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Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.0 -
if it fits your calorie goals do what you like.
i dont do the coffee shop coffees, but do, every single day, input my coffee and (more importantly) creamer FIRST. without it.... i am not a nice person. that, for me, is a priority and I 'budget' for it. other than that, i refuse to drink my calories.1 -
Honestly thank you so much for explaining while losing weight a lot of people want the fastest results which may not last due to the excessive dieting this is why i like the positive attitude you guys have in my fitness pal !
Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
So i can even have unhealthy foods as long it fits my calorie budget ?Where you spend your calories and how much you spend is completely up to you. No one can tell you if it is a good option or not because they are not you. It is a matter of personal preference and calorie budgeting.
Most definitely. Be careful with the term "unhealthy" though because most foods have nutrients that we need to eat.
Calories do not differ from one food to the next.
The trick is sustainability. If you eat high caloric food that doesn't fill you up enough you may struggle. What you need is to figure out your personal balance between foods you find filling and treat foods.
Thank youu so much for explaining !!! I am pretty new to this and a lot of people say different stuff but your explanation seems legit and logical
It is very common to think that there is "diet" food. I thought that myself for a long time and it caused many weight loss attempts to fail for me.
There are many helpful threads pinned to the top of this forum. They can help dispel other diet myths as well as help you understand how to log your food correctly and scale weight fluctuations that can cause many people problems as they once did me.
I think the idea is that there are many foods that are fairly calorie dense. These are generally what we think of as "unhealthy" foods. Therefore by swapping these calorie dense foods (or foods that have more calories than you think) for lighter alternatives, you're reducing the amount of calories you're consuming as a whole.
I think many people find it easier to stick for a set of rules in hope for a quick fix. Most people want results yesterday and are happy to be miserable, eating food they don't like, and essentially starving themselves because they think that it's only going to be for the short term and once they're their goal weight they can eat all those foods that they've been depriving themselves of (which of course is how they gained all that weight in the first place, so obviously they're just going to gain all that weight back).
Another reason why people say eating "bad" foods can derail the process is because we have a habit of getting an emotional attachment to food, especially when we label them good and bad. We eat a "bad" food, and then they've ruined that day, so they might as well eat more "bad" food because it doesn't matter and we'll start again tomorrow. And then you binge and you feel terrible the next day, and because you feel terrible you eat "badly" and then you think "screw this week, it's ruined now. I'll start again on Monday" And then you binge for the rest of the week, feel terrible and feeling like a failure. And that doesn't really help anyone does it.
So the reason lots of people here advocate the: there are no bad food, enjoy what you want in moderation. Is because it removes this emotional attachment. So you ate an enormous slice of cake which was 500 calories that you hadn't planned for, so what? Yes you've gone over your target, but accepting it lets you limit any damage that might come from spiraling. And you've probably only pushed the date of reaching your goal weight back by, what, one day? Honestly, if it was a damn good cake I think that only one day is a pretty good trade off (which is why my weight loss has been slower than I initially planned)
Something else to consider is the fact that the diet industry relies on the fact that people lose and regain weight. Therefore, it is keen to promote quick fixes that rarely advocate changes for life. That's also the reason MFP veterans are keen to avoid using the term "diet". Because it implies that at some point you're going to stop eating this way, and what happens then? You go back to how you ate before? If I cannot foresee ever giving something up forever, then I won't be giving it up to lose weight (although I might limit it). So by pushing this ideal of fit, thin people who only eat salads and fruit, it gives an unreachable aspiration that people will only ever fail trying to achieve. When people fail they are more likely to try out the latest new trend that the industry is pushing. With some ignoring their normal levels of skepticism in their desperation and believe whatever woo they've heard in the hope that it'll be the magic bullet they've been looking for.
Consider the WW model. Within my living memory (I'm 27) they've changed the points system twice, both times running adverts under the general vain of "if you didn't lose weight with the previous system, you might be able to with this new system". The systems are essentially the same, so all those people who will go back thinking that it'll be different this time, will probably find themselves disappointed to learn that it's basically the same as last time. But by that point they've paid the membership fee and bought the WW branded foods and spent their money on something that again hasn't worked for them. At the end of the day essentially WW is (and has always been) calorie counting. But by covering it up by using their system, it means that you don't learn the actual calorific value of foods on their own. Which means that if you regain, you need to start using their system to lose weight, because it's been the only thing that has worked for you. Of course, I'm not bashing WW as a weigh loss method. If it has worked for you, then good for you! However, this is the sad truth about the industry and that it relies on failure.
Back on the subject of coffee. I'll drink a latte with a spoonful of brown sugar and I think it's made with semi-skimmed milk (as that's pretty much the default setting here in the UK). I mostly drink tea, so if I actually have a coffee I'm going to have one which I enjoy. Besides, I could do with the protein.
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It always seemed crazy to me to cut out something almost completely off because almost everything edible has some sort of health benefit ect ect , thank you once again for clearing everything up !! ❤️Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.
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Another question , what do you guys do when it comes to your daily extra excercise and activity calories ? Do you guys eat it back , ignore it or eat some of it back ?
It always seemed crazy to me to cut out something almost completely off because almost everything edible has some sort of health benefit ect ect , thank you once again for clearing everything up !! ❤️Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.
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Another question , what do you guys do when it comes to your daily extra excercise and activity calories ? Do you guys eat it back , ignore it or eat some of it back ?
It always seemed crazy to me to cut out something almost completely off because almost everything edible has some sort of health benefit ect ect , thank you once again for clearing everything up !! ❤️Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.
Most will tell you to eat about 1/2 your exercise calories back because the estimates from the machines and watches can vary wildly. I have found that the numbers in the MFP database for exercise are also usually too high, so I never eat more than 1/2 my exercise calories.
Start with 1/2 and if you are losing too fast, you can add in some more of the exercise calories. If you are gaining or simply staying in the same place for more than a month, then you can dial back on how many of the calories you eat back.
Also, don't be surprised if you start a new workout routine (or some new exercise) and you stall for awhile or even gain a little bit - it is most likely water weight and not fat. The body always holds a little extra water for recovery/repair purposes after exercise.5 -
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Another question , what do you guys do when it comes to your daily extra excercise and activity calories ? Do you guys eat it back , ignore it or eat some of it back ?
It always seemed crazy to me to cut out something almost completely off because almost everything edible has some sort of health benefit ect ect , thank you once again for clearing everything up !! ❤️Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.
Most will tell you to eat about 1/2 your exercise calories back because the estimates from the machines and watches can vary wildly. I have found that the numbers in the MFP database for exercise are also usually too high, so I never eat more than 1/2 my exercise calories.
Start with 1/2 and if you are losing too fast, you can add in some more of the exercise calories. If you are gaining or simply staying in the same place for more than a month, then you can dial back on how many of the calories you eat back.
Also, don't be surprised if you start a new workout routine (or some new exercise) and you stall for awhile or even gain a little bit - it is most likely water weight and not fat. The body always holds a little extra water for recovery/repair purposes after exercise.
Yeah, I keep the other half to compensate for inaccuracies in logging (food or exercise) and there's potential. Example: I have timed my walking pace using mapmywalk.com by putting in my route and how long it took me, and it says I do about 3.5mph. But sometimes it takes me a few minutes longer. It could be traffic lights (I march in place at them). At this time of year, the sidewalks aren't always clear and whether the unevenness of the terrain balances out the slightly slower pace I take to make sure I don't step in a slush puddle or on an icy patch—depending on the temperature, or whether walking back home with 8-10lbs of groceries is slower than the trip out but the added weight balances it? I don' really do those calculations.
My local bakery and deli takeout counter aren't in the MFP database. I buy fairly generic items, but the calories in the recipe that Krogers/Aldi's etc uses in their challah or pickled beets may or may not be identical. I know it's probably close, but close enough?
(Note: if it's TOM and my satiety levels take a dive, I may eat up to 75% back; occasionally more.)2 -
For me, I don't taste the difference between sugar and sucralose in tea or coffee, so I never spend the calories on sugar. I do normally add 2% milk though. The fat will help it be a bit more filling if eating nothing else for breakfast; and if I'm only having some oats for breakfast, the small amount of fat & protein in the milk (added to oats and tea) is welcome (as fat would otherwise be missing from that meal).1
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Another question , what do you guys do when it comes to your daily extra excercise and activity calories ? Do you guys eat it back , ignore it or eat some of it back ?
It always seemed crazy to me to cut out something almost completely off because almost everything edible has some sort of health benefit ect ect , thank you once again for clearing everything up !! ❤️Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.
Certain activities are much harder to characterize calorie burn for. People often over-estimate [1] their effort/intensity level (vigorous/moderate/etc) and [2] how much time they are actually doing the activity as stated (such as counting rest periods or lower intensity recovery periods) - leading to vastly over-estimated calorie burn estimates. This is the main reason people log only a fraction of the calories. Calorie burn estimates for walking and running, based on the number of miles, on the other hand, are generally pretty accurate.1 -
Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
So i can even have unhealthy foods as long it fits my calorie budget ?Where you spend your calories and how much you spend is completely up to you. No one can tell you if it is a good option or not because they are not you. It is a matter of personal preference and calorie budgeting.
Most definitely. Be careful with the term "unhealthy" though because most foods have nutrients that we need to eat.
Calories do not differ from one food to the next.
The trick is sustainability. If you eat high caloric food that doesn't fill you up enough you may struggle. What you need is to figure out your personal balance between foods you find filling and treat foods.
Thank youu so much for explaining !!! I am pretty new to this and a lot of people say different stuff but your explanation seems legit and logical
It is very common to think that there is "diet" food. I thought that myself for a long time and it caused many weight loss attempts to fail for me.
There are many helpful threads pinned to the top of this forum. They can help dispel other diet myths as well as help you understand how to log your food correctly and scale weight fluctuations that can cause many people problems as they once did me.
My guess:
OJ: People usually don't realize just how many calories they are consuming from beverages when they don't log/pay attention, and calories that you drink usually aren't filling - so they wind up being on top of what you eat rather than replacing them. Cutting out all the sugar in juice is just a fairly simple way to cut down on what might add up to a surprising number of calories.
Rice: Fairly calorie dense with a small-ish serving size... People (Americans, at least) are really, really, really bad at portioning this out. (hint: if you are using something larger than a custard cup to hold the rice, there's a good chance you're looking at a pretty ridiculous number of calories). Rice is 1 thing I tend not to eat often - a single serving is pretty sad and depressing IMHO.
Bread: Often in addition to the main items of the meal. sometimes mindlessly (over)eaten as an appetizer. or to hold other main ingredients - a purpose not necessarily worth the calories (or where people are adding a lot of calories without really realizing just how many).
Pretty much, those are fairly simple ways to cut out a lot of calories, particularly for people who don't weigh and log food. Most people don't do that and the amount of calories from these sources would probably surprise them immensely if they did.1 -
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I usally find them at Marshalls/TJ Maxx/burlington for $3.99
my favs
salted caramel
pumpkin cheesecake
caramel pecan
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I swore when I started out that, although I gave up sugar almost immediately, I would never give up cream in my coffee. At the time, coffee was more a vehicle for me to drink cream than it was about the actual coffee. However, within six months or so, it became apparent to me that I'd rather eat 100cal than drink 100cal when my calorie budget is so limited. A nice lady I work with treated me to some of her good coffee often enough that I quit getting it from McD's, Tim Horton's, Charbuck's or any other of those awful places that churn out awful coffee and started buying from a local roastery instead. That, along with some other dietary discoveries, mainly going to LCHF because it's fat in general I crave more than cream in my coffee specifically, set me on the path to true coffee appreciation. I now consider anything but black absolute heresy.
It may be worthwhile to find yourself a nice local roastery and try out some coffee made with love and care. You might be surprised how delicious black coffee can really be if it's not burned to crisp during the roasting or sitting around for months afterwards to go stale before it hits your cup. I had no idea how unique each cup of coffee could be depending on where it was grown, how it is processed, what flavour notes are cultivated etc. The difference between good coffee and bad is easily as complex as the difference between good wine and boxed plonk. Adding things to your boxed plonk doesn't turn it into a good wine; adding cream, sugar and flavours to your bad coffee doesn't turn it into good coffee either. Just a thought from a coffee snob
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Another question , what do you guys do when it comes to your daily extra excercise and activity calories ? Do you guys eat it back , ignore it or eat some of it back ?
It always seemed crazy to me to cut out something almost completely off because almost everything edible has some sort of health benefit ect ect , thank you once again for clearing everything up !! ❤️Most of the confusion comes from people who tell you to avoid a lot of foods while losing weight mostly carbs are told to be avoided , to only eat veggies , and fruits and salads that’s what society always showed you should be eating if you are trying to be fit. Mean while in my fitness pal people are pretty supportive of eating what ever as long as it fits your calorie deficit which confuses me because a lot of people all over youtube and online are making it seem like having foods that are unhealthier within your calorie deficit can sabotage your weight loss. I once had a doctor who even told me to avoid orange juice or bread or rice i don’t get why we are told to do that ?
For one thing you can't really trust your doctor with weight loss methodology. Most of them are not trained for it. I want mine to monitor my progress and do regular check-ups while I lose but if I listened to him for what to eat I would fail because veganism is not sustainable for me. For variety I usually have one meatless day a week but that is as far as I go.
I think the main thing that amplifies food and diet myths is the lack of understanding about scale fluctuations. If you eat home prepared "diet" food instead of the same number of calories at a fast food restaurant you will likely get less sodium. So the fast food could easily cause a little water retention which will make the scale jump for a short time and the "diet" food could help it go down. Long term the results will be the same but that is a harder sell when people are just starting out and dying for scale results.
i eat back almost all of them (my fitbit seems pretty accurate but that seems to be on a person by person basis as for many its not)1 -
My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.2 -
So you would say over all ban the yummy unhealthy foods even if they fit your calorie deficit ? I mean for me i like to do a 80 / 20 like 80 percent of my daily food is healthy , and that other 20 percent somedays i use to eat like maybe a lil bag of chips or a lil brownie you know but some people make it seem like even with a donut you could pack weight if you are still eating within your calorie deficit.justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
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So you would say over all ban the yummy unhealthy foods even if they fit your calorie deficit ? I mean for me i like to do a 80 / 20 like 80 percent of my daily food is healthy , and that other 20 percent somedays i use to eat like maybe a lil bag of chips or a lil brownie you know but some people make it seem like even with a donut you could pack weight if you are still eating within your calorie deficit.justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
Individual foods don't make you gain weight or lose weight outside of their calorie hit. Food choices might make it easier or harder to stick to your calorie goal. Personally, banning all treat foods from my diet sounds like a great way to burn out and end up gaining back everything. Allowing myself treats along the way, without guilt, was the only way that would work for me. Even health-wise, it's the overall composition of your diet, not one food here and one food there, that will affect your health. Eating a serving of ice cream after dinner doesn't somehow cancel out all the nutrients you ate throughout the day.
And not for nothing, but an occasional treat makes me happy, and emotional and mental health are important too :drinker:3 -
justinejacksonm wrote: »people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
There's nothing inherently wrong with having lattes or ice cream or pizza, it's all about eating them in the context of a diet that is giving you the right amount of calories for your desired weight.
Losing weight *is* about calories in versus calories out, that's specifically why things that are really delicious don't have to be on the "banlist." Enjoying something doesn't change the calorie count, so there's no reason to feel obligated to avoid the foods you enjoy while losing weight
If you want a latte, have a latte. Just account for the calories.3 -
justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
You might have a ban list but that doesn't mean what is right for you is right for others. If all calories are the same then it is a personal decision how they should be spent. I have been losing now for 11 months and I have lost quite a bit of weight eating food that is probably on your no-no list. The ONLY consequence is the occasional and temporary water weight gain which can also happen eating what you probably consider "healthy" food. Otherwise my weight loss always shows up on the scale eventually and it matches my RoL goals.
Losing weight improves health or at least lowers health risks so there is NO good reason to make it more difficult than it absolutely needs to be. Besides, once you meet your nutritional needs you don't get extra credit for eating more nutrient rich food.
There are a number of things on my "doesn't seem worth it anymore" list but if I craved any of them I would at least try to eat it again.
There are some common sense things like it would be unwise to burn all of your calories for a day on a giant milkshake but it is still very possible to make some milkshake fit in a day or a week. I almost always bank my calories to afford the more expensive treats or meals.
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Like yesterday i ate lesser portions and healthy for both my breakfast and dinner but during lunch time i was outside at a resturant and instead of a salad i ordered a burger which fit right into my calorie deficit is that one burger gonna do any harm if i watched calories and portion so sort it out ? On days i know i will eat out and splurge a little i make sure to control my other meals more so i have those calorie space for my food.
So you would say over all ban the yummy unhealthy foods even if they fit your calorie deficit ? I mean for me i like to do a 80 / 20 like 80 percent of my daily food is healthy , and that other 20 percent somedays i use to eat like maybe a lil bag of chips or a lil brownie you know but some people make it seem like even with a donut you could pack weight if you are still eating within your calorie deficit.justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
Individual foods don't make you gain weight or lose weight outside of their calorie hit. Food choices might make it easier or harder to stick to your calorie goal. Personally, banning all treat foods from my diet sounds like a great way to burn out and end up gaining back everything. Allowing myself treats along the way, without guilt, was the only way that would work for me. Even health-wise, it's the overall composition of your diet, not one food here and one food there, that will affect your health. Eating a serving of ice cream after dinner doesn't somehow cancel out all the nutrients you ate throughout the day.
And not for nothing, but an occasional treat makes me happy, and emotional and mental health are important too :drinker:
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Like yesterday i ate lesser portions and healthy for both my breakfast and dinner but during lunch time i was outside at a resturant and instead of a salad i ordered a burger which fit right into my calorie deficit is that one burger gonna do any harm if i watched calories and portion so sort it out ? On days i know i will eat out and splurge a little i make sure to control my other meals more so i have those calorie space for my food.
So you would say over all ban the yummy unhealthy foods even if they fit your calorie deficit ? I mean for me i like to do a 80 / 20 like 80 percent of my daily food is healthy , and that other 20 percent somedays i use to eat like maybe a lil bag of chips or a lil brownie you know but some people make it seem like even with a donut you could pack weight if you are still eating within your calorie deficit.justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
Individual foods don't make you gain weight or lose weight outside of their calorie hit. Food choices might make it easier or harder to stick to your calorie goal. Personally, banning all treat foods from my diet sounds like a great way to burn out and end up gaining back everything. Allowing myself treats along the way, without guilt, was the only way that would work for me. Even health-wise, it's the overall composition of your diet, not one food here and one food there, that will affect your health. Eating a serving of ice cream after dinner doesn't somehow cancel out all the nutrients you ate throughout the day.
And not for nothing, but an occasional treat makes me happy, and emotional and mental health are important too :drinker:
What kind of harm do you think it would do you?
If it fits into your calorie goal, it isn't going to harm your weight loss efforts. That's the wonderful thing about counting calories. You can estimate how many calories are in the burger and how many are in the salad and then make your choice.3 -
Thank youu for clearing that up ❤️❤️janejellyroll wrote: »
Like yesterday i ate lesser portions and healthy for both my breakfast and dinner but during lunch time i was outside at a resturant and instead of a salad i ordered a burger which fit right into my calorie deficit is that one burger gonna do any harm if i watched calories and portion so sort it out ? On days i know i will eat out and splurge a little i make sure to control my other meals more so i have those calorie space for my food.
So you would say over all ban the yummy unhealthy foods even if they fit your calorie deficit ? I mean for me i like to do a 80 / 20 like 80 percent of my daily food is healthy , and that other 20 percent somedays i use to eat like maybe a lil bag of chips or a lil brownie you know but some people make it seem like even with a donut you could pack weight if you are still eating within your calorie deficit.justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
Individual foods don't make you gain weight or lose weight outside of their calorie hit. Food choices might make it easier or harder to stick to your calorie goal. Personally, banning all treat foods from my diet sounds like a great way to burn out and end up gaining back everything. Allowing myself treats along the way, without guilt, was the only way that would work for me. Even health-wise, it's the overall composition of your diet, not one food here and one food there, that will affect your health. Eating a serving of ice cream after dinner doesn't somehow cancel out all the nutrients you ate throughout the day.
And not for nothing, but an occasional treat makes me happy, and emotional and mental health are important too :drinker:
What kind of harm do you think it would do you?
If it fits into your calorie goal, it isn't going to harm your weight loss efforts. That's the wonderful thing about counting calories. You can estimate how many calories are in the burger and how many are in the salad and then make your choice.
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Like yesterday i ate lesser portions and healthy for both my breakfast and dinner but during lunch time i was outside at a resturant and instead of a salad i ordered a burger which fit right into my calorie deficit is that one burger gonna do any harm if i watched calories and portion so sort it out ? On days i know i will eat out and splurge a little i make sure to control my other meals more so i have those calorie space for my food.
Very smart. You can also bank calories for even bigger "splurges".
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By banking calories do you do it for the week or the day ? Because i know some people do the zigzag calories for the week where they eat less one day and make up for it the next day ect ectLike yesterday i ate lesser portions and healthy for both my breakfast and dinner but during lunch time i was outside at a resturant and instead of a salad i ordered a burger which fit right into my calorie deficit is that one burger gonna do any harm if i watched calories and portion so sort it out ? On days i know i will eat out and splurge a little i make sure to control my other meals more so i have those calorie space for my food.
Very smart. You can also bank calories for even bigger "splurges".
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By banking calories do you do it for the week or the day ? Because i know some people do the zigzag calories for the week where they eat less one day and make up for it the next day ect ectLike yesterday i ate lesser portions and healthy for both my breakfast and dinner but during lunch time i was outside at a resturant and instead of a salad i ordered a burger which fit right into my calorie deficit is that one burger gonna do any harm if i watched calories and portion so sort it out ? On days i know i will eat out and splurge a little i make sure to control my other meals more so i have those calorie space for my food.
Very smart. You can also bank calories for even bigger "splurges".
I find that I care less about what I eat Mon-Thurs so on those days I take advantage and bank my excess calories. I cash out on Sunday typically with whatever I have planned. Mentally I find it easier when I have something to look forward to as well. I have seen some people say this makes things harder for them while others do the same or similar to me.
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justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
What is bad and unhealthy about a latte? A cup of 1% milk and coffee is 100 calories and my calcium for the day plus some protein. Same with a 1/2 cup portion of ice cream - again, calcium & protein maybe 200 cals. Still managed to lose 90+ lbs enjoying them - not to mention “gasp” pizza.2 -
What is bad and unhealthy about a latte? A cup of 1% milk and coffee is 100 calories and my calcium for the day plus some protein. Same with a 1/2 cup portion of ice cream - again, calcium & protein maybe 200 cals. Still managed to lose 90+ lbs enjoying them - not to mention “gasp” pizza.
It seems that "unhealthy" or "bad" often includes any item that can be replaced by a lower calorie option regardless of nutrient value. In some cases there seems to be a moral judgment too. If you enjoy something too much like ice cream or pizza it must be bad for you. I think the latter comes from people who feel the need to punish themselves for gaining weight.3 -
justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
What is bad and unhealthy about a latte? A cup of 1% milk and coffee is 100 calories and my calcium for the day plus some protein. Same with a 1/2 cup portion of ice cream - again, calcium & protein maybe 200 cals. Still managed to lose 90+ lbs enjoying them - not to mention “gasp” pizza.
I don't think the previous poster meant to imply they were unhealthy - just that they can be calorie bombs as prepared at a coffee shop and not worth the calories to them.0 -
justinejacksonm wrote: »My apologies in advance I don't mean to be disrespectful I maybe it's just because I've been at it for a long time but I read so many posts on here regarding food options so many people are totally lost at sea it seems! It really brings to light why losing is weight such an issue in our society.
I've literally had one of those "doh" moments and slapped my forehead so many times. people post about latte and ice cream and pizza and basically how can I get away with not changing my eating habits and still eat really bad unhealthy food and still hope to lose weight.
Actually more than anything it's just surprising how much misinformation and lack of knowledge there is about nutrition out there!
Black coffee is totally fine if anything caffeine in moderation is good for you. There's nothing wrong with a little touch of half-and-half and people debate zero calorie sweeteners and if they're good for you or bad for you which ones are good versus not but if you just want to reduce calories just use a 0 cal sweetener like Splenda in it.
if you want to get a coffee at Dunkin donuts or McDonalds just get regular coffee with half-and-half and Splenda. some places have zero calorie sugar syrups probably not the best thing but if you're really jonesing for a flavored latte go with that.
It's a pain in the butt in summer but I've gone to places and ask for black coffee with Splenda and cream blended and ice so I have a Frozen coffee cuz if you just order a frozen iced coffee it's going to rock you about 500 calories with syrups and stuff.
just do your research. Look at the menus for places you go to. Losing weight is about calories in versus calories out pretty much anything that's really yummy is on the banlist but that doesn't mean you can't find alternatives or workarounds.
I have coffee every day I just enter my two cups plus my travel mug that I take to work in MyFitnessPal as one lump sum item morning coffee and Contigo.
I don't like it but you can always switch to soy or almond milk.
What is bad and unhealthy about a latte? A cup of 1% milk and coffee is 100 calories and my calcium for the day plus some protein. Same with a 1/2 cup portion of ice cream - again, calcium & protein maybe 200 cals. Still managed to lose 90+ lbs enjoying them - not to mention “gasp” pizza.
I don't think the previous poster meant to imply they were unhealthy - just that they can be calorie bombs as prepared at a coffee shop and not worth the calories to them.
Anything can be a calorie bomb, but the thing about coffee shops today is that they usually have options to choose milks and syrups that are lower calorie. So to call out a latte as problematic doesn't really make sense. Yes, you can get a latte that is high calorie. You can also easily get one that has a reasonable number of calories. It's like criticizing the categories of "salads" or "soups" just because high calorie versions exist.2
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