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angelamwoodruff
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Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
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Why do diets fail?
Eating foods that you don’t like to eat. Day in and out. Fail.
Eat food that you plan on eating the rest of your days. Win.
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It's been a while since I watched it, but I remember being much less disappointed than I had expected. I think the main contributing factors to diet failure are unrealistic expectations and not planning for long term success.23
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A lot of us get fat from an ED. It is easier to suppress it with motivation, which you have a lot of while losing, than discipline, which is what you need in maintenance. Both work to suppress it but it is harder to maintain discipline because it has to be forever.11
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The thing with the hunger too...it gets better.
I know in the beginning of my weight loss it was extremely difficult for a lot of reasons, not the least of which was hunger created by out of whack hormones due to being over weight.
That part goes away in time.
I did have to power through sometimes. Sometimes I just ate. I found the thing that helped the most was some exercise. It didn't have to be all-out two hours; but a walk for 30-45 minutes was enough to settle me down and when I was on low-cal, that extra couple hundred calories was a huge amount and made a big difference.
I've been at maintenance for years, the hunger thing does settle down. Good nutrition and still a little exercise are my best tools.9 -
The other thing too, angela - play around with what you are eating. For instance I can't really have too many carbs at any one time or it leaves me hungry soon after. I don't eat low carb, but I'm usually right around 150g or less every day. I make sure every meal and snack has protein, carbs and fat.
When I first started my food choices were centered around (and had been for a long time) cereals, bread, sweets, fruits. I tried to keep eating that way and I was always hungry. For me, cutting down on wheat was a great change I made. It seems to just make me hungrier. I don't think I have any kind of sensitivity to it but I think it does me no favors. I also stopped buying things that I would tend to eat the whole package in one sitting - like cookies, crackers, cereal or chips. When I was on low cal, having that stuff around was a recipe for disaster.
Then I started really paying attention to getting enough protein, fat, and fiber. So that meant most of my meals were heavy on the vegetables. That in itself helped tremendously. Volume and nutrition.17 -
I know how you feel, but it’s ok to be hungry. If you dislike the feeling, eat smaller meals more frequently and keep raw veggies for quick snacks. It can help
For me, why diets fail, is because of overeating, and rarely feeling hungry.2 -
cmriverside wrote: »The other thing too, angela - play around with what you are eating. For instance I can't really have too many carbs at any one time or it leaves me hungry soon after. I don't eat low carb, but I'm usually right around 150g or less every day. I make sure every meal and snack has protein, carbs and fat.
When I first started my food choices were centered around (and had been for a long time) cereals, bread, sweets, fruits. I tried to keep eating that way and I was always hungry. For me, cutting down on wheat was a great change I made. It seems to just make me hungrier. I don't think I have any kind of sensitivity to it but I think it does me no favors. I also stopped buying things that I would tend to eat the whole package in one sitting - like cookies, crackers, cereal or chips. When I was on low cal, having that stuff around was a recipe for disaster.
Then I started really paying attention to getting enough protein, fat, and fiber. So that meant most of my meals were heavy on the vegetables. That in itself helped tremendously. Volume and nutrition.
Wow..... how true about the wheat. I actually still eat some bread and oats occasional torilla, but have replaced many of my carbs with potatoes, not the carb bombs like russet, but sweet, red..ect, some corn, fresh usually, beans, lentils, heavy veggies, I tend to not add fats, but get fats from their natural sources like the meats I eat, nuts, avacado, some dairy. Not to say I don't indulge on higher calorie density foods, but limit them. I used to have serious.... Well let's just say poopie issues. Chronic explosions... TMI. Now, with the heavy increase in fiber, not so much.1 -
angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
all of that.
no other reason why they fail BUT THAT6 -
angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't the eating portion of lifestyle just a life-long diet?13 -
angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't a lifestyle just a life-long diet?
Yes and no IMHO. A diet, to me at least, is completely restrictive that give you rules you have to follow. Lifestyle change IMHO are rules to choose to follow. It's like saying, " I can't do that." Vs. " I don't do that." I believe it can change the way we look at things. Most humans will always grind again external rules, but have less trouble following their own rules.8 -
angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't a lifestyle just a life-long diet?
Diet the noun? or diet the verb? I think @crazyravr means the verb.4 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't a lifestyle just a life-long diet?
Diet the noun? or diet the verb? I think @crazyravr means the verb.
Ok, so aside from comparing a verb to a noun, what's the real-world difference between the 2? When dieting, you are managing what you eat, right? Aren't you doing the same thing with lifestyle? The only difference is that one typically has an endpoint and the other inherently doesn't. Well, aside from death.4 -
psychod787 wrote: »angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't a lifestyle just a life-long diet?
Yes and no IMHO. A diet, to me at least, is completely restrictive that give you rules you have to follow. Lifestyle change IMHO are rules to choose to follow. It's like saying, " I can't do that." Vs. " I don't do that." I believe it can change the way we look at things. Most humans will always grind again external rules, but have less trouble following their own rules.
ok. I guess that makes sense on some level... based on how certain people respond to rules and limitation and choices and such. To me, that seems like a pretty fine hair to split, but I get the point for some people.4 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't a lifestyle just a life-long diet?
Diet the noun? or diet the verb? I think @crazyravr means the verb.
Ok, so aside from comparing a verb to a noun, what's the real-world difference between the 2? When dieting, you are managing what you eat, right? Aren't you doing the same thing with lifestyle? The only difference is that one typically has an endpoint and the other inherently doesn't. Well, aside from death.
Many years ago, I saw a really cool documentary on skateboarding and the quote that struck me was that skateboarding is a lifestyle. Personally, I don't really care for the word "lifestyle", I don't use it much. All I picture are skateboarders. LOL
Your diet(the noun) could be to maintain your weight.1 -
how one eats (whether all candy bar and chips or 'healthy') is your DIET.
changing your lifestyle means you change how you think about food, how you think about activity, learning how much your body NEEDS vs WANTS. Making smarter choices without thinking twice about it. Because ... it's ingrained.
'diets' fail because people burn out on them, or reach X weight and go back to old habits because the 'diet' is over.
Lifestyles are forever.10 -
psychod787 wrote: »angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Diets will ALWAYS fail. ALWAYS.
Changing your lifestyle, never.
Not to hijack the thread, but what exactly is the difference? Isn't a lifestyle just a life-long diet?
Yes and no IMHO. A diet, to me at least, is completely restrictive that give you rules you have to follow. Lifestyle change IMHO are rules to choose to follow. It's like saying, " I can't do that." Vs. " I don't do that." I believe it can change the way we look at things. Most humans will always grind again external rules, but have less trouble following their own rules.
ok. I guess that makes sense on some level... based on how certain people respond to rules and limitation and choices and such. To me, that seems like a pretty fine hair to split, but I get the point for some people.
Personally, there is no quantifiable data to suggest that a "lifestyle change" is any different than a "diet". And to me, it's more marketing.6 -
I guess this whole diet vs lifestyle thing is too black and white for me. I think your diet, whatever that may be, is part of your lifestyle, whatever that maybe. They are not exclusive of each other.
Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled program (thread) - enough with this derailment.4 -
angelamwoodruff wrote: »Interesting episode- the part about Leptin levels hit me personally, I feel so hungry all the time.
Not to discourage, I’m gonna do it still. Just food for thought (pun intended!).
Haven't seen the netflix show, but if you are concerned about leptin, incorporate periodic diet breaks and super high carb refeeds.2 -
To me - English is not my first language, but we have a similar distinction in Norwegian - "a diet" is just what you eat. "Going on a diet" is eating in a specific, externally prescribed way with the purpose of losing weight. "Dieting" is eating less (fewer calories) with the intention of losing weight. There are also specific diets for other conditions, like diets intended to manage or alleviate the symptoms of, or prevent complications from, diabetes, epilepsy, high cholesterol etc.
I agree very much with picking good terms for what you're doing, and filling those terms with positive meaning. Many people treat "lifestyle change" as yet another diet - same sh|it, new wrapping.
I also struggled a lot with my weight, but that wasn't because I was hungry when dieting; the diet I was on, was physically sufficient, plenty of calories and nutrition to not starve - it was just that the diet was made up of foods/combinations of foods I wouldn't have eaten if I wasn't intending to lose weight.
Figuring out how to eat in a way I truly enjoy - which is food I like in amounts that keeps me healthy and my weight stable, was the gamechanger.8
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