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Diet Coke
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
If this were a concern surely they wouldn't be recommended for diabestics?! Do you have more info for the claim that they raise insulin levels? I've heard it before but only seen proof against it.
I’ve read it a few times on various websites and forums, I read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
I'm going to guess that the point of whatever you read was to scare you, since I know diabetics who drink diet soda with no visible change to their levels. It isn't something you need to do an experiment on. There are diabetics all over the world who are drinking diet soda and monitoring their levels.MsHarryWinston wrote: »Diet Coke is the devil! Don’t put that swill in your body. It turns straight to fat.
COKE ZERO FOR LIFE!
*smoke bomb*
Note: If you don’t get the joke just keep on scrolling, people, hahaha.
I’m just not a big fan of the taste of Diet Coke. I drink Coke Zero almost every day. It really helps satisfy that sugary drink craving when I want a variation from water. I really try to limit drinking my calories so that I can stuff my face with all the foods. I find that diet sodas really help. I LOVE diet root beer. Diet cream soda is also crazy good but I haven’t had it in about a year. It can be hard to find.
Agreed. Coke Zero is the pinnacle of soda supremacy. Cherry specifically, though plain is like half a half a step down. Someday I will find Vanilla Coke Zero and then I will be able to die in peace.8 -
Chemical *kitten*storm28
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Ironlady70 wrote: »Chemical *kitten*storm
Everything we eat and drink is made of chemicals.11 -
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Ironlady70 wrote: »Chemical *kitten*storm
Seriously?
Diet Coke:
INGREDIENTS
CARBONATED WATER, CARAMEL COLOR, ASPARTAME, PHOSPHORIC ACID, POTASSIUM BENZOATE (TO PROTECT TASTE), NATURAL FLAVORS, CITRIC ACID, CAFFEINE.
Coke Zero:
INGREDIENTS
CARBONATED WATER, CARAMEL COLOR, PHOSPHORIC ACID, ASPARTAME, POTASSIUM BENZOATE, NATURAL FLAVORS, POTASSIUM CITRATE, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, CAFFEINE.
Where is the *kitten*storm???8 -
Will_Workout_for_food wrote: »
Agreed. Coke Zero is the pinnacle of soda supremacy. Cherry specifically, though plain is like half a half a step down. Someday I will find Vanilla Coke Zero and then I will be able to die in peace.
vanilla coke zero is so good.
does ur fast food chain have those custom soda fountain machines? u can make your own. they have a coke zero base, and u can add lime, vanilla, cherry, etc.
I have heard tell of these magical create-your-own soda machines, but clearly the north/mid atlantic coast of the US is not a place where my soda options are fully respected.
I sometimes see regular Vanilla Coke in the store and am tempted to waste the calories on it, but ultimately decide to get the Cherry Coke Zero and continue hoping.
Can someone tell me how to pronounce acesulfame please? Is it "ace" "sulfame"? Or "Ah-seh-sulfame"? Because once I can pronounce it I can pronounce all the ingredients in Coke Zero and drink it without shame.10 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
If this were a concern surely they wouldn't be recommended for diabestics?! Do you have more info for the claim that they raise insulin levels? I've heard it before but only seen proof against it.
I’ve read it a few times on various websites and forums, I read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
I'm going to guess that the point of whatever you read was to scare you, since I know diabetics who drink diet soda with no visible change to their levels. It isn't something you need to do an experiment on. There are diabetics all over the world who are drinking diet soda and monitoring their levels.
I don’t think it was trying to scare me, it was just bringing it to my attention, it did say that these people had to drink a lot of the stuff for it to spike their insulin levels .. it’s all about the body tasting something sweet and getting prepared to have that but then when the sugar doesn’t actually come it imbalances stuff .. it was really interesting as opposed to scary21 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »
I don’t think it was trying to scare me, it was just bringing it to my attention, it did say that these people had to drink a lot of the stuff for it to spike their insulin levels .. it’s all about the body tasting something sweet and getting prepared to have that but then when the sugar doesn’t actually come it imbalances stuff .. it was really interesting as opposed to scary
The problem is, that's not how the body works. Again, this is something that is easily verifiable in a lab. The endocrine system releases insulin when it senses glucose present in the blood that needs to be ushered into your cells, it doesn't release insulin based on taste.14 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
If this were a concern surely they wouldn't be recommended for diabestics?! Do you have more info for the claim that they raise insulin levels? I've heard it before but only seen proof against it.
I’ve read it a few times on various websites and forums, I read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
It would be nice to see the actual experiment instead of a summary of an article written by someone who maybe saw the actual experiment or maybe heard about it from a friend or something who may or may not have had any qualifications to be commenting on the study. So many articles report on these studies and get them completely twisted that I don't trust anything unless I have a link to the actual science anymore.
Seriously, why would the ADA recommend diet soda for diabetics if it's potentially deadly for them?12 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
If this were a concern surely they wouldn't be recommended for diabestics?! Do you have more info for the claim that they raise insulin levels? I've heard it before but only seen proof against it.
I’ve read it a few times on various websites and forums, I read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
I'm going to guess that the point of whatever you read was to scare you, since I know diabetics who drink diet soda with no visible change to their levels. It isn't something you need to do an experiment on. There are diabetics all over the world who are drinking diet soda and monitoring their levels.MsHarryWinston wrote: »Diet Coke is the devil! Don’t put that swill in your body. It turns straight to fat.
COKE ZERO FOR LIFE!
*smoke bomb*
Note: If you don’t get the joke just keep on scrolling, people, hahaha.
I’m just not a big fan of the taste of Diet Coke. I drink Coke Zero almost every day. It really helps satisfy that sugary drink craving when I want a variation from water. I really try to limit drinking my calories so that I can stuff my face with all the foods. I find that diet sodas really help. I LOVE diet root beer. Diet cream soda is also crazy good but I haven’t had it in about a year. It can be hard to find.
Agreed. Coke Zero is the pinnacle of soda supremacy. Cherry specifically, though plain is like half a half a step down. Someday I will find Vanilla Coke Zero and then I will be able to die in peace.
The pinnacle is Cherry Vanilla Coke Zero, but I can only get it in the Coca-Cola Freestyle Machines.
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Your opinion is not backed by any kind of scientific fact.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »...but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain.
Not really scary, because it's completely untrue.Mandylou19912014 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
If this were a concern surely they wouldn't be recommended for diabestics?! Do you have more info for the claim that they raise insulin levels? I've heard it before but only seen proof against it.
I’ve read it a few times on various websites and forums, I read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
It sounds like the kind of fearmongering one would find from some quack such as Mercola.
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Stockholm_Andy wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Diet Coke is the devil! Don’t put that swill in your body. It turns straight to fat.
COKE ZERO FOR LIFE!
*smoke bomb*
Oh how could you MsW Zero tastes of Coke. Diet all the way for me. I'm institutionalised to its 90s taste.
I'm drinking a can now while my daughter's have Skate practice.
Hahahahaha.
I’ve always liked Coke more than Pepsi, but Diet Pepsi more than Diet Coke. I think I like Coke Zero because to me it tastes the closest to regular Coke. There is a flavor note in Diet Coke that just hits my tastebuds the wrong way and tastes “off” to me. I mean, I’ll drink Diet Coke if there’s no Zero around, it’s just not my first preference.
Lol the hyperbole was just me being cheeky. I don’t think there are any diet sodas that I actively dislike to the point that I would straight up refuse to drink it.
Wave that Diet Coke high and with pride.
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MsHarryWinston wrote: »Stockholm_Andy wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Diet Coke is the devil! Don’t put that swill in your body. It turns straight to fat.
COKE ZERO FOR LIFE!
*smoke bomb*
Oh how could you MsW Zero tastes of Coke. Diet all the way for me. I'm institutionalised to its 90s taste.
I'm drinking a can now while my daughter's have Skate practice.
Hahahahaha.
I’ve always liked Coke more than Pepsi, but Diet Pepsi more than Diet Coke. I think I like Coke Zero because to me it tastes the closest to regular Coke. There is a flavor note in Diet Coke that just hits my tastebuds the wrong way and tastes “off” to me. I mean, I’ll drink Diet Coke if there’s no Zero around, it’s just not my first preference.
Lol the hyperbole was just me being cheeky. I don’t think there are any diet sodas that I actively dislike to the point that I would straight up refuse to drink it.
Wave that Diet Coke high and with pride.
I'm not at all picky with diet sodas, although I do have preferences. There have been just two that I remember not being able to stand at all: diet RC and Zevia's "Doctor Zevia" (their take on Dr Pepper).0 -
I'm quite jealous of folks who can easily find Cherry Zero, especially by the single bottle in convenience stores. Diet Dr. Pepper is a little easier to find. I'd have one every day if cold single bottles were easily located.2
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While I like Coke Zero with a splash of Orange, as it takes me back to the late 1980s in Germany where I could get Mezzo Mix, I’ve been on a Fresca kick the past month.
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Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think it was trying to scare me ... it was really interesting as opposed to scary
Meanwhile in your previous postI read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
Insulin and glucagon expression and release are regulated on the basis of blood glucose level, not by your taste buds. People who have had their tounges cut out aren't suddenly diabetics incapable of insulin production.
Regardless can you explain why raised insulin levels are scary? I've heard people act like insulin is some sort of boogie man and I dont get it. Your body homeostatically regulates blood glucose levels because it is important for your cellular function to maintain a certain concentration of glucose.
When your blood glucose is too low your pancreas releases the hormone glucagon which triggers your cells to break down the storage molecule glycogen and liberate glucose into your blood. If your blood glucose is too high then your pancreas releases the hormone insulin which triggers your cells to uptake glucose from your blood and either utilize it for energy or store it as glycogen. That is it.
Having elevated insulin levels isnt scary...it just means your body is appropriately responding to your blood glucose level being too high. If that regulatory system is dysfunctional then you are diabetic...either because you cannot produce insulin (type I) or because your cells receptors dont bind insulin to transmit the signal for uptake (type II).20 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
Whether drinking diet soda increases insulin levels or not is not a matter of opinion it is a claim about objective reality....it is either true or false. How you or I feel about it doesn't matter.17 -
jamieblack7708 wrote: »I'd love to hear some debate on drinking diet coke while attempting to lose weight by counting calories. 😁
Weight loss is achieved by a Calorie Deficit resulting from the difference between your Calories In and your Calories Out. Diet Coke therefore should be okay, as it has almost no calories, and wouldn't hinder you from reaching a deficit.
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jamieblack7708 wrote: »I'd love to hear some debate on drinking diet coke while attempting to lose weight by counting calories. 😁
Weight loss is achieved by a Calorie Deficit resulting from the difference between your Calories In and your Calories Out. Diet Coke therefore should be okay, as it has almost no calories, and wouldn't hinder you from reaching a deficit.
Unless you're drinking in the neighborhood of 300-400 cans of Diet Coke per day.
In which case, the Diet Coke potentially stalling your weight loss is the least of your worries.12 -
janejellyroll wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Stockholm_Andy wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »Diet Coke is the devil! Don’t put that swill in your body. It turns straight to fat.
COKE ZERO FOR LIFE!
*smoke bomb*
Oh how could you MsW Zero tastes of Coke. Diet all the way for me. I'm institutionalised to its 90s taste.
I'm drinking a can now while my daughter's have Skate practice.
Hahahahaha.
I’ve always liked Coke more than Pepsi, but Diet Pepsi more than Diet Coke. I think I like Coke Zero because to me it tastes the closest to regular Coke. There is a flavor note in Diet Coke that just hits my tastebuds the wrong way and tastes “off” to me. I mean, I’ll drink Diet Coke if there’s no Zero around, it’s just not my first preference.
Lol the hyperbole was just me being cheeky. I don’t think there are any diet sodas that I actively dislike to the point that I would straight up refuse to drink it.
Wave that Diet Coke high and with pride.
I'm not at all picky with diet sodas, although I do have preferences. There have been just two that I remember not being able to stand at all: diet RC and Zevia's "Doctor Zevia" (their take on Dr Pepper).
On the subject of taste - which isn't really a debate but hey-ho - I like Pepsi max and Coke Zero.
I don't mind Diet Coke but not my preference as it does have more of a chemically taste to me.
I do not like non cola diet sodas as they all taste chemically. I think cola taste is stronger taste and covers this up more.
I also don't like flavoured colas - cherry, vanilla etc.
And I do remember a spearmint ( peppermint?) Coke a few years back,not sure if that is still around anywhere - tasted like a toothpaste and Coke combo
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A single can won't hurt but I have stopped drinking sodas a year ago.3
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NO artifically flavored soda period. Flavored waters are much better for you29
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jamesjeffsmith wrote: »NO artifically flavored soda period. Flavored waters are much better for you
I love those zero calorie water flavorings that come in tiny squeezie bottles. It really helps with variety. Fruit punch, iced tea, kool aid, and all zero cal. Love it!1 -
jamesjeffsmith wrote: »NO artifically flavored soda period. Flavored waters are much better for you
Because the carbon dioxide and artificial flavors/sweeteners in flavored waters are so much healthier than the (identical) carbon dioxide and artificial flavors/sweeteners in diet soda.
Always makes me laugh when I see someone get all sanctimonious about soda, then say that they drink something like water flavored with Mio instead. Go read the ingredients in Mio and compare them to a can of diet soda, lol.24 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think it was trying to scare me ... it was really interesting as opposed to scary
Meanwhile in your previous postI read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
Insulin and glucagon expression and release are regulated on the basis of blood glucose level, not by your taste buds. People who have had their tounges cut out aren't suddenly diabetics incapable of insulin production.
Regardless can you explain why raised insulin levels are scary? I've heard people act like insulin is some sort of boogie man and I dont get it. Your body homeostatically regulates blood glucose levels because it is important for your cellular function to maintain a certain concentration of glucose.
When your blood glucose is too low your pancreas releases the hormone glucagon which triggers your cells to break down the storage molecule glycogen and liberate glucose into your blood. If your blood glucose is too high then your pancreas releases the hormone insulin which triggers your cells to uptake glucose from your blood and either utilize it for energy or store it as glycogen. That is it.
Having elevated insulin levels isnt scary...it just means your body is appropriately responding to your blood glucose level being too high. If that regulatory system is dysfunctional then you are diabetic...either because you cannot produce insulin (type I) or because your cells receptors dont bind insulin to transmit the signal for uptake (type II).
I get your first point, yes I sort of contradicted myself there whoops .. but the reason I find it scary that these diet sodas can raise insulin levels (if only drank in large quantities and certainly not for just one or two a day) Is that too much insulin can lead to serious health problems. Having high levels, also known as hyperinsulinemia, has been linked to obesity, heart disease and cancer (1, 2, 3). High blood insulin levels also cause your cells to become resistant to the hormone's effects.23 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I get your first point, yes I sort of contradicted myself there whoops .. but the reason I find it scary that these diet sodas can raise insulin levels (if only drank in large quantities and certainly not for just one or two a day) Is that too much insulin can lead to serious health problems. Having high levels, also known as hyperinsulinemia, has been linked to obesity, heart disease and cancer (1, 2, 3). High blood insulin levels also cause your cells to become resistant to the hormone's effects.
NO, THEY CAN NOT.
That's been made abundantly scientifically clear. Additionally, the person who responded to you above isn't some hack/quack blogger, he's a molecular biologist. Are you a molecular biologist as well?21 -
Well the post prior really did make it abundantly clear - and yet you still went on rabbiting down the same rabbit hole.
I can never see why some people find insulin spikes scary (and diet soda doesnt cause insulin spikes anyway) - but things like regular soda, jelly babies, bread, oranges etc do - and so they should.
The body releases insulin in response to glucose in the blood stream in order to regulate one's blood sugar level.
The problem for diabetics is not insulin spikes - it is the lack of natural insulin spiking in response to blood glucose.
I am not a molecular bioligist btw - just a nurse who has a basic understanding of blood glucose physiology.
and really, you only need a basic level of understanding to get this - it isnt a complex concept.14 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think it was trying to scare me ... it was really interesting as opposed to scary
Meanwhile in your previous postI read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
Insulin and glucagon expression and release are regulated on the basis of blood glucose level, not by your taste buds. People who have had their tounges cut out aren't suddenly diabetics incapable of insulin production.
Regardless can you explain why raised insulin levels are scary? I've heard people act like insulin is some sort of boogie man and I dont get it. Your body homeostatically regulates blood glucose levels because it is important for your cellular function to maintain a certain concentration of glucose.
When your blood glucose is too low your pancreas releases the hormone glucagon which triggers your cells to break down the storage molecule glycogen and liberate glucose into your blood. If your blood glucose is too high then your pancreas releases the hormone insulin which triggers your cells to uptake glucose from your blood and either utilize it for energy or store it as glycogen. That is it.
Having elevated insulin levels isnt scary...it just means your body is appropriately responding to your blood glucose level being too high. If that regulatory system is dysfunctional then you are diabetic...either because you cannot produce insulin (type I) or because your cells receptors dont bind insulin to transmit the signal for uptake (type II).
I get your first point, yes I sort of contradicted myself there whoops .. but the reason I find it scary that these diet sodas can raise insulin levels (if only drank in large quantities and certainly not for just one or two a day) Is that too much insulin can lead to serious health problems. Having high levels, also known as hyperinsulinemia, has been linked to obesity, heart disease and cancer (1, 2, 3). High blood insulin levels also cause your cells to become resistant to the hormone's effects.
How many diet cokes do you think it would take to create an insulin response and who do you think is drinking this much? Do you not think that these same people are more likely eating foods that are more likely responsible for this insulin response?8 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest that it’s bad for you, but in my opinion diet sodas are pumped with artificial sweeteners which if you drank a lot of can increase your insulin levels which could lead to weight gain. If you drink it moderately then you’ll be absolutely fine
If this were a concern surely they wouldn't be recommended for diabestics?! Do you have more info for the claim that they raise insulin levels? I've heard it before but only seen proof against it.
I’ve read it a few times on various websites and forums, I read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
Don't believe what you read on the internet. Many diabetics (including myself) have tested that theory and not a single one had their blood sugar rise after drinking a diet soda.10 -
Mandylou19912014 wrote: »Aaron_K123 wrote: »Mandylou19912014 wrote: »I don’t think it was trying to scare me ... it was really interesting as opposed to scary
Meanwhile in your previous postI read that they made people drink Diet Coke and normal coke in some expeiriment and those drinking Diet Coke has raised insulin levels which is a scary though!
Insulin and glucagon expression and release are regulated on the basis of blood glucose level, not by your taste buds. People who have had their tounges cut out aren't suddenly diabetics incapable of insulin production.
Regardless can you explain why raised insulin levels are scary? I've heard people act like insulin is some sort of boogie man and I dont get it. Your body homeostatically regulates blood glucose levels because it is important for your cellular function to maintain a certain concentration of glucose.
When your blood glucose is too low your pancreas releases the hormone glucagon which triggers your cells to break down the storage molecule glycogen and liberate glucose into your blood. If your blood glucose is too high then your pancreas releases the hormone insulin which triggers your cells to uptake glucose from your blood and either utilize it for energy or store it as glycogen. That is it.
Having elevated insulin levels isnt scary...it just means your body is appropriately responding to your blood glucose level being too high. If that regulatory system is dysfunctional then you are diabetic...either because you cannot produce insulin (type I) or because your cells receptors dont bind insulin to transmit the signal for uptake (type II).
I get your first point, yes I sort of contradicted myself there whoops .. but the reason I find it scary that these diet sodas can raise insulin levels (if only drank in large quantities and certainly not for just one or two a day) Is that too much insulin can lead to serious health problems. Having high levels, also known as hyperinsulinemia, has been linked to obesity, heart disease and cancer (1, 2, 3). High blood insulin levels also cause your cells to become resistant to the hormone's effects.
I assume (1,2,3) is a citation list you didn't include and therefore I assume that was just copy paste from somewhere. Where are you copy pasting this from?
I find this frustrating because it means I'm not responding to you and your thoughts I am just basically talking to an anonymous website.19
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