published in The New Yorker)