Increase fiber intake without increasing carbs?

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  • Cbean08
    Cbean08 Posts: 1,092 Member
    Eat a Quest Bar. Most of those are 4g net carbs.
  • Safari_Gal
    Safari_Gal Posts: 888 Member
    I add chia seeds to my smoothies or make chia pudding. 1 tablespoon has 5 carbs and 4 grams of fiber. That’s 1 net carb.
  • happytree923
    happytree923 Posts: 463 Member
    Lillymoo01 wrote: »
    I run everything by my nutritionist and pcp before doing anything and they told me it's okay so I dunno.

    I'd ditch the nutritionist and find a dietician instead as they are much more highly qualified unless of course your nutritionist actually has uni qualifications.

    I work for a healthcare organization and my medically trained coworkers use dietician and nutritionist interchangeably. Because in that setting you know they're not a quack with an IIN certificate. Sounds like this person is someone the PCP recommended based on the context.
  • happytree923
    happytree923 Posts: 463 Member
    Hamsibian wrote: »
    If you see a nutritionist, then he/she should have given you tips on fiber intake.

    Low carb vegetables and fruits - leafy greens, cruciferous vegetables, berries, avocado, asparagus, cucumbers, zucchini, olives are some examples.

    I didn't ask about fiber intake, she mentioned to eat more vegetables and what not. But it wasn't a particularly long meeting because I had 5 appointments that day between my wife and I.

    Low calorie vegetables like leafy greens and cruciferous veggies should help. As mentioned above you can subtract the fiber from the carbs to get the 'real' carb count. Nuts may be a good option if you're prioritizing fat intake.
  • lisasunshn555
    lisasunshn555 Posts: 1 Member
    I suggest using avocado. It has a lot of good fat, protein and a good amount of fiber.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,092 Member
    I suggest using avocado. It has a lot of good fat, protein and a good amount of fiber.

    But it would still add 2 grams of net carbs, or about 8 grams of carb, per 100 grams of avocado.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,092 Member
    phee03r wrote: »
    Try hemp seeds IN the shell. They end up being a zero carb food once you subtract the fiber. I use Aldi brand and it has 9g fiber for 3 TBSP. Now it has 1 gram of sugar, but the only ingredients are "toasted hemp seeds, and sea salt". I add them as a topper on my salads with a creamy dressing. They are super crunchy.

    If it has 1 gram of sugar, it's not zero net carbs.
  • musicfan68
    musicfan68 Posts: 1,143 Member
    phee03r wrote: »
    Try hemp seeds IN the shell. They end up being a zero carb food once you subtract the fiber. I use Aldi brand and it has 9g fiber for 3 TBSP. Now it has 1 gram of sugar, but the only ingredients are "toasted hemp seeds, and sea salt". I add them as a topper on my salads with a creamy dressing. They are super crunchy.

    If it has 1 gram of sugar, it's not zero net carbs.

    According to what I found, 1 serving has 2 g carbs, and 2 g fiber. So it is zero carbs because you subtract the fiber from the carbs to get net carbs.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/hemp-seed-nutritional-information-3376946
  • Lillymoo01
    Lillymoo01 Posts: 2,865 Member
    musicfan68 wrote: »
    phee03r wrote: »
    Try hemp seeds IN the shell. They end up being a zero carb food once you subtract the fiber. I use Aldi brand and it has 9g fiber for 3 TBSP. Now it has 1 gram of sugar, but the only ingredients are "toasted hemp seeds, and sea salt". I add them as a topper on my salads with a creamy dressing. They are super crunchy.

    If it has 1 gram of sugar, it's not zero net carbs.

    According to what I found, 1 serving has 2 g carbs, and 2 g fiber. So it is zero carbs because you subtract the fiber from the carbs to get net carbs.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/hemp-seed-nutritional-information-3376946

    Net carbs are the carbs left after fibre has been removed. If hemp seeds contain sugar they can not be zero net carbs because sugar is not fibre. I'd go by the USDA database instead.

    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/302502
  • musicfan68
    musicfan68 Posts: 1,143 Member
    Sugar is carbs. So total carbs should also take into account the sugar. So I still stand by what I said. The 2 g of carbs should include the miniscule amount of sugar in hemp.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,092 Member
    musicfan68 wrote: »
    phee03r wrote: »
    Try hemp seeds IN the shell. They end up being a zero carb food once you subtract the fiber. I use Aldi brand and it has 9g fiber for 3 TBSP. Now it has 1 gram of sugar, but the only ingredients are "toasted hemp seeds, and sea salt". I add them as a topper on my salads with a creamy dressing. They are super crunchy.

    If it has 1 gram of sugar, it's not zero net carbs.

    According to what I found, 1 serving has 2 g carbs, and 2 g fiber. So it is zero carbs because you subtract the fiber from the carbs to get net carbs.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/hemp-seed-nutritional-information-3376946

    Sugar is a carb.

    Fiber is a carb.

    There exist carbs that are neither sugars nor fiber.

    Sugar is not fiber.

    So 1 g sugar + 2 g fiber + unknown amount of carbs that are neither sugar nor fiber = at least 3 g carbs, yet your label reports only 2 g carbs.

    It's either a rounding issue, an inaccurate or deliberately deceptive label, or you're looking at a label that reports net carbs as carbs, so you can't subtract the fiber from the reported carbs, because that's double-counting of the fiber.
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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited September 2018
    I did not read this all so I might be repeating someone.

    If constipation (hard or infrequent beyond reason BMs) is the problem for a ketoer, more fibre is usually not the solution. I would try these:

    Magnesium citrate supplement, or a magnesium oxide supplement if you want things going very fast.

    More salt. Dehydration and low electrolytes can do this to some people. Eat a half teaspoon of salt a couple times a day with lots of water.

    More fat, especially MCTs or coconut oil. Just don't increase more than a tablespoon every week or so or it could be too effective.

    Exercise.

    Coffee.

    A cup of nuts.

    Relaxation... Going to a library will do it for me. Lol

    I used to use fibre for chronic C. It just added bulk and made it worse. Limiting grains, their flour, and some plants will further reduce bulk and thefrequency that you need to use the toilet and the BM size. I have been keto a few years and I noticed a big difference in that, as well as fart frequency. Lol now I am almost a carnivore and it is quite normal to have smaller BMs every other day.

    Anyways, I would caution against too much fibre. It is NOT needed for BMs to happen easily and for some, it makes things much worse.