All Disease Begins In The Gut !

Sunshine_And_Sand

I couldn't resist clicking on this thread for the possibility of seeing some entertaining woo....
I have to say, it DID NOT dissapoint!

AnnPT77

IMO, the OP is a good example of how alt-health sources sometimes take emerging provocative but non-definitive research results, and run with them far beyond what's reasonable. Occasionally, IME over 50+ years, they turn out to have been kind of right, but their batting average is very low, and the alt-health recommendations have typically included at least an equal measure of things that turn out to be a very bad idea indeed, once solid research findings are pinned down. (No, I don't have cites for this general set of beliefs. It's pure experiential inference.)

In particular, in this OP, I think there are at least a couple of things in this category:

1. There's lots of interesting research going on with the gut microbiome. It's very preliminary and non-definitive. One aspect includes some hints that there's some connection between the gut microbiome and the immune system, as well as a role (positive or negative) for gut microbiota in certain disease states.

I haven't seen anything definitive about exactly what a healthy gut microbiome is, or how to get one, beyond the generality that the things we usually think of as a healthy diet (fiber, plenty of fruits/veggies, etc.) tend to correlate with gut microbiome diversity (diversity doesn't necessarily equal quality, BTW).

I'm not a medical researcher, but here's a survey from a fairly mainstream source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4290017/

2. There's decent evidence that regular exercise helps reduce risks of certain types of cancer, independent of body weight factors. IMU, this is correlation-type evidence, not causative. This is an area I've tended to follow, because exercise also seems to reduce risk of breast cancer metastases, non-local metastatic breast cancer is most often terminal (eventually), and I'm an 18-year survivor of stage III breast cancer with local metastases. Yes, I'm active, because I like to play good odds, and alive is a great start on the rest of my day.

For example, the American Cancer Society (an example of hidebound mainstream medical advice if there ever was one) says "Did you know that healthy eating and engaging in physical activity can lower your cancer risk? In fact, after quitting smoking, improving your diet and exercise habits are some of the most important things you can do to stay healthy." ( For more, https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/diet-exercise-and-your-cancer-risk.html).

So, personally, I think the OP is mostly inaccurate, but some of the very dismissive replies may be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. (I agree that the OP has lots of bathwater. )

Rocknut53

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

Millicent3015 wrote: »

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

Besides all the other nonsense....
Am I the only one who feels that adults should not use the word "tummy" when speaking to other adults?
Anyone older than 5 should not be using that word. It's called your stomach.

Why shouldn't adults use "tummy"? It's a cute word. I heard it comes from "tumescence', but I haven't looked up its etymology.

I just looked up the etymology for you...Websters says it's "baby-talk alteration of stomach".
And that's why I hate it...I'm an adult who doesn't like baby-talk. But, I'm also a curmudgeon who hates everything cute, so there ya go.

Hence, your name SusySunshine.

NovusDies

iowalinda wrote: »

You have contradicted yourself. Derision IS disrespectful. I am not going to argue with you, but some on this forum come across as arrogant, self-appointed "experts".

You contradicted yourself because you are arguing. As far as experts go the only one who claims to give talks and teach classes is the OP.

paperpudding

iowalinda wrote: »

earlnabby wrote: »

Also, I wish people would treat others with differing opinions with a bit more civility and respect. That doesn't seem to be asking for too much among adults, does it?

I am not going to argue with you, but some on this forum come across as arrogant, self-appointed "experts".

But not the OP, of course.

Oh wait.......

VanVanDiane

2baninja wrote: »

What is NHS?

National Health Service - in UK, paid for via everyone's National Insurance contributions from their salary. Amount paid depends on how much you earn & it's free at the point of use. Set up in the late 40s after WW2

ETA: oops already answered upthread

AnnPT77

Something makes me think OP may be somewhat new to applied "nutropath", or perhaps recovering from a backslide.

(MFP search function can be insight-provoking.)

Either way, I wish him well - sincerely!