Is my goal weight too little?

RAinWA

lucerorojo wrote: »

middlehaitch wrote: »

collectingblues wrote: »

And meanwhile, I look at both of Ann’a pictures as absolute goals.

Ann, you are amazing.

Yup, I think Annpt77 looks healthy, and at a healthy weight. Gotta say, I love your shoulders and arms.

Not criticizing luceroroho, we all have our own ideals and goals, but I’ve always been able to see my collarbone, I’d think I’d look strange if I couldn’t.

Cheers, h.

I don't think that seeing the collarbone looks emaciated, but the RIBS, to me yes. I also could see my collarbone for most of my life, but ribs above the breasts, no, not even at my thinnest (103 lbs. as a woman).

I think Ann looks great and she's always inspiring. I want to be just like her when I grow up!

But I think her ribs above the breast may look more prominent because she has had a double mastectomy.

lucerorojo

RAinWA wrote: »

lucerorojo wrote: »

middlehaitch wrote: »

collectingblues wrote: »

And meanwhile, I look at both of Ann’a pictures as absolute goals.

Ann, you are amazing.

Yup, I think Annpt77 looks healthy, and at a healthy weight. Gotta say, I love your shoulders and arms.

Not criticizing luceroroho, we all have our own ideals and goals, but I’ve always been able to see my collarbone, I’d think I’d look strange if I couldn’t.

Cheers, h.

I don't think that seeing the collarbone looks emaciated, but the RIBS, to me yes. I also could see my collarbone for most of my life, but ribs above the breasts, no, not even at my thinnest (103 lbs. as a woman).

I think Ann looks great and she's always inspiring. I want to be just like her when I grow up!

But I think her ribs above the breast may look more prominent because she has had a double mastectomy.

Yes, that makes sense. I was thinking that too. I apologize if it sounded offensive.

middlehaitch

lucerorojo wrote: »

middlehaitch wrote: »

collectingblues wrote: »

And meanwhile, I look at both of Ann’a pictures as absolute goals.

Ann, you are amazing.

Yup, I think Annpt77 looks healthy, and at a healthy weight. Gotta say, I love your shoulders and arms.

Not criticizing luceroroho, we all have our own ideals and goals, but I’ve always been able to see my collarbone, I’d think I’d look strange if I couldn’t.

Cheers, h.

I don't think that seeing the collarbone looks emaciated, but the RIBS, to me yes. I also could see my collarbone for most of my life, but ribs above the breasts, no, not even at my thinnest (103 lbs. as a woman).

That, ribs above the breasts, is all down to how and where one carries fat, and a bit of bone structure, and for a woman, sometimes, whether one is pre or post menopausal.

I am the middle of 3 sisters, only a year apart and similar weights (98-105lbs) In our premenopausal days I was the only one that didn’t have my upper ribs showing, nice little fat padding, the other 2 had since pre puberty.

Post menopause, my fat storage, because of hormone changes, has changed, now, at the same weight, my upper ribs are visible.
I liked it better when they weren’t visible, but I’m not willing to put on extra fat because of it.

It just isn’t something that can be controlled. A lot of women that are more pear shaped, I’m apple, lose on the upper body much sooner than the lower and their upper ribs can be visible even when overweight.

Said while respecting your view and personal body ideal.

Cheers, h.
Sorry. While typing other posts happened so this may be a bit out of context.

AnnPT77

lucerorojo wrote: »

RAinWA wrote: »

lucerorojo wrote: »

middlehaitch wrote: »

collectingblues wrote: »

And meanwhile, I look at both of Ann’a pictures as absolute goals.

Ann, you are amazing.

Yup, I think Annpt77 looks healthy, and at a healthy weight. Gotta say, I love your shoulders and arms.

Not criticizing luceroroho, we all have our own ideals and goals, but I’ve always been able to see my collarbone, I’d think I’d look strange if I couldn’t.

Cheers, h.

I don't think that seeing the collarbone looks emaciated, but the RIBS, to me yes. I also could see my collarbone for most of my life, but ribs above the breasts, no, not even at my thinnest (103 lbs. as a woman).

I think Ann looks great and she's always inspiring. I want to be just like her when I grow up!

But I think her ribs above the breast may look more prominent because she has had a double mastectomy.

Yes, that makes sense. I was thinking that too. I apologize if it sounded offensive.

We're not in contention here. No worries. I'm not at all personally offended. :drinker:

My point was not that I look perfect or beautiful or ideal: That's not even on my radar. My point was that I don't look like I'm sickly . . . as far as I know. I know I am healthy . . . and that's not imaginary. My fat-weight is carried lower body, not upper. You can see a tiny bit of lower-waist bulge in the 2nd photo still. <shrug> (I do look like I should get on with some pec work, for muscle-development balance if not appearance: Lazy and hedonistic soul that I am, I'm all row and no bench-press.)

My concern here is that - to me - seeing a large number of "I can't imagine . . . I would be sick-looking at that weight" on a thread like this troubles me, in the abstract, when we have no idea at all about the OP or her goals. No photos, no nothing. She could be narrowly-built and able to lose a bit more, while genuinely healthy; she could be seriously out of touch with how thin she actually is already and risking undernourishment.

We just don't know. I don't see how we can judge.

I wouldn't dream of implying that someone must be fat or flabby at my height and (pulling a number out of the air) 145, even though I personally would be (was). Those are two unrelated concepts. When multiple people on a thread imply that an unseen OP must be striving for an unhealthy weight, while still aiming inside the normal BMI range, it makes me uncomfortable (and not particularly on my own behalf, BTW - I know I'm healthy). I feel like collectively we come across as more judgemental about unseen women at low-normal BMIs (implying that they're unhealthy or out of touch with reality) than about women with high-normal BMIs. One can point at the influence of the culture pushing too-thin ideals as a source of this worry . . . but it would be equally possible to point at the influence of the culture accepting too-fat norms. When we don't see the person, we don't know: It's that individual.

But I think I've derailed the thread, and we have no indication OP has been back, so I'll drop the issue at this point.

Cheers, all!