Vegan Ketogenic diet

Leeb1205

Anyone out there been doing this for some time and found great success?

dhimaan

Lol. The world is really starting to go crazy right before my eyes. Vegan keto diet. I can only wonder what is next.

mph323

https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10694807/starting-the-vegan-keto-lifestyle-diet#latest

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Lillymoo01

All I will say is good luck. With keto typically being low carb and high fat and vegan being high carb and lower in protein and fat it will be hard to achieve, and rather restrictive. It is achievable though, just not easy to accomplish.

Caralarma

Sounds like my worst nightmare but good luck with that

Running_and_Coffee

I am doing keto and cannot imagine how limited my menu would be with no dairy or meat or fish. But good luck--I know it CAN be done...

NorthCascades

So ... who loves cauliflower?

cwolfman13

It can be done, but it will be extremely restrictive and your options will be very narrow...they aren't particularly compatible WOEs.

LiLee2018

I'm keto, but I can't imagine being vegan trying to do it. How about just being a raw food vegan? That would eliminate a lot of carbs (if you don't have too much fruit) and encourage just good fresh foods.

janejellyroll

LiLee2018 wrote: »

I'm keto, but I can't imagine being vegan trying to do it. How about just being a raw food vegan? That would eliminate a lot of carbs (if you don't have too much fruit) and encourage just good fresh foods.

Wait, what? Most raw food vegan diets tend to be higher in carbohydrates, even if fruit is somewhat limited. Unless you're trying to live on nuts, you're going to be eating a lot of vegetables.

What's the benefit for OP in adopting this way of life?

LiLee2018

It's a lot of fiber too. Didn't say it would be low enough carb to get in to ketosis, but still eliminating processed foods such as pasta, soy products, etc that are packed with wheat and sugar, etc would help to at leat be lower carb.
And what do you mean what's the benefit? What's the benefit to eating a REAL food diet?? Really?

estherdragonbat

I didn't know that cooked food was imaginary. Guess I'm really having a light supper tonight, then.

janejellyroll

LiLee2018 wrote: »

It's a lot of fiber too. Didn't say it would be low enough carb to get in to ketosis, but still eliminating processed foods such as pasta, soy products, etc that are packed with wheat and sugar, etc would help to at leat be lower carb.
And what do you mean what's the benefit? What's the benefit to eating a REAL food diet?? Really?

Would it be lower carbohydrate? Vegetables are mostly carbohydrate.

I didn't ask what the benefit to a "REAL food diet" was (whatever that means). I asked what the benefit was of OP arbitrarily eliminating cooked foods. What is this going to accomplish?

If one wants to eliminate pasta or soy products (for whatever benefits that is supposed to provide), why not just do that? Why also eliminate all non-raw foods?

Sunshine_And_Sand

Is there any particular reason you want to combine two pretty much opposing ways of eating?
Short of some sort of medical reason, most people would probably find that combination too restrictive to be sustainable.
Good luck if you try it.

dangerousdashie

I know people who do plant based keto. Definitely possible. You may need to make some adjustments like using low carb vegetarian protein powders to get your protein since vegan protein sources are higher carb.

Keto_N_Iron

uhhhhh no?

kshama2001

LiLee2018 wrote: »

I'm keto, but I can't imagine being vegan trying to do it. How about just being a raw food vegan? That would eliminate a lot of carbs (if you don't have too much fruit) and encourage just good fresh foods.

I lived with several dedicated ethical vegans who tried raw vegan for a few months. They all gave it up as unsustainable.

(This was not due to lack of variety of food - we lived in a vegetarian yoga center with vegan cooks and had kitchen privileges to a fully stocked kitchen.)

RonyMack

dhimaan wrote: »

Lol. The world is really starting to go crazy right before my eyes. Vegan keto diet. I can only wonder what is next.

A vegan keto alternate-day detox grapefruit diet?

mph323

Your biggest challenge is going to be getting enough protein. I would target that first. Getting your fats in is much easier when restricting animal products than getting in protein (and iron). Make sure you're supplementing B-12.

Remember weight goals (lose, maintain, gain) depend on calories, so if you are also calorie-restricted, it may be difficult to eat enough allowed foods to meet your daily nutritional needs, so keep focused on that as well.

eminater

I am plant-based, (so basically HIGH on Carbs), but I do also love Protein and Fats, but also much of my diet is veggies and legumes, which are high in carbs and moderate in protein. I do eat Avocados a lot (high in oil/fat) and I also love nuts (oils and proteins). To meet my nutritional goal I need to eat a lot of Veggies and a lot of Legumes.

For example, I track mostly micro-nutrients such as Calcium, Iron, Potassium, Selenium, Vit Bs. (I have to do this as I am calorie-restricting atm to help with weight loss, so I need to be kinda careful on plant-based, it's easy to get a deficiency otherwise).

When I eat a really balanced plant-based diet that allows me to hit my overall micro-nutritional goals, like for Calcium, Iron, Vitamins, Selenium, Omega 3s etc ... my macros land about about 50% Carb, 30% fat, 20% protein most days. But some days my carb will be up around 60%, it's the fats that go down.

I am not sure how you can get enough plant-based protein without the carbs. I rely on legumes and pulses mainly. If I could rely on nuts for protein, I doubt I could do it within my calories allowance, given all the other nutritional considerations.

Well, I have dreamed of Keto - I heard its a fat-burning state of being, but then again, as a plant-based person, I have learned to embrace the "healthy carb".

Cbean08

Vegan keto is essentially non starchy vegetables, fat sources (nuts, avocado, vegan butter, vegan mayo, oil), plant based protein (tofu, seitan, tempeh) and limited amounts of starches that contain protein (beans, quinoa, oats). Consider finding a solid plant based protein powder to supplement on days when you are low on protein.

It's a lot of planning and you might find it very hard to eat away from your own cooking, which can impact any social events you might attend. It's not impossible to follow, but if you don't already like the foods listed, you might have a hard time adjusting.

vingogly

You don't have to go to a keto diet to lose weight. Why make things difficult for yourself? Make it difficult enough, you'll start resenting the limitations and planning and next thing you know, you'll be putting the pounds back on again.

Seffell

You could drink sunflower oil. Not very nutritious though.

FlyingMolly

Are you cool with never again being able to eat a single meal or snack you didn’t prepare yourself? You can navigate restaurants and prepared foods on keto or as a vegan, but once you put them together it’s hard to imagine you’d have a single option that didn’t come from your own kitchen. Which is tough, lifestyle-wise.