Protein/supplements suggestions...

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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    Your main source of protein should be lean meats, beef, chicken, pork, etc. For protein supplements to get to your protein targets I use whey protein isolate and whole fat plain greek yogurt which I add to a daily green smoothie. You can also add the whey to the greek yogurt for a little simple high protein snack.

    Are you saying that everyone's main source of protein should be lean meats or is this recommendation specific to OP?

    I think so, yes. Eggs are good too.

    What about dairy or seafood? Some veg can also bump up protein...
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    Your main source of protein should be lean meats, beef, chicken, pork, etc. For protein supplements to get to your protein targets I use whey protein isolate and whole fat plain greek yogurt which I add to a daily green smoothie. You can also add the whey to the greek yogurt for a little simple high protein snack.

    Are you saying that everyone's main source of protein should be lean meats or is this recommendation specific to OP?

    I think so, yes. Eggs are good too.

    What if someone's main sources of protein were beans, grains, tofu, tempeh, and seitan? Is there a problem with that?

  • bpotts44
    bpotts44 Posts: 1,066 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    Your main source of protein should be lean meats, beef, chicken, pork, etc. For protein supplements to get to your protein targets I use whey protein isolate and whole fat plain greek yogurt which I add to a daily green smoothie. You can also add the whey to the greek yogurt for a little simple high protein snack.

    Are you saying that everyone's main source of protein should be lean meats or is this recommendation specific to OP?

    I think so, yes. Eggs are good too.

    What if someone's main sources of protein were beans, grains, tofu, tempeh, and seitan? Is there a problem with that?

    Not really as long as they are supplementing for Vitamin B12, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, essential fatty acids and your fat soluble vitamins like A and D.
  • bpotts44
    bpotts44 Posts: 1,066 Member
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    Your main source of protein should be lean meats, beef, chicken, pork, etc. For protein supplements to get to your protein targets I use whey protein isolate and whole fat plain greek yogurt which I add to a daily green smoothie. You can also add the whey to the greek yogurt for a little simple high protein snack.

    Are you saying that everyone's main source of protein should be lean meats or is this recommendation specific to OP?

    I think so, yes. Eggs are good too.

    What about dairy or seafood? Some veg can also bump up protein...

    I don't think diary and seafood should be your main source. There is no problem incorporating them into the diet. Seafood is good for alot of different nutrients.
  • bpotts44
    bpotts44 Posts: 1,066 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    Your main source of protein should be lean meats, beef, chicken, pork, etc. For protein supplements to get to your protein targets I use whey protein isolate and whole fat plain greek yogurt which I add to a daily green smoothie. You can also add the whey to the greek yogurt for a little simple high protein snack.

    Are you saying that everyone's main source of protein should be lean meats or is this recommendation specific to OP?

    I think so, yes. Eggs are good too.

    What if someone's main sources of protein were beans, grains, tofu, tempeh, and seitan? Is there a problem with that?

    Not really as long as they are supplementing for Vitamin B12, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, essential fatty acids and your fat soluble vitamins like A and D.

    I think you may be confused as to what we're discussing here. Some people who use beans, grains, tofu, tempeh, and seitan as main sources of protein may need to supplement for these things. Other people may not. A blanket recommendation for everyone who doesn't use lean meats as their *main source* of protein to supplement all these doesn't really make sense.

    Some of these supplements may be simply unnecessary but harmless. But supplementing iron, when you may be getting enough from your diet, is actually contrary to current medical recommendations. Supplementing Vitamin A, when it's abundantly available in many plant-based foods, doesn't seem to be related to the topic at all. Are lean meats even a good source of calcium? I'm not aware of any that have a lot of it, so I'm not sure why someone would need to supplement calcium if they're not eating them.

    So I'm still not clear as to why lean meats *should* be someone's main source of protein. I think it's more accurate to say they *can* be a main source of protein, but there are other foods that can fill that role as well. They can be eaten in conjunction with a diet that includes lean meats or they can be eaten instead of lean meats. It's a matter of personal preference.

    The OP was asking about protein supplements. It is my opinion based upon the weight of the literature that lean meats are the most nutrient dense protein source that you can consume; therefore, I recommended the OP take a look at lean meats before they seek to meet their protein goals through supplements. I also made a recommendation for whey protein isolate and plain greek yogurt if the lean meats weren't an option.

    I'm not disputing that lean meat can be eaten in conjunction with other sources of protein or not eaten at all. However, I do think that lean meats provide the most nutrients compared to other sources.

  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    bpotts44 wrote: »
    Your main source of protein should be lean meats, beef, chicken, pork, etc. For protein supplements to get to your protein targets I use whey protein isolate and whole fat plain greek yogurt which I add to a daily green smoothie. You can also add the whey to the greek yogurt for a little simple high protein snack.

    Are you saying that everyone's main source of protein should be lean meats or is this recommendation specific to OP?

    I think so, yes. Eggs are good too.

    What if someone's main sources of protein were beans, grains, tofu, tempeh, and seitan? Is there a problem with that?

    Not really as long as they are supplementing for Vitamin B12, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, essential fatty acids and your fat soluble vitamins like A and D.

    I think you may be confused as to what we're discussing here. Some people who use beans, grains, tofu, tempeh, and seitan as main sources of protein may need to supplement for these things. Other people may not. A blanket recommendation for everyone who doesn't use lean meats as their *main source* of protein to supplement all these doesn't really make sense.

    Some of these supplements may be simply unnecessary but harmless. But supplementing iron, when you may be getting enough from your diet, is actually contrary to current medical recommendations. Supplementing Vitamin A, when it's abundantly available in many plant-based foods, doesn't seem to be related to the topic at all. Are lean meats even a good source of calcium? I'm not aware of any that have a lot of it, so I'm not sure why someone would need to supplement calcium if they're not eating them.

    So I'm still not clear as to why lean meats *should* be someone's main source of protein. I think it's more accurate to say they *can* be a main source of protein, but there are other foods that can fill that role as well. They can be eaten in conjunction with a diet that includes lean meats or they can be eaten instead of lean meats. It's a matter of personal preference.

    The OP was asking about protein supplements. It is my opinion based upon the weight of the literature that lean meats are the most nutrient dense protein source that you can consume; therefore, I recommended the OP take a look at lean meats before they seek to meet their protein goals through supplements. I also made a recommendation for whey protein isolate and plain greek yogurt if the lean meats weren't an option.

    I'm not disputing that lean meat can be eaten in conjunction with other sources of protein or not eaten at all. However, I do think that lean meats provide the most nutrients compared to other sources.

    What you're saying is that lean meats can be a good source of protein and that they also provide other nutrients. I don't think anyone disputes that.

    My specific challenge was to the statement that lean meats *should* be the main source of protein. While they certainly can be, there is a wide range of diets that can meet human nutritional needs, including those that include lean meats less frequently or even not at all.
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