Bad advice in dealing with New Year's resolutioners
spartan_d
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This is the time of year at which gym aficionados complain about the early January crowd. It's also the time of year at which people respond, "Instead of complaining, we should make friends with the resolutioners! That way, they'll be motivated to stay. And if they're using the equipment wrong or violating some rule of gym etiquette, gently correct them. That way, gym veterans will be less annoyed with them and they'll feel more at home."
This kind of advice is well intentioned, but for several reasons, I don't recommend it.
First, I do believe in being friendly to newcomers. Maybe nod their way or give them a smile. Heck, start a conversation with them if it occurs naturally. Going out of your way to make friends and engage them in conversation, though? Not a good idea. Treating the gym as a social club is considered bad etiquette, and it can distract people from their actual workouts. Let conversations occur naturally. Deliberately making them happen is a good way to encourage bad behavior.
Besides, when resolutioners give up on exercise, it generally isn't because they failed to make friends. Rather, it's because they never had much resolve in the first place. Maybe a few of them would change their minds, but the odds are strongly against it.
Moreover, when I go to the gym, I am there to get things done. At the risk of sounding harsh, I'm not there to slow my workouts down and serve as the welcome wagon. And people who are there to focus on exercise probably wouldn't appreciate the extended pleasantries anyway.
Also, unless someone is about to hurt himself or herself, trying to correct them generally doesn't go over well. This holds true for both exercise and for gym etiquette. It's better to let things slide and deal with the inconvenience.
So yes, by all means, be civil toward them. Say hello or smile their way if this wouldn't seem creepy. Don't go out of your way to befriend them though, and don't expect other gym goers to interrupt their routines to befriend them either. That doesn't really help in the long run.
This kind of advice is well intentioned, but for several reasons, I don't recommend it.
First, I do believe in being friendly to newcomers. Maybe nod their way or give them a smile. Heck, start a conversation with them if it occurs naturally. Going out of your way to make friends and engage them in conversation, though? Not a good idea. Treating the gym as a social club is considered bad etiquette, and it can distract people from their actual workouts. Let conversations occur naturally. Deliberately making them happen is a good way to encourage bad behavior.
Besides, when resolutioners give up on exercise, it generally isn't because they failed to make friends. Rather, it's because they never had much resolve in the first place. Maybe a few of them would change their minds, but the odds are strongly against it.
Moreover, when I go to the gym, I am there to get things done. At the risk of sounding harsh, I'm not there to slow my workouts down and serve as the welcome wagon. And people who are there to focus on exercise probably wouldn't appreciate the extended pleasantries anyway.
Also, unless someone is about to hurt himself or herself, trying to correct them generally doesn't go over well. This holds true for both exercise and for gym etiquette. It's better to let things slide and deal with the inconvenience.
So yes, by all means, be civil toward them. Say hello or smile their way if this wouldn't seem creepy. Don't go out of your way to befriend them though, and don't expect other gym goers to interrupt their routines to befriend them either. That doesn't really help in the long run.
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If I were a newbie at the gym I would not want to be looked at like some kind of invalid or alien as the post is making them sound. If i have questions about equipment i would ask, if i want to talk to someone i would. i would not expect for someone to smile at me or make conversation. I would want to be just another gym member like anyone else who's there getting healthy. I wouldn't expect the veterans to go out of their way for me.30
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I agree with some of what you say, but as we've covered ad neusaum on this topic (already this year and in previous years) there is no one-size-fits all on this topic.
All gyms are different. People are different. Basic rules of etiquette apply but there are rule variants depending on the type of gym, location, region, etc. Personally, I've learned a lot about different gyms from reading these types of threads but it really boils down to common sense from everyone, whether new at the gym or not. Find out the rules and practice them. Be considerate of others.
If you see violations or possible really bad form that can result in injury approach the gym staff. Although, some gyms don't have staff, as someone on another thread mentioned so that "advice" doesn't apply, either, does it?4 -
I wonder if people aren't setting themselves up for failure by joining the gym at this time. They probably get discouraged with the crowds & long wait times just like everyone else does. Even some long-time users avoid the gym for a while at this time. Too bad they can't make their resolution in April.16
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I am not a gym newbie at ALL but a man who thought I was walked over to me and gave me some unsolicited advice: "You don't need to lift such heavy weights. It's not like you're a professional bodybuilder." It left an impression on me!! He said it like he was trying to be helpful but I found it very condescending...and I am someone who is very confident in the gym! I can't even imagine how I'd feel if it actually had been my first time in the gym on top of that.
I say stay in your lane. I'd never ignore someone who reached out to me for help, but I also would never offer unsolicited correction on form, how to lose weight, etc.33 -
I try not to make "friends" at the gym no matter what, I don't need to be obligated for hellos and how are yous when I just want to be in my head and do my workout.18
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I wonder if people aren't setting themselves up for failure by joining the gym at this time. They probably get discouraged with the crowds & long wait times just like everyone else does. Even some long-time users avoid the gym for a while at this time. Too bad they can't make their resolution in April.
I was a "resolutioner" back in 2013. I was doing cardio and bodyweight stuff a few months prior to the new year, but not in the gym. One of my goals in 2013 was to get back in the gym. The gym was nothing new to me, but I hadn't been in a number of years. I deliberately postponed getting my membership until February. It was still busy, but not as busy as January and I figured it would die off even further going into March...figured I could deal for a month.
One of the first commercial gyms I joined in my 20s I did so in January...and yeah, it was pretty discouraging with the crowds and just kind of unpleasant to be there. Crowds in general make me feel claustrophobic so it wasn't something I looked forward to at all and didn't last long.
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As a serial gym-goer (I go hard for 2-3 months and then ghost for 2-3) I always appreciate a friendly smile when I return. No judgement, no need to be best friends, but just the general feeling of being welcome makes it so much easier to jump back in.
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I've been going to the same gym for the past 2 years. The same people at the same times are there. They are polite and everyone keeps to their own. I've never felt intimidated, but I've also been to just about every other gym within a 10 mile radius from my home and all of the others I have quit within the first 2 months, but it was because of me. Some times it was the distance, inconvenient times, lack of classes, the "meat market" feeling I had when I walked in, or sheer intimidation from the regular "fit" people. I have only been at what I now call my "home gym" because it is not intimidating and no one bothers me. We are all there to do a job, get it done and go home. I have said hi to people and I'm always polite, but I'm not there to socialize. Not to say that I wouldn't, but its not my intent. So OP I'm agreeing with you. I wouldn't go up to a new person, but I would smile and say hi in passing. I wouldn't offer help unless medically necessary or someone said "HELP".2
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I wonder if people aren't setting themselves up for failure by joining the gym at this time. They probably get discouraged with the crowds & long wait times just like everyone else does. Even some long-time users avoid the gym for a while at this time. Too bad they can't make their resolution in April.
Crowds in general make me feel claustrophobic so it wasn't something I looked forward to at all and didn't last long.
Same here. I don't need to go to a gym because we have equipment at home, but if I had to deal with a crowd to exercise, it just wouldn't happen.0 -
Agreed. I don't go to the gym. When I did have a membership for a short time and was a "newb", I didn't want anyone talking to me. I was there to work out. If I didn't know how to work a machine, I'd ask for help from an employee before using it. I liked to keep conversations short & sweet if they happened naturally. A smile and nod is acceptable. I'd rather be ignored than approached!! Nothing new to see here, just go about your day please, thanks!3
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Running_and_Coffee wrote: »I am not a gym newbie at ALL but a man who thought I was walked over to me and gave me some unsolicited advice: "You don't need to lift such heavy weights. It's not like you're a professional bodybuilder." It left an impression on me!! He said it like he was trying to be helpful but I found it very condescending...and I am someone who is very confident in the gym! I can't even imagine how I'd feel if it actually had been my first time in the gym on top of that.
I say stay in your lane. I'd never ignore someone who reached out to me for help, but I also would never offer unsolicited correction on form, how to lose weight, etc.
GRRRR, ARRRRGH!!!!4 -
This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.17 -
This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.
I don't know. I would be glad to carry on a conversation with someone (there is a lady at my gym who does more talking than exercising) and I'm glad to have a conversation with her. The problem for me is I typically have a limited amount of time so to have a conversation also takes away from my purpose at the gym.8 -
We dont get new people at my gym (super small town). but lots of old yappy people who do far more talking than anything resembling a workout.
they have learned, I will chat for about the first 20 minutes. then, headphones on and let me do my thing.
works for all of us. well, its all the chatting they are getting from me, so i dont know if it works for THEM or not, but I also dont care. They are used to it, I'll leave it at that lolol7 -
This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.
I don't know. I would be glad to carry on a conversation with someone (there is a lady at my gym who does more talking than exercising) and I'm glad to have a conversation with her. The problem for me is I typically have a limited amount of time so to have a conversation also takes away from my purpose at the gym.
I do this as well, but this is the exception to the rule. I use 4 gyms and note a common factor with the majority of those in great shape - they communicate. Just like any other muscle it needs to be flexed to grow.
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callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »We dont get new people at my gym (super small town). but lots of old yappy people who do far more talking than anything resembling a workout.
they have learned, I will chat for about the first 20 minutes. then, headphones on and let me do my thing.
works for all of us. well, its all the chatting they are getting from me, so i dont know if it works for THEM or not, but I also dont care. They are used to it, I'll leave it at that lolol
20 minutes? Wow you are generous.
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I've talked to 2 people (besides the worker) at the gym. One lives 4 houses down from me. One asked me about my earbuds.
I'm happy that way.7 -
This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.
I’m happy to communicate and socialize when I’m not trying to get work done, which is what I’m doing when I’m “working” out at the gym. A lot of the people at my gym are retirees and don’t have to budget their time as carefully as I try to.9 -
This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.
I'm always chatting with people between sets provided they are also in between sets. I don't go to a big commercial gym anymore though...small private gym with at most 4 to maybe 5 people working out at any one time with the trainers.1 -
I don't talk to gym ppl. I deal with this inconvenience each year with and internal rage. Someone curls in the squat rack or uses equipment I need and I am on a 1 hour schedule. I don't wish to speak with anyone at my gym 365 days a year. I am not going to instruct any one or correct bad behavior, I am going to mind my business, drink my water and wait them out. I'm going to run my back up routines while they deadlift 135 in the power rack. I will rage on the inside but I know this too shall pass and soon I'll never see them again and I can go back to my regularly scheduled program.
but internally I am raging.24 -
sarahlifts wrote: »I don't talk to gym ppl. I deal with this inconvenience each year with and internal rage. Someone curls in the squat rack or uses equipment I need and I am on a 1 hour schedule. I don't wish to speak with anyone at my gym 365 days a year. I am not going to instruct any one or correct bad behavior, I am going to mind my business, drink my water and wait them out. I'm going to run my back up routines while they deadlift 135 in the power rack. I will rage on the inside but I know this too shall pass and soon I'll never see them again and I can go back to my regularly scheduled program.
but internally I am raging.
What's the issue with the bolded?9 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »We dont get new people at my gym (super small town). but lots of old yappy people who do far more talking than anything resembling a workout.
they have learned, I will chat for about the first 20 minutes. then, headphones on and let me do my thing.
works for all of us. well, its all the chatting they are getting from me, so i dont know if it works for THEM or not, but I also dont care. They are used to it, I'll leave it at that lolol
20 minutes? Wow you are generous.
it was a year of a battle of trying NOT to talk. broke down. i will give them that, a warm up period more or less, then im done with the talking LOL2 -
This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.
I see people communicating and socializing constantly, everywhere from work to church to stores to parks and so on and so forth. Not wanting to socialize during one part of your day doesn't mean you are incommunicative and antisocial.
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sarahlifts wrote: »I don't talk to gym ppl. I deal with this inconvenience each year with and internal rage. Someone curls in the squat rack or uses equipment I need and I am on a 1 hour schedule. I don't wish to speak with anyone at my gym 365 days a year. I am not going to instruct any one or correct bad behavior, I am going to mind my business, drink my water and wait them out. I'm going to run my back up routines while they deadlift 135 in the power rack. I will rage on the inside but I know this too shall pass and soon I'll never see them again and I can go back to my regularly scheduled program.
but internally I am raging.
This is pretty much why I don't go in the weight room without my trainer.5 -
Time of day plays a big part in avoiding the new year's crowd. I agree, stay in your lane...help someone out if he/she asks or endangers him/herself. Not a whole lot of N00Bs committed to going to the gym @ 1-3am (24 hour gym), but I find it rather refreshing to see a few new faces in the gym (motivating to someone who has been lifting ~20 years). If someone asks you about an exercise, just simply explain why you do so/rationale; takes like 5 seconds2
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This reminds me of the condo building I live in. Some residents are always complaining..and usually about things inherent to lateral living. Noise, neighbors, blah blah. I always think.."why not move out and buy a house where you have all the privacy you want and you run the show?"
Same with the gym.. a home gym is a great solution for someone who actually thinks they own the communal gym each person pays to belong. No matter if they're a January perennial or not.. they have the same rights you do.11 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »sarahlifts wrote: »I don't talk to gym ppl. I deal with this inconvenience each year with and internal rage. Someone curls in the squat rack or uses equipment I need and I am on a 1 hour schedule. I don't wish to speak with anyone at my gym 365 days a year. I am not going to instruct any one or correct bad behavior, I am going to mind my business, drink my water and wait them out. I'm going to run my back up routines while they deadlift 135 in the power rack. I will rage on the inside but I know this too shall pass and soon I'll never see them again and I can go back to my regularly scheduled program.
but internally I am raging.
What's the issue with the bolded?
A power rack isn’t typically the place for deads... rack pulls maybe but it’s usually considered bad etiquette - like curling in the squat rack. However, I don’t know if her gym has dedicated spots for DL’s.5 -
I wonder if people aren't setting themselves up for failure by joining the gym at this time. They probably get discouraged with the crowds & long wait times just like everyone else does. Even some long-time users avoid the gym for a while at this time. Too bad they can't make their resolution in April.
IMO, they most likely are and not because of crowded gyms. Why wait until a certain day of the year to "resolve" to exercise or anything else to improve yourself?
People need a strong "why" to change exercise and diet habits, the "why" doesn't magically appear on January 1st. This unfortunately is why the vast majority of New Year's resolutions fail.8 -
jseams1234 wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »sarahlifts wrote: »I don't talk to gym ppl. I deal with this inconvenience each year with and internal rage. Someone curls in the squat rack or uses equipment I need and I am on a 1 hour schedule. I don't wish to speak with anyone at my gym 365 days a year. I am not going to instruct any one or correct bad behavior, I am going to mind my business, drink my water and wait them out. I'm going to run my back up routines while they deadlift 135 in the power rack. I will rage on the inside but I know this too shall pass and soon I'll never see them again and I can go back to my regularly scheduled program.
but internally I am raging.
What's the issue with the bolded?
A power rack isn’t typically the place for deads... rack pulls maybe but it’s usually considered bad etiquette - like curling in the squat rack. However, I don’t know if her gym has dedicated spots for DL’s.
And that's the thing. IMO a courteous gym member uses the equipment to it's highest purpose. You don't need a power rack to to curls or deadlifts so don't use it (you just need floorspace). Now if there is only one bar available to do deadlifts and its in the squat rack IMO fair game.2 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »I wonder if people aren't setting themselves up for failure by joining the gym at this time. They probably get discouraged with the crowds & long wait times just like everyone else does. Even some long-time users avoid the gym for a while at this time. Too bad they can't make their resolution in April.
IMO, they most likely are and not because of crowded gyms. Why wait until a certain day of the year to "resolve" to exercise or anything else to improve yourself?
People need a strong "why" to change exercise and diet habits, the "why" doesn't magically appear on January 1st. This unfortunately is why the vast majority of New Year's resolutions fail.
Bingo. New Year resolutions are stupid.
But my own take on the gym - I went for 4 years and just stopped because I ended up spending most of my time on the treadmill, and it was just cheaper and more convenient to just buy one and exercise at home (I have dumbbells too, but let's be honest... I just hate lifting).
I never saw more crowds in January. And from the moment I started to the moment I stopped, I just didn't want anyone to talk to me. I don't like crowds, I HATED having to wait for a machine, and it really bothered me when I was trying to watch a show or listen to my music and people were talking next to me. The gym isn't a social club, and if you want to do something with other people, join a class.
Anyway, I see absolutely no reason why anyone would get a different treatment... newbie or not. I see no point in making a thread like this, I don't think that any newbie would appreciate being put on a spot... I certainly wouldn't have.This is a truthful, but sad commentary on our social state.
We have lost our ability and desire to communicate and socialize.
I know a lot of people who do just fine. I hate small talk and I'd rather be left alone. Either way, the gym is not a social club.5
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