Help! Optavia - concerned for my health.

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  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    brettakuss wrote: »
    I appreciate the comments guys! These are my bought as well. The points that keep me from immediately ditching immediately is this:

    - the amount I’ve lost so far (I mean, let’s be honest, fast weight loss feels great right?
    - The $400 I have invested into this month.

    If I were to ditch it, does anyone have any resources I could use to find a replacement?

    I’d love some kind of support coach, does MFP have that?

    I don't want to pee in your Cheerios, not you're asking for advice and using it to make an important decision. To that end, you should be aware that when people begin a new diet, it's often accompanied by about 5 pounds of water weight that the body lets go of. This isn't the kind of weight that matters for health or vanity reasons.
  • skyblueusa
    skyblueusa Posts: 10 Member
    There is a great deal of misinformation on here
    I am on the Optavia 5/1 plan. I only order it every 8 weeks because right at 8 weeks is when you lose your premier discount, and it's more sustainable financially and practically as some days I just don't get 5 fuellings in.

    Each fuelling is $3, so on the 5/1 plan you're eating $15 a day of fuellings.. Sorry but a Mcdonalds meal in both Australia AND the USA is $15 now!!
    So you will pay $15 for a meal at Maccas but you don't want to spend $15 a day on high nutrient shakes and bars?

    Each "fuelling" bar/shake/mash potato etc is 100/110cals.. I don't have one in front of e but I think they're 15g protein, 15g carbs each wtih a good portion of calcium and fiber and other nutrients.

    The plan is strict in that there is no fruit, no carby vegs..
    BUT it isn't meant to be a lifelong thing, it's meant to be a TOOL.

    Go look at the nutritional panel of a weight watchers bar or snack, and there are like 4g protein and barely any nutrients.. just garbage..

    Optavia has good vitamins/nutrients. That's the main reason my husband was ok with me giving it a go.
    Johns Hopkins approves it too.

    Most of America is living on packaged foods with zero nutrients and nobody telling them to eat a lean green meal and nobody bats an eye, but the minute somebody is using high nutrient packaged foods to lose weight all of a sudden everyone comes out of the woodwork to say its bad..


    LETS BREAK DOWN THE CALORIES
    1) 5 fuellings = 500-550 calories
    2) "There are 321 calories in 7 ounces of boneless, cooked, skinless Chicken Breast (Skin Not Eaten)."
    But there are 470 calories in 7 ounches of boneless GRILLED chicken... I will use the lower number for the arguement
    so with your fuellings and meat you're up to 871 calories.. but that's not counting your veggies in your lean green meal.

    1200-871 = 329 calories left for your veggies and condiments

    I typically eat an entire bag of cauliflower and broccoli in the air fryer, and I usually can't finish it so I'm finishing it later like it's broken into 2 meals
    There is a myth that broccoli and cauli and spinach are calorie free, but they are not. a bag of broccoli and cauli flower is 100 calories
    that has me up to 971, and then I'll usually have 1/4 cup of nuts which on average is around 180 calories which brings me to 1151... that's only 49 short of what MFP recommends for me, but of course there are condiments so I'm usually eating easily a 50 calorie portion of olive oil that I utilize to cook m food as I use the air fryer

    That's 1200 calories

    Let's look at the nutrients on that

    5 fuellings Calories Fat Carb fiber sugar prot calcium vit d iron vita vite thiamin niacin
    x 5 of these 110 1.5 15 4 8 11 211mg 10mcg 5mg 180mcg 3mg 0.2mg 3mg

    7oz chicken 387 15.32 0 58.64 28.mcg 2.1mg 56mcg
    Chicken has potassium of 482mg

    1/4 cup almonds 201 calories, 18.1 fat, 7 carbs, 7.6g protein

    12oz Broccoli nutrtion 116 Calories, 1.26g fat, 22.59 carbs, 9.59g protein,

    1 Teaspoon olive oil as one of my 3 allowable condiments

    40 calories 4.5g fat,

    TOTAL CALORIES 1294 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    and that's with ONE condiment when I'm allowed 3...
    if I halved the volume of nuts I'd be spot on 1200

    Total Calories 1294
    Total Fat 46.68 grams... - you wanna watch this as the female body only burns 39-41g fat a day
    Total Carbs 104.59
    Total Protein 130.83



    Calories 1294
    Carbs 104.59
    Protein 130.83
    Fat 46.68

    Macro Total = 282 grams..
    making 2.82 = 1%

    Protein 46%
    Carbs 37%
    Fat 17%



    People sign up for nutrtion plans and then they hve no idea how to folllow them properly and smack talk them and it's really annoying.


    I'm sorry you don't like the food, I find the bars and shakes amazing. I love the Strawberry shake it tastes like Mcdonalds strawberry shake.. I don't think there has been a fuelling I didn't like.


    WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE PLAN
    the nutrients are really good, although I prefer higher carb and lower fat,


    ABOUT ME, I'm 5'10 and I've successfully lost weight in the past on high carb low fat 1200 calorie counting, and I've lost RAPID weight on 1500 calorie high carb 2 week vegan cleanse plans
    however both of those require me to be in the kitchen a lot with a lot of food prep
    I gained a lot of weight during both my back to back pregnancies and was too sick to work out and the week i gave birth to baby 2 I was 244 including baby weight.. 3 months postpartum I began busting my bum at the gym 8 hours a week, and got down to 211 and got stuck. I was counting calories but I was just stuck and it was incredibly discouraging.
    One of the mums in my MOPS group was an optavia coach and I liked that it took the brain work and kitchen time out of everything because with a 1 and 3 year old I just don't have time to be in the kitchen..
    I either eat a bag of raw shredded cabbage as my lean green, or I stick the broc/cauli in the air fryer and air fry the chicken and come back and it's done..

    I use a RHENPHO scale and my gym has the TONITA body composition measuring scale, so NO I am not simply losing water..
    Also when people have a LOT of fat to lose, they do lose weight more rapidly..
    This week I opted to do a 30 hour fast, and in that time my body fat percentage dropped 1%

    Having said this, I don't do Optavia 30 days of the month, as I already said I only order every 8 weeks, and I usually order the main Premier box which has 22 boxes of fuellings
    22 x 7 per box = 154 fuellings / 5 per day = a 30.8 day supply, plus I order 2-3 extra boxes of my favirites
    therefore I aim to go 3-5 days as strict as I can on Optavia, then I have a couple of high carb days where I eat 400-600 grams of potatos for lunch and toast and eggs for breakfast for 1-2 days, then back on Optavia for another 3-5 days

    The Hot Chocolate is the greatest hot chocolate I've had in my life and I use a tall metal insulated thermos to make it, and when I'm down to the bottom 3rd of the drink I refill with boiling water and the yummy powder is potent enough to get me 2 hot chocolates out of 1

    WHAT I DO NOT LIKE ABOUT THE PLAN
    Only 9 fuellings are whey based, and everything else is soy based
    soy messes with estrogen so I like to limit soy








    Here is a pic of one of the nutritional panels
    https://www.optavia.com/webmedia/images/h8e/hbe/31227724398622.jpg

    Here's the nutrition on the chicken https://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/generic/chicken-breast-ns-as-to-skin-eaten?portionid=4833&portionamount=7.000


    Here is the 5/1 info
    https://www.optavia.com/us/en/plans/weight-loss-5-1
    there are also optional EEA's you can utlize which I do not.

    They don't reccomend high activity on this plan due to the deficit, but I do 3 hours of very high intensity cardio a week, and 3 20 minute sessions in the gym sauna
  • Mrsrobinsoncl
    Mrsrobinsoncl Posts: 128 Member
    kcmcbee wrote: »
    Yeah! Well “they” have scammed me out of 46 lbs in 81 days! I couldn’t be happier about it. I’m going to let them “scam” me out of 20 lbs more!

    Not a healthy pace to lose weight! In the long run you are at a much higher risk for health problems with fast weight loss.
    What is your plan long term?
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,646 Member
    edited August 6
    Your impassioned reply is to a five year old Zombie thread.

    If it works for you, awesome.

    I lost my (substantial) weight simply counting calories, and paying attention to macros, and, of course, exercising. . Simply changing my diet led to better nutrition and I’ve honed it further since then.

    But I have a question for you, and apologies in advance if I’ve misunderstood or jumped the gun.

    You mention a number of “successful” weight losses, which implies that you’ve lost and gained it back. That’s a common thread with people who’ve done fast losses.

    I’d challenge you- if this is indeed the case- to review what’s worked for you and what hasn’t, and change it up, so your loss becomes something you can continue.

    For me, I took it slow, eating non -subscription, easily available foods, avoiding fast loss annd trends, and taught myself new habits. I’ve maintained for four years, and feel confident I can easily continue in the future.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    Mrsrobinsoncl wrote: »
    kcmcbee wrote: »
    Yeah! Well “they” have scammed me out of 46 lbs in 81 days! I couldn’t be happier about it. I’m going to let them “scam” me out of 20 lbs more!

    Not a healthy pace to lose weight! In the long run you are at a much higher risk for health problems with fast weight loss.
    What is your plan long term?

    Doubting this person who posted five years ago is going to answer.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,646 Member
    edited August 6
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    Mrsrobinsoncl wrote: »
    kcmcbee wrote: »
    Yeah! Well “they” have scammed me out of 46 lbs in 81 days! I couldn’t be happier about it. I’m going to let them “scam” me out of 20 lbs more!

    Not a healthy pace to lose weight! In the long run you are at a much higher risk for health problems with fast weight loss.
    What is your plan long term?

    Doubting this person who posted five years ago is going to answer.

    I’m thinking she’s ultimately replying to the member who resurrected the thread. 🧟‍♂️

    I am impressed there’s actually emoticons for zombies. Who the dadblamed heck woulda guessed.

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