My December 2018 IF feeding window

pinggolfer96

jjpptt2 wrote: »

pinggolfer96 wrote: »

rsclause wrote: »

To say there is nothing special about IF or that it is no different than calorie restriction is not at face value correct. From what I have read generally speaking there are different ways of doing IF. There is a shortened feeding time window which may mean missing a meal or fitting three meals into a narrow window. Kind of like when a typical eating pattern was three squares with no snacks in between. Then there is IF that moves all feeding into one meal or a 24 hour fast. Lastly there is longer fasts that can go from one to several days. All of these will have some effect on insulin levels and longer fasts can also help reset your insulin level for those who are insulin resistant. It also does not seem to cause a drop metabolizm that caloric restriction does over time. Some of this is hypothesis so there may much to learn about IF. It is another WOE that can be explored if one desires. IF to may offer benefits beyond what I have mentioned here and has seen some success in treating obesity patients.

IF itself does not directly promote and body composition or physiological changes. its due to a caloric deficit where people see "results" from IF....not IF. you can gain or lose weight practicing it. its a preference / scheduled way of eating.

We get it... You don't like IF.

We also get that IF is just a tool, one of many tools, a person might choose to use/follow to help manage their intake.

We also also get that the degree to which they are able to manage their intake over time determines success.

Can we move on now?

I never said I don’t like IF....how do you know I don’t skip breakfast...? YOU may move on if you’d like....I’ll comment as I wish being that it’s a forum open to opinion where you have no control over what I want to and what I don’t want to write on.....thanks for making that a question and not a statement😊👌🏻

lemurcat2

rsclause wrote: »

To say there is nothing special about IF or that it is no different than calorie restriction is not at face value correct. From what I have read generally speaking there are different ways of doing IF. There is a shortened feeding time window which may mean missing a meal or fitting three meals into a narrow window. Kind of like when a typical eating pattern was three squares with no snacks in between. Then there is IF that moves all feeding into one meal or a 24 hour fast. Lastly there is longer fasts that can go from one to several days. All of these will have some effect on insulin levels and longer fasts can also help reset your insulin level for those who are insulin resistant. It also does not seem to cause a drop metabolizm that caloric restriction does over time. Some of this is hypothesis so there may much to learn about IF. It is another WOE that can be explored if one desires. IF to may offer benefits beyond what I have mentioned here and has seen some success in treating obesity patients.

Unfortunately part of this is pay-windowed, but the author has a bunch of stuff on IF and has followed all the studies, I recommend:

http://caloriesproper.com/intermittent-fasting-is-homeopathy-level-nothingsauce/

(He believes that there may be something to resetting the circadian clock, so morning focused calories can be helpful (I'm skeptical), but that the idea that a small feeding window is better for you (unless it causes you to restrict calories) is totally unsupported and can be actually problematic.)

Read or not, whatever.

rsclause

If you assume the only purpose of IF is to regulate weight then that is all you will ever see.

lemurcat2

rsclause wrote: »

If you assume the only purpose of IF is to regulate weight then that is all you will ever see.

Is that to me? That's not at all the limit of what the blogger I linked to (who has "a Ph.D. in Nutritional Biochemistry and Physiology with a focus on obesity, insulin resistance, and circadian biology" and who discusses specific studies and explains why he thinks what he does) is talking about. He's written quite a bit about the various studies and his views.

I don't agree with everything he says -- one reason I read him and linked him is that he challenges my views on some things, like nutrition timing and keto -- but I think he's got interesting and worthwhile things to say. And the claim that IF in and of itself is better for health or does this major things is not supported.