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jeffjeff85

Just clicked a link on this forum, bmi calculator says I'm obese. U wouldn't have thought so, but closer look says that for 5'9" height MAX weight is 77kg... Which is about 170 lbs! At 5'9"?@! Then pretty much everybody is obese.

L1zardQueen

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

Just clicked a link on this forum, bmi calculator says I'm obese. U wouldn't have thought so, but closer look says that for 5'9" height MAX weight is 77kg... Which is about 170 lbs! At 5'9"?@! Then pretty much everybody is obese.

Have you not heard? The BMI is for huge populations. Rock that muscular you!

jemhh

Yes for 5'9", 170 is overweight and 203 is obese.

A lot of people do not realize what's overweight and what's obese because being overweight has become normal.

shadow2soul

CDC says that in the US between 2013-2014 70.7% of the population was either overweight or obese. (20 yrs old and up)

I think since the majority of the population is overweight it makes it harder to distinguish what a healthy weight looks like.

I know years ago when I first hit the obese range, I didn’t feel that I looked obese. However looking back, I definitely did. Partly denial on my part and partly because being overweight/obese isn’t out of the norm.

jeffjeff85

I may not have said that correctly. I weigh currently 213. The bmi thing said max 170, but if that's true then every MMA fighter I ever met was obese

nutmegoreo

Are you an MMA fighter? Of course there will be outliers.

jeffjeff85

nutmegoreo wrote: »

Are you an MMA fighter? Of course there will be outliers.

Nope, shoulder injury took me out. Gained a LOT Aof weight due to medical treatments and meds, but on the way back.
Today, just shy if 5'10", 213 lbs, waist is 37 1/2 (4" more than "normal).

shadow2soul

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

I may not have said that correctly. I weigh currently 213. The bmi thing said max 170, but if that's true then every MMA fighter I ever met was obese

It is not uncommon for athletes to be outliers. Athletes typically have more muscle mass than the average person. That said it doesn’t make the BMI range wrong for the average person. It just means athletes should also look to BF%.

malibu927

BMI works for a general population. There will always be outliers, but the majority of people will be fine within a healthy range.

kimny72

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

I may not have said that correctly. I weigh currently 213. The bmi thing said max 170, but if that's true then every MMA fighter I ever met was obese

It's known that a highly muscled person may end up on the wrong side of the BMI healthy weight range. Unfortunately that's not an issue for most people. BMI is an average over populations, and is a rough guide individuals can use along with several other measurements (like waist, hip to waist ratio, BF%, etc) to decide what their optimal weight would be.

Also 170lbs at 5'9" would be just barely overweight, not obese. For many people, getting to that upper edge of the normal range may be the right goal for them.

jeffjeff85

Yeah, I'm guessing Arnold s doesn't fit the mold.... Bone density thing

AnvilHead

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

Yeah, I'm guessing Arnold s doesn't fit the mold.... Bone density thing

Steroid-using bodybuilders obviously weren’t a part of the population they considered when establishing the parameters for BMI.

nutmegoreo

And then comes the fight with insurance companies to prove the higher BMI is not obesity. Perhaps, for you, body fat percentage would be a better yard stick.

jeffjeff85

nutmegoreo wrote: »

And then comes the fight with insurance companies to prove the higher BMI is not obesity. Perhaps, for you, body fat percentage would be a better yard stick.

Yup. I never watched the scales, don't care if it says 185 or 205, long as it's healthy 'honest' weight. But the insurance thing is real. Still, I really do want (and intend) to drop this 20 that ISNT good weight

johnslater461

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

I may not have said that correctly. I weigh currently 213. The bmi thing said max 170, but if that's true then every MMA fighter I ever met was obese

You must be hanging out with some fat mma fighters. Even top athletes usually fall on the low end of the overweight range.

Randy Couture 6'1" 203.5 lbs 26.8 bmi

Matt Hughes 5'9" 170lbs 25.1bmi

Anderson Silva 6'2" 185lbs 23.8 bmi

George St Pierre 5'11" 184.5 25.7 bmi

Etc...

jeffjeff85

There ya go... According to that bmi calc, Matt Hughes is obese

malibu927

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

There ya go... According to that bmi calc, Matt Hughes is obese

Obese is a BMI of 30 or more. 25.1 is literally ounces from a normal weight.

johnslater461

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

There ya go... According to that bmi calc, Matt Hughes is obese

Obese is defined as 30 or more by bmi

Matt Hughes is over 30 lbs away

jeffjeff85

Is anybody concious here? More slowly...

Today I signed up. Clicked on bmi calc link FROM HERE. That calc says that somebody 5'9" tall and weighing 170 (77kg) is OBESE. I DIDNT SAY IT, the calc said it, why I thought was surprising and the reason I commented.
Is that clearer?

shadow2soul

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

There ya go... According to that bmi calc, Matt Hughes is obese

Umm...no. :noway:

25.1 is just barely considered overweight

18.5 to 24.9 is Healthy Range
25 to 29.9 is Overweight Range
30 to 34.9 is Class 1 Obese
35 to 39.9 is Class 2 Obese
40 + is Class 3 Obese

shadow2soul

jeffjeff85 wrote: »

Is anybody concious here? More slowly...

Today I signed up. Clicked on bmi calc link FROM HERE. That calc says that somebody 5'9" tall and weighing 170 (77kg) is OBESE. I DIDNT SAY IT, the calc said it, why I thought was surprising and the reason I commented.
Is that clearer?

Don’t know what link you clicked, but MFPs BMI calculator puts 5’9 170lbs as just overweight.