Cuttings Carbs
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Pizza is often as high or higher in fat than carbs, but that's just me being frustrated at how the term carbs has been abused (as part of carbs being demonized).
I understand the issue, having trouble with portion control for certain foods (you can still eat those foods but need help diversifying and with portion control). I prefer vegetarian pizza and so find it often is too high in fat and carbs compared to my usual meals. What I do is plan ahead if I want pizza and eat more protein (and a bit lower fat and carbs) at other meals that day, and perhaps save more calories too, if I think I will eat more. Then I also make sure to have a salad or something with the pizza and not to go overboard (although I will often just have a lot of veg on the pizza too).
Potatoes can actually be reasonably low cal if you don't add fat (or fry them), and many find them satisfying. But again people vary in what they have portion control issues with. What I did with potatoes is just limit myself to 100 g or so and eat them with a variety of other food. Eating a variety of vegetables allows you to fill up the plate and not notice the lower volume of foods that you tend to overeat.
Basically the same principle with bread.
I think focusing on "how will I get protein in this meal" as a starting point and filling up a significant portion of the plate with vegetables then allows for the favorite starches to be included too.9 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »When you say "carbs" what do you mean?
Do you mean vegetables, fruit, beans, tubers, whole grains? Or do you mean things like pasta and pizza?
In your other thread, you mention that you're taking second helping of the "carbs" since you're not eating meat and that you don't like salads. It doesn't sound like your diet is very well-rounded.
Vegetarians (I am one) still need protein, especially if we're trying to lose weight and we're active. There are other ways of having vegetables besides having salad. I have to be in the mood to have salad because it bores me since I'm sort of limited in the amount of raw veggies I can eat (IBS issue). But roasted vegetables? I love them and can't get enough.
I'm saying this to ask if you've tried other methods of preparing veggies? Have you explored vegetarian sources of protein like beans, tofu, tempeh, plain Greek yogurt, eggs, seitan, and some of the meat substitutes on the market?
As a vegetarian, you can't escape having carbs, but you should maximize the amount of nutrition they pack. Top your potato with a can of chili beans and have a side of roasted broccoli. Toss a serving or two of bean pasta with roasted tomatoes and mushrooms. Have oatmeal and berries with some Greek yogurt.
Eat these sorts of things in proper portions to meet your calorie goals, and you'll lose weight.
When I say carbs, sadly I am referring to pizza, bread, potatoes, all the BAD carbs. You are right, I do need a more well rounded diet. I am not vegan, so I do eat eggs regularly as well as tofu etc.
A healthy weight for me is 118-120 and somehow since stopping nursing after doing it for six year (two kids at years each- try not to judge), I've gained about 20 pounds over the last two years. I am only 5'4. Sadly I think I am eating like I am still nursing (two years later!) so slowly those extra 200-400 calories are turning into pounds. Hoping using this app helps! I haven't logged in until recently.
There's nothing wrong with any of those foods at all, unless that's all you're eating or you're eating too much of them.
It's all about context and dosage. If your meal is too much pizza, then pizza is bad for your goals. If your meal is a piece or two of pizza (depends on the type and size of the slices), topped with veggies and maybe a side salad? That's a great meal.
Same with bread. Nothing wrong with it. Unless you're sitting there just eating bread and butter all day. Now make that bread toast, have some eggs and some fruit on the side in portions that fit within your calorie goal? Great meal.
Potatoes! GURL. Potatoes are full of nutrients! One of our (my daughter and I are the family vegetarians) favorite lazy meals is a baked potato topped with cottage cheese and some veggies on the side. My daughter likes either a salad or crudite, I'll usually nuke some broccoli or asparagus for myself.
Again, none of these foods are bad, it's about balancing them with protein and fat and controlling the amount of them you eat so that you are eating the correct amount of calories.9 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »When you say "carbs" what do you mean?
Do you mean vegetables, fruit, beans, tubers, whole grains? Or do you mean things like pasta and pizza?
In your other thread, you mention that you're taking second helping of the "carbs" since you're not eating meat and that you don't like salads. It doesn't sound like your diet is very well-rounded.
Vegetarians (I am one) still need protein, especially if we're trying to lose weight and we're active. There are other ways of having vegetables besides having salad. I have to be in the mood to have salad because it bores me since I'm sort of limited in the amount of raw veggies I can eat (IBS issue). But roasted vegetables? I love them and can't get enough.
I'm saying this to ask if you've tried other methods of preparing veggies? Have you explored vegetarian sources of protein like beans, tofu, tempeh, plain Greek yogurt, eggs, seitan, and some of the meat substitutes on the market?
As a vegetarian, you can't escape having carbs, but you should maximize the amount of nutrition they pack. Top your potato with a can of chili beans and have a side of roasted broccoli. Toss a serving or two of bean pasta with roasted tomatoes and mushrooms. Have oatmeal and berries with some Greek yogurt.
Eat these sorts of things in proper portions to meet your calorie goals, and you'll lose weight.
When I say carbs, sadly I am referring to pizza, bread, potatoes, all the BAD carbs.
Now I feel bad... I had pizza, bread, and potatoes today.
Still had a deficit of 420 calories though. My pizza had beans on it (it was taco pizza)... is that even worse? 6 -
When I say carbs, sadly I am referring to pizza, bread, potatoes, all the BAD carbs.
No such thing as a "bad carb". Carbs are one of 3 macronutrients that make up our food. Whether a particular food is good or not so good for an individual depends on their overall diet and their nutritional goals.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »When you say "carbs" what do you mean?
Do you mean vegetables, fruit, beans, tubers, whole grains? Or do you mean things like pasta and pizza?
In your other thread, you mention that you're taking second helping of the "carbs" since you're not eating meat and that you don't like salads. It doesn't sound like your diet is very well-rounded.
Vegetarians (I am one) still need protein, especially if we're trying to lose weight and we're active. There are other ways of having vegetables besides having salad. I have to be in the mood to have salad because it bores me since I'm sort of limited in the amount of raw veggies I can eat (IBS issue). But roasted vegetables? I love them and can't get enough.
I'm saying this to ask if you've tried other methods of preparing veggies? Have you explored vegetarian sources of protein like beans, tofu, tempeh, plain Greek yogurt, eggs, seitan, and some of the meat substitutes on the market?
As a vegetarian, you can't escape having carbs, but you should maximize the amount of nutrition they pack. Top your potato with a can of chili beans and have a side of roasted broccoli. Toss a serving or two of bean pasta with roasted tomatoes and mushrooms. Have oatmeal and berries with some Greek yogurt.
Eat these sorts of things in proper portions to meet your calorie goals, and you'll lose weight.
When I say carbs, sadly I am referring to pizza, bread, potatoes, all the BAD carbs. You are right, I do need a more well rounded diet. I am not vegan, so I do eat eggs regularly as well as tofu etc.
A healthy weight for me is 118-120 and somehow since stopping nursing after doing it for six year (two kids at years each- try not to judge), I've gained about 20 pounds over the last two years. I am only 5'4. Sadly I think I am eating like I am still nursing (two years later!) so slowly those extra 200-400 calories are turning into pounds. Hoping using this app helps! I haven't logged in until recently.
There is nothing bad about those foods, you just need to eat them in portions that meet your calorie goals.
I had pizza last weekend, I'm having potatoes for lunch today, I'm planning to have bread with lunch tomorrow. It's all about meeting your calorie goals overall.4 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »When you say "carbs" what do you mean?
Do you mean vegetables, fruit, beans, tubers, whole grains? Or do you mean things like pasta and pizza?
In your other thread, you mention that you're taking second helping of the "carbs" since you're not eating meat and that you don't like salads. It doesn't sound like your diet is very well-rounded.
Vegetarians (I am one) still need protein, especially if we're trying to lose weight and we're active. There are other ways of having vegetables besides having salad. I have to be in the mood to have salad because it bores me since I'm sort of limited in the amount of raw veggies I can eat (IBS issue). But roasted vegetables? I love them and can't get enough.
I'm saying this to ask if you've tried other methods of preparing veggies? Have you explored vegetarian sources of protein like beans, tofu, tempeh, plain Greek yogurt, eggs, seitan, and some of the meat substitutes on the market?
As a vegetarian, you can't escape having carbs, but you should maximize the amount of nutrition they pack. Top your potato with a can of chili beans and have a side of roasted broccoli. Toss a serving or two of bean pasta with roasted tomatoes and mushrooms. Have oatmeal and berries with some Greek yogurt.
Eat these sorts of things in proper portions to meet your calorie goals, and you'll lose weight.
When I say carbs, sadly I am referring to pizza, bread, potatoes, all the BAD carbs. You are right, I do need a more well rounded diet. I am not vegan, so I do eat eggs regularly as well as tofu etc.
A healthy weight for me is 118-120 and somehow since stopping nursing after doing it for six year (two kids at years each- try not to judge), I've gained about 20 pounds over the last two years. I am only 5'4. Sadly I think I am eating like I am still nursing (two years later!) so slowly those extra 200-400 calories are turning into pounds. Hoping using this app helps! I haven't logged in until recently.
Pizza has as many if not more calories coming from fat than carbs. My wife and I order a pizza pretty much once every couple of weeks...our favorite is this crazy veggie from our local pizzeria...it's literally piled with veggies. The hard thing with pizza though is that it's really easy to overeat because it's pretty friggin tasty which I think has more to do with the fat content than the dough.
There's nothing inherently unhealthy about bread...I love a good sour dough with my soup.
And there's absolutely nothing unhealthy about potatoes...have you ever looked up the nutritional profile of potatoes...it's pretty much a power house. It's a great source of various vitamins and minerals including being an awesome source of potassium and vitamin C...it's also a good source of fiber if you're eating it with skin on and a pretty decent source of vegetarian protein.5 -
FYI, the OP posted a comment on a different thread that would indicate she has come around to a more balanced view of carbs. All of the comments (including mine) are probably overkill at this point 4
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*runs in* No foods are bad unless they make you sick or you're allergic to them or someone has put actual poison in them instead of words that a person can't pronounce. *runs out*GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »When you say "carbs" what do you mean?
Do you mean vegetables, fruit, beans, tubers, whole grains? Or do you mean things like pasta and pizza?
In your other thread, you mention that you're taking second helping of the "carbs" since you're not eating meat and that you don't like salads. It doesn't sound like your diet is very well-rounded.
Vegetarians (I am one) still need protein, especially if we're trying to lose weight and we're active. There are other ways of having vegetables besides having salad. I have to be in the mood to have salad because it bores me since I'm sort of limited in the amount of raw veggies I can eat (IBS issue). But roasted vegetables? I love them and can't get enough.
I'm saying this to ask if you've tried other methods of preparing veggies? Have you explored vegetarian sources of protein like beans, tofu, tempeh, plain Greek yogurt, eggs, seitan, and some of the meat substitutes on the market?
As a vegetarian, you can't escape having carbs, but you should maximize the amount of nutrition they pack. Top your potato with a can of chili beans and have a side of roasted broccoli. Toss a serving or two of bean pasta with roasted tomatoes and mushrooms. Have oatmeal and berries with some Greek yogurt.
Eat these sorts of things in proper portions to meet your calorie goals, and you'll lose weight.
When I say carbs, sadly I am referring to pizza, bread, potatoes, all the BAD carbs. You are right, I do need a more well rounded diet. I am not vegan, so I do eat eggs regularly as well as tofu etc.
A healthy weight for me is 118-120 and somehow since stopping nursing after doing it for six year (two kids at years each- try not to judge), I've gained about 20 pounds over the last two years. I am only 5'4. Sadly I think I am eating like I am still nursing (two years later!) so slowly those extra 200-400 calories are turning into pounds. Hoping using this app helps! I haven't logged in until recently.
I agree. It is all about the context of a total diet and the amount you eat of some items. If one can't moderate some items, then they are "bad" for you.
Pizza is calorie dense but with pretty good macros. Bread? Depends on the bread and its nutrient density. We get a bread from a local bakery that is a fermented multigrain artisan bread that is fabulous and nutrient dense. I never understand why people demonize potatoes! They have very good micronutrient content as well as potassium.
I just don't get the "BAD" carb thing. Look at calorie density and total diet and eat how you like. If you don't control calories accurately, it doesn't matter what you eat. You won't lose weight.1
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