KETO diet?

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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited October 2018
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    mmapags wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    I could never do keto or any other diet that restricts what I can eat. All of my success is based on calories in, calories out (down 47 lbs since March). I always feel kind of bad for my friends doing keto/fad diets. I’ve found it’s not necessary to lose weight. Eat what you want but in moderation! Choose a way of eating that is actually sustainable long term.

    Technically all diets do CICO. My success is based on CICO too.

    All diets restrict something too. Some diets restrict a little bit of everything; it sounds like that's what you do. I only restricted carbs - mainly sugar and grains- and did not restrict other foods at all. Some of my foods actually increased.
    KatieeM14 wrote: »
    I tried keto for a few months and while it did work, it’s not something I can see myself doing long term. A diet that tells me I’m not allowed to eat fruit isn’t a diet for me. I like my apples and oranges!

    How much fruit one eats will vary. Some people use fruit for most of their carbs.

    Technically speaking, most of the carbs I ate were fruits although most call them vegetables: peppers, cucumbers, squash, pumpkin, tomato, olives, coconut, avocado, nuts, berries, snap peas, etc.

    But yes, most low carbers limit or avoid high carb fruits - usually dried fruits or tropical fruits.

    Exactly how do you "do" CICO?

    If you eat and live, you are consuming calories and using calories. Every diet "does" CICO.
  • hrafnkat
    hrafnkat Posts: 10 Member
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    milowen wrote: »
    I've been doing keto with IF for just over 2 months. After the first 10 days, my A1C had dropped significantly (from over 10 to 6).

    The A1C is a test that gives a reading for blood glucose levels averaged over 2 to 3 months. There's no way that anyone could change their A1C significantly in just 10 days - any results would include the prior 50-80 days in the calculation (in addition to those 10 days). It just isn't a large enough percentage of the total 2-3 month timespan to make much difference.

    If your A1C changed that much, one of your blood tests had an error in it.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    hrafnkat wrote: »
    milowen wrote: »
    I've been doing keto with IF for just over 2 months. After the first 10 days, my A1C had dropped significantly (from over 10 to 6).

    The A1C is a test that gives a reading for blood glucose levels averaged over 2 to 3 months. There's no way that anyone could change their A1C significantly in just 10 days - any results would include the prior 50-80 days in the calculation (in addition to those 10 days). It just isn't a large enough percentage of the total 2-3 month timespan to make much difference.

    If your A1C changed that much, one of your blood tests had an error in it.

    That's possible too, but A1C is greatly influenced by your most recent meals. It is possible that it changed significantly in a couple of weeks, although that was quite a change.

    Perhaps it was a blood glucose reading instead. A BG change that large in ten days would more common, for sure.
  • milowen
    milowen Posts: 40 Member
    edited October 2018
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    The A1C is a test that gives a reading for blood glucose levels averaged over 2 to 3 months. There's no way that anyone could change their A1C significantly in just 10 days - any results would include the prior 50-80 days in the calculation (in addition to those 10 days). It just isn't a large enough percentage of the total 2-3 month timespan to make much difference.

    If your A1C changed that much, one of your blood tests had an error in it.

    Yes, that's true! I tend to write a lot so I made a unrealistic statement for brevity. My A1C was around 10.6 in late May. My doctor maxed me out on 3 blood sugar medications.
    I started keto/IF August 7th, 10 days prior to my next fasting bloodwork and my A1C was just over 6. My glucose levels were never over 95 even after meals, so I immediately dropped 2 medications (Onglyza and Actos) and 75% of Metformin.
    At this point, my numbers have rebounded a bit, but I haven't seen a glucose reading over 130. Previously, I went for years with none below that number.
    I'm hoping that when I get my next check in a month or so that I can eliminate the last of my diabetes and high blood pressure medication.
    So yes, even though I had a dramatic drop in blood glucose, my overall A1C was a trend that began with an increase in medication--and one that I think I've done a pretty awesome job of continuing :smile: 33lbs in 9 weeks and a whole new outlook on my future health.