given up bread?

linalovekitty

Have you ever given up bread? If so what was your resulting weight loss experience?

My dietician was telling me yesterday that all bread is much more fattening than whole grains like oatmeal, brown rice, quinoa.
I asked why, given that bread is pretty low cal (50cals/slice on average) organic whole unrefined grain/wheat breads with lots of fiber and protein surely is healthy in moderation esp compared to white enriched bread?
Well, she told me that all bread is fattening bc automatically gets stored as fat. She said any time you have flour you have this fat storing hormonal response, no matter what kind of bread it is and that it is far worse for fat loss than foods like oatmeal and brown rice.
Her advice is to only eat grains that are in their WHOLE form. IE brown rice, black rice, quinoa, steal cut oatmeal. And to give up anything that contains flour.

thoughts?

scottaworley

My thoughts: Get a new dietician.

linalovekitty

My thoughts: Get a new dietician.

elaborate?

nomeejerome

Thoughts?
That you are not seeing a real dietician.

scottaworley

My thoughts: Get a new dietician.

elaborate?

Any dietician should know that nothing gets stored "automatically" as fat. Excess calories get stored as fat - period. If you are eating at a deficit you are not storing fat.

linalovekitty

Thoughts?
That you are not seeing a real dietician.

she is a registered dietician w a Bachelor of Science in Food Science

linalovekitty

My thoughts: Get a new dietician.

elaborate?

Any dietician should know that nothing gets stored "automatically" as fat. Excess calories get stored as fat - period. If you are eating at a deficit you are not storing fat.

she says while calories are important, there are hormonal responses that occur with certain foods that will affect your body fat storage system and that bread is the #1 enemy right up there w booze

nomeejerome

Thoughts?
That you are not seeing a real dietician.

she is a registered dietician w a Bachelor of Science in Food Science

Interesting.

Bread does not get stored as fat and you do not need to cut flour out of your intake or anything else, unless you have a medical reason.

scottaworley

My thoughts: Get a new dietician.

elaborate?

Any dietician should know that nothing gets stored "automatically" as fat. Excess calories get stored as fat - period. If you are eating at a deficit you are not storing fat.

she says while calories are important, there are hormonal responses that occur with certain foods that will affect your body fat storage system and that bread is the #1 enemy right up there w booze

I might agree with that if you're eating at a surplus. I haven't seen the research, but I could imagine some kind of hormonal changes having an affect on how you use excess calories (fat vs muscle). When you are eating at a deficit, however, you are not either storing fat or creating muscle.

MoreBean13

Your dietitian is misinformed.

Basically everything they said is bullchit. I would find someone new.

scottaworley

Further, any dietician who advises you to give something up completely should basically not be a dietician. (Maybe excepting trans fats.)

Quisqueyana2013

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

fatfudgery

Further, any dietician who advises you to give something up completely should basically not be a dietician. (Maybe excepting trans fats.)

But... but... gluten, or something!

taso42

Pretty weird thing for a dietitian to say. Are you sure he or she is legit?

scottaworley

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

If your dietician is encouraging you to lose 8 pounds in a week you should find a new dietician.
I should say that if you have a gluten allergy or some other allergy (no need to wonder here - you will know) you should give up that thing.

linalovekitty

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

interesting you say that bc my dietician specializes in diabetic clients. the only grain she eats is oatmeal. she thinks bread is basically poison.

scottaworley

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

interesting you say that bc my dietician specializes in diabetic clients. the only grain she eats is oatmeal. she thinks bread is basically poison.

It sounds to me like she has a chip on her shoulder and IMO has no place advising clients that aren't diabetic.

taso42

a guy i work with addresses me as "Doctor". and i address him also as "Doctor". but neither of us are actually doctors. perhaps your "dietitian" is playing a similar game with you.

fatfudgery

I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

I am [...] diabetic

Well, I, for one, am stumped. :indifferent:

linalovekitty

a guy i work with addresses me as "Doctor". and i address him also as "Doctor". but neither of us are actually doctors. perhaps your "dietitian" is playing a similar game with you.

she does have Bachelor of Science in Food Science, which is why i see her and not "nutritionist" who has nothing

scottaworley

a guy i work with addresses me as "Doctor". and i address him also as "Doctor". but neither of us are actually doctors. perhaps your "dietitian" is playing a similar game with you.

she does have Bachelor of Science in Food Science, which is why i see her and not "nutritionist" who has nothing

I'm just saying, I've met a LOT of people with bachelors degrees who know little about their field of study - especially years down the line.

MoreBean13

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

interesting you say that bc my dietician specializes in diabetic clients. the only grain she eats is oatmeal. she thinks bread is basically poison.

If you don't have diabetes, you don't need a diabetes diet.
If you don't have celiac disease (or other wheat problem) you don't need an anti-wheat diet.
If you're not sensitive to salt or have high blood pressure, you don't need to limit sodium.
If you don't have a specific medical reason, you don't need to limit dietary cholesterol.
Nobody needs a dietitian that gets their info from the book "wheat belly" rather than nutrition textbooks and research.

I hate professionals that treat people for diseases they don't have.

scottaworley

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

interesting you say that bc my dietician specializes in diabetic clients. the only grain she eats is oatmeal. she thinks bread is basically poison.

If you don't have diabetes, you don't need a diabetes diet.
If you don't have celiac disease (or other wheat problem) you don't need an anti-wheat diet.
If you're not sensitive to salt or have high blood pressure, you don't need to limit sodium.
If you don't have a specific medical reason, you don't need to limit dietary cholesterol.
Nobody needs a dietitian that gets their info from the book "wheat belly" rather than nutrition textbooks and research.

I hate professionals that treat people for diseases they don't have.

Strong 6,238th post.

MoreBean13

I heard that before from a dietitian and from my endocrinologist. There are many schools of thought. I've given up bread and lost 8 lbs in one week. So I would say--it depends on the person. I am pretty much a wheat addict and diabetic so your dietitian's view does not sound like bunk to me. Give it up if you wish and see how you feel and if you lose. Like I said before--there are many theories and the human body is complex so you will never know unless you try to give it up. I know people who have lost weight eating bread--no problem. Good for them. It doesn't seem to work for me.

interesting you say that bc my dietician specializes in diabetic clients. the only grain she eats is oatmeal. she thinks bread is basically poison.

If you don't have diabetes, you don't need a diabetes diet.
If you don't have celiac disease (or other wheat problem) you don't need an anti-wheat diet.
If you're not sensitive to salt or have high blood pressure, you don't need to limit sodium.
If you don't have a specific medical reason, you don't need to limit dietary cholesterol.
Nobody needs a dietitian that gets their info from the book "wheat belly" rather than nutrition textbooks and research.

I hate professionals that treat people for diseases they don't have.

Strong 6,238th post.

Thanks I've been practicing for 6,238. It's special.

cicisiam

Find a recipe online for a good healthy whole grain clean bread, and make it yourself , or find a great bakery or store that carries it.. Everything in moderation as always, but yes white flour products are of no value whatsoever.

JustAnotherGirlSuzanne

Bread isn't bad for you, and unless you have Celiac disease or an intolerance there's really no reason to quit.

I've heard that white bread (and booze) are refined and so are quickly turned into sugar in your body and used up quickly. Which is why you can eat a slice of bread and be hungry within the hour unless you had put something like jam on it. When you eat a slice of whole grain bread it takes your body longer to digest it so you stay "full" for longer.

If you give up bread you'll probably lose weight quite simply because you're no longer eating donuts, cookies, cake, bread, cereals, and whatnot. Personally I think losing weight by cutting out bread has more to do with cutting out additional sugar than with the flour in it.

My $0.02.

(I have a gluten intolerance)

scottaworley

Find a recipe online for a good healthy whole grain clean bread, and make it yourself , or find a great bakery or store that carries it.. Everything in moderation as always, but yes white flour products are of no value whatsoever.

White bread - 1 slice - 79 calories, 1g fat (.5 polyunsaturated .2 monounsaturated), .8g fiber, 2.8g protein, 7% calcium, 2% magnesium, 6% iron...
Not the best specs I've seen, but definitely not of no value.

meadow_sage

Have you ever given up bread? If so what was your resulting weight loss experience?

My dietician was telling me yesterday that all bread is much more fattening than whole grains like oatmeal, brown rice, quinoa.
I asked why, given that bread is pretty low cal (50cals/slice on average) organic whole unrefined grain/wheat breads with lots of fiber and protein surely is healthy in moderation esp compared to white enriched bread?
Well, she told me that all bread is fattening bc automatically gets stored as fat. She said any time you have flour you have this fat storing hormonal response, no matter what kind of bread it is and that it is far worse for fat loss than foods like oatmeal and brown rice.
Her advice is to only eat grains that are in their WHOLE form. IE brown rice, black rice, quinoa, steal cut oatmeal. And to give up anything that contains flour.

thoughts?

Her advice is good, but her reasoning is not. It is better to whole grains. But all breads are not created equal. White bread and other highly refined breads are void in dietary fiber and nutrients. Also, they are easily turned into sugar in your system and don't take much to break them down. The more dietary fiber in your grains, the harder it is for your body to break it down and THAT benefits you in many ways. Do some research....if you post on here you are going to get many different perspectives, which is good to a point but becoming informed and making decisions based on what you feel is right for you is best.

Quisqueyana2013

No one encouraged me to lose 8lbs in one week. It just happened when I gave up bread. I've always been a walker but tend to overdo bread items. Like another poster said--you give up bread, you are also giving up pizza, cookies, donuts, etc.

Please note that as I stated earlier, I am diabetic. There must be some hormonal response to wheat which explains the weight loss.

Just remember that weight loss is not one-size-fits-all. Giving up bread won't kill you so if you're curious, give it a try and see how you feel.

scottaworley

No one encouraged me to lose 8lbs in one week. It just happened when I gave up bread and started walking.

It happened because you ate 21000 calories less than you should have in a week. Under the guidance of a dietician this should not have happened.

Quisqueyana2013

I have no idea where you got that number. Either way, I edited my post to explain further. I have a pretty good idea of what happened to my body.