Asian/Japanese/sushi all-you-can-eat buffet, "cheat-day"?

DvoycY
DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
edited November 29 in Food and Nutrition
Hello. :-)

If I am planning to go to such a place, what are the recommendations of what to eat to minimize the fat-gain? I was thinking lean protein (chicken) and grain carbohydrates (like sushi with rice). Also some vegetables to minimize the total calories. Also, to drink some fluids just before to feel more satiated.

I am going for lunch, as breakfast seems too early and leaves a possibility of eating more in the night, and evening meal is too late for the food to properly start moving.

Any thoughts or tips? :-D

Cheers!

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  • DvoycY
    DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    What is the point of this 'cheat day'?

    Restoring leptin and ghrelin after ten months of cutting. :-)
  • neugebauer52
    neugebauer52 Posts: 1,120 Member
    Over the years I have learned to handle "normal" buffets (well, sort of) but sushi as much as you can eat? That's another story. Usually I eat about 50 + sushi rolls (pieces) and the restaurant owner doesn't smile much when he sees me coming. I really, really enjoy this special treat about once or twice a year and I leave it as that.
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    DvoycY wrote: »
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    What is the point of this 'cheat day'?

    Restoring leptin and ghrelin after ten months of cutting. :-)

    Maybe a diet break might help? One meal is going to do next to nothing for that.
  • DvoycY
    DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
    Hey. Thanks for the replies. Since getting close to my goal weight, I have such days nearly every five days for the last couple of weeks - feel much better but the weight loss reduced from two pounds per week to like 0.5
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    What are your stats? How much left do you have to lose?
  • DvoycY
    DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
    24, 5'10", 135lbs, 8% bf, 5 more lbs, 29" waist. Thanks
  • Hamsibian
    Hamsibian Posts: 1,388 Member
    edited October 2018
    Nm
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    5 more lbs will put you a hair above underweight. Is there a reason you are aiming so low, especially being a male? What are your goals?
  • DvoycY
    DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    5 more lbs will put you a hair above underweight. Is there a reason you are aiming so low, especially being a male? What are your goals?

    Recomp at the lowest possible healthy weight. Need low bf for the job
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    DvoycY wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    5 more lbs will put you a hair above underweight. Is there a reason you are aiming so low, especially being a male? What are your goals?

    Recomp at the lowest possible healthy weight. Need low bf for the job

    i thought recomp worked less well the leaner you were?
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    TavistockToad wrote: »
    DvoycY wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    5 more lbs will put you a hair above underweight. Is there a reason you are aiming so low, especially being a male? What are your goals?

    Recomp at the lowest possible healthy weight. Need low bf for the job

    i thought recomp worked less well the leaner you were?

    Yea that is what I have heard too. From my understanding, recomp works best if you have something to work with... so you are at a higher bodyfat % and a healthy weight. Being a very low weight with a very low bodyfat%, you are likely to spin your wheels. If your goal is to be very ultra lean with not a large muscle base, then perhaps it might work.
  • jjpptt2
    jjpptt2 Posts: 5,650 Member
    edited October 2018
    never mind.
  • DvoycY
    DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
    What would you say are the best things to eat to minimize the fat gain? I was thinking lean protein, followed up by healthy carbohydrates - to begin with salad, eat some meat and finish with grains.
  • MikePTY
    MikePTY Posts: 3,814 Member
    Don't worry too much about one meal.But if you are doing sushi, focus on sushi that has the least amount of rice (sashimi if it is available), and if you are getting rolls, try to avoid rolls that are tempura (baked) or have cream cheese or a lot of sauces.
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    edited October 2018
    DvoycY wrote: »
    What would you say are the best things to eat to minimize the fat gain? I was thinking lean protein, followed up by healthy carbohydrates - to begin with salad, eat some meat and finish with grains.

    It is one meal. I suppose whatever keeps you in maintenance for the week. If you have lean protein and carbs and are in a surplus, then it is still a surplus. And in the end fat gain happens with consistent surplus over time.

    However I would recommend if you are that concerned over one day of eating, being as lean as you are, you might want to stop and re-evaluate why you are so fearful of one meal causing fat gain.
  • DvoycY
    DvoycY Posts: 38 Member
    Very good points everyone, very helpful and means a lot. Considering I am near my goal weight I am fine with somewhat a lower deficit. Finally, I had this today: https://imgur.com/a/PkwnfOd Calories are just an estimation but should be decent. Wanted to hit about 4-4.5K today as the next cheat-day is this Sunday but oh well. In the worst case I will maintain and be more rational next time. Open to critique on calorie count. Cheers
  • Kimmotion5783
    Kimmotion5783 Posts: 417 Member
    edited October 2018
    Dvoyc I completely understand what you're going through- going out to eat Italian food with a friend friday night and been surveying the options on the menu. It's just one meal, don't beat yourself up over it. It'll be okay. Even if you ate the healthiest thing on the menu, there's still a chance of a little water weight happening. But water weight will fall right back off in a couple days.

    Just my two cents on the subject: if there is something really special on the menu that you can't make at home, can't get anywhere else and you're not going to have it again for a long time, go for that. Make it a treat, have yourself a nice night out and go for something really special.

    For example I'm going for Italian food, so I'll probably opt for a veal dish with a small side salad to start. It's something I wouldn't normally have everyday, I don't yet know how to cook it, so I probably won't be having it anytime soon. It will be something special and yet I'm not denying myself anything or beating myself up over it afterwards. The key is balance.
  • pinggolfer96
    pinggolfer96 Posts: 2,248 Member
    Lol restore lepton and ghrelin after one meal and ten months of cutting.....yeah I wouldn’t focus on those hormones cause they wont be restored like you would with a prolonged refeed or reverse diet. I would rather look at it as holy shyt I’ve Been cutting for ten months I’m gonna enjoy this ayce sushi. What’s a cheat if you’re worried about fat gain...??
  • Kimmotion5783
    Kimmotion5783 Posts: 417 Member
    I found a really helpful article on Livestrong.com that gives you an idea of healthier restaurant options and sharing in case this helps anyone:

    https://www.livestrong.com/slideshow/1006937-order-and-avoid-restaurant-food/?slide=1
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Kimmotion5783 wrote: »
    I found a really helpful article on Livestrong.com that gives you an idea of healthier restaurant options and sharing in case this helps anyone:

    https://www.livestrong.com/slideshow/1006937-order-and-avoid-restaurant-food/?slide=1

    I think this type of advice could be helpful for people who eat out often, but I'd rather eat out less often and order things that I truly enjoy. Life is too short to never enjoy a delicious coconut milk curry.
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