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French_Peasant wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »TheFitHooker wrote: »Well, I was disappointed when I came into this thread, I followed Ree before she was famous. Read her blog, get to know who she is. She lives on a farm, they are pretty active. I don't know, this was a disappointing thread.
Out of curiosity, what, specifically, was disappointing about it, and how do you envision your post raising the awesomeness level?
For example, since you have followed her for so many years, we would be interested to hear how you have been influenced by her.
Personally, I think it’s one of the more engaging threads going right now (great job OP!) but alas, it probably has a hard time standing up to the excitement of, say, the chit chat threads.
:laugh: I'm dying!!!
I made the mistake of posting on ONE chit chat thread over a year ago, when it first started, and have been paying for that grave mistake many times every day since. The horror...the horror...
This thread probably should have been in Debate.
Debate is like Chit Chat with higher standards, and fewer creepy guys who PM you "Lets chat" (or worse, with no punctuation besides) later.5 -
French_Peasant wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »TheFitHooker wrote: »Well, I was disappointed when I came into this thread, I followed Ree before she was famous. Read her blog, get to know who she is. She lives on a farm, they are pretty active. I don't know, this was a disappointing thread.
Out of curiosity, what, specifically, was disappointing about it, and how do you envision your post raising the awesomeness level?
For example, since you have followed her for so many years, we would be interested to hear how you have been influenced by her.
Personally, I think it’s one of the more engaging threads going right now (great job OP!) but alas, it probably has a hard time standing up to the excitement of, say, the chit chat threads.
:laugh: I'm dying!!!
I made the mistake of posting on ONE chit chat thread over a year ago, when it first started, and have been paying for that grave mistake many times every day since. The horror...the horror...
This thread probably should have been in Debate.
Debate is like Chit Chat with higher standards, and fewer creepy guys who PM you "Lets chat" (or worse, with no punctuation besides) later.
If you didn't want to chat you could have just said so! I won't be wasting my creepiness on you anymore.
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cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.6 -
kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
The bakers get a heads-up on upcoming challenges so they have baked some of those things 20 times in the days preceding filming. You'd be good at it, too - I have every confidence in you.
You can send your practice cake to me at C. Riverside, 1919 20th St., ThatTown, US.
My problem is more wanting to eat all the things.
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TheFitHooker wrote: »Well, I was disappointed when I came into this thread, I followed Ree before she was famous. Read her blog, get to know who she is. She lives on a farm, they are pretty active. I don't know, this was a disappointing thread.
I have to say, I'm also very curious what your expectations were for this thread?2 -
It's funny. People don't like it when buttons are clicked and they also really don't like it when people disagree with someone and then state why. If disagreeing, not being especially snarky, trying to keep things fairly surface level, and spending the time to write out a post and find some statistics is debating then I'm not sure what to say.
Disagreement on a fairly benign topic doesn't mean that either party is somehow terrible or untrustworthy.
(said post rowing)
edit for something other than typos (also post rowing): I actually really like Ann. That, however, does not mean that we're always going to agree and it definitely doesn't mean that I'm always going to understand an initial point that she was trying to make. That's normal (it's funny because I actually study "how people co-construct meaning" in spoken language) - totally normal. There are plenty of times here and elsewhere where the point I was making has gone completely over someone's head while others understood what I was talking about.11 -
cmriverside wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
The bakers get a heads-up on upcoming challenges so they have baked some of those things 20 times in the days preceding filming. You'd be good at it, too - I have every confidence in you.
You can send your practice cake to me at C. Riverside, 1919 20th St., ThatTown, US.
My problem is more wanting to eat all the things.
In 2017, before learning that my town does not allow commercial residential cooking, I was trying to get a small baking business off the ground and forced test muffins on everyone on my street, including the mail man, UPS guy, tree service guys, etc. My next door neighbor also works from home and she was my best test eater. She liked everything, but I don't know if that was a reflection on her palate or my skill
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It's funny. People don't like it when buttons are clicked and they also really don't like it when people disagree with someone and then state why. If disagreeing, not being especially snarky, trying to keep things fairly surface level, and spending the time to write out a post and find some statistics is debating then I'm not sure what to say.
Disagreement on a fairly benign topic doesn't mean that either party is somehow terrible or untrustworthy.
(said post rowing)
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quiksylver296 wrote: »I guess I am sort of alone in finding her show somewhat boring. She never seems to fix anything that I don't already know, could not figure out on my own, or have no interest in preparing.
Should I confess that although I have read this entire thread, I have no idea who she is, her blog, or her show?
Me too! On the other hand, I don't watch cooking shows because I also find them boring. Maybe because I am not interested in what they do (aka cooking).
Interesting. I don't watch them because I find them boring. In my case, it's partly because I am interested in cooking . . . so why waste time watching other people do it? (Such a slow way to learn anything new!)
<curmudgeon>
Modern life is weird to me: So much less of people doing things; so much more of people watching other people doing things. (Not much NEAT in that.
)
But high-calorie foods caused the obesity crisis, even though the high-calorie foods always existed? The fact that cable TV deregulation happened in 1972, with channels/availability burgeoning after that; commercial internet got rolling in the 1980s; and electronic gaming was coming to vast popularity over that same time: Pure coincidence.
So, now we have this Pioneer Woman person, we're reading her blog on the internet, we're watching her TV show where she cooks rich foods . . . and what makes sense to some people is to criticize her for cooking rich foods, and possibly for over-feeding her (quite healthy-looking) children?
WTFlippieDip?!?!
Modern life is weird. Get off my lawn.
</curmudgeon>
Yeah I don’t know about that, perhaps that is just your perception or a stereotype. I’m a “millennial” and I grew up going to dances with kids my age, I sewed A LOT and still do, and I’ve been playing a musical instrument my entire life. Also involved in sports. For dates my husband and I often go ice skating, roller blading, all sorts of things. But I guess I didn’t grow up watching much TV. I also love to cook and I love watching cooking shows too, I learn a lot from them.8 -
kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
Mary Berry, chief Judge on Great British Bake Off is in her 80's and has been the Guru of British baking for decades. She has always baked up a storm but is really slim. When asked why she didn't get fat [not pc I know lol] when she was cooking all these lovely things she replied, I don't eat everything but I taste everything and share. That is obviously the answer!7 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »I guess I am sort of alone in finding her show somewhat boring. She never seems to fix anything that I don't already know, could not figure out on my own, or have no interest in preparing.
Should I confess that although I have read this entire thread, I have no idea who she is, her blog, or her show?
Me too! On the other hand, I don't watch cooking shows because I also find them boring. Maybe because I am not interested in what they do (aka cooking).
Interesting. I don't watch them because I find them boring. In my case, it's partly because I am interested in cooking . . . so why waste time watching other people do it? (Such a slow way to learn anything new!)
<curmudgeon>
Modern life is weird to me: So much less of people doing things; so much more of people watching other people doing things. (Not much NEAT in that. )
But high-calorie foods caused the obesity crisis, even though the high-calorie foods always existed? The fact that cable TV deregulation happened in 1972, with channels/availability burgeoning after that; commercial internet got rolling in the 1980s; and electronic gaming was coming to vast popularity over that same time: Pure coincidence.
So, now we have this Pioneer Woman person, we're reading her blog on the internet, we're watching her TV show where she cooks rich foods . . . and what makes sense to some people is to criticize her for cooking rich foods, and possibly for over-feeding her (quite healthy-looking) children?
WTFlippieDip?!?!
Modern life is weird. Get off my lawn.
</curmudgeon>
Yeah I don’t know about that, perhaps that is just your perception or a stereotype. I’m a “millennial” and I grew up going to dances with kids my age, I sewed A LOT and still do, and I’ve been playing a musical instrument my entire life. Also involved in sports. For dates my husband and I often go ice skating, roller blading, all sorts of things. But I guess I didn’t grow up watching much TV. I also love to cook and I love watching cooking shows too, I learn a lot from them.
Right that's the thing, I'm in my early 30s and grew up playing an instrument pretty seriously (which is surprising given some other demographic information), have been a choral singer for the past 4 years, was involved in sports as a kid (until music took precedence), and just got back from rowing practice (after stopping at farmers market).
Most of my friends cook a lot (as do I), I know a ton of people within 10 years of me (in either direction) who do fiber arts and play sports, the number of people who tell me that they also row or are a musician is somewhat staggering (these are people who I either don't know through rowing or don't know through choir), and over the course of two weeks my favorite vender at farmers market and I realized that both knit and both row (though she doesn't row much now). I know fewer people who dance, but even then I know people who take various types of dance lessons or who just like going out dancing.
Note the age range of the people who I hang out with is between 25 and 55, but I also frequently chat with people who are in their mid 60s to their mid 70s by virtue of us being in the same choir or rowing together. One of my favorite people from my now disbanded German group was also in her early to mid 70s.5 -
suziecue25 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
Mary Berry, chief Judge on Great British Bake Off is in her 80's and has been the Guru of British baking for decades. She has always baked up a storm but is really slim. When asked why she didn't get fat [not pc I know lol] when she was cooking all these lovely things she replied, I don't eat everything but I taste everything and share. That is obviously the answer!
Mary Berry is no longer a judge. The last couple of seasons (at least the ones broadcast in the US) Paul Hollywood and Prue (don’t remember her last name) are the judges. Paul is the only original left. Mel and Sue were replaced too I love the show and miss Mary, Sue, and Mel, but the others are good as well. Paul seems kinder and gentler now and has even shook contestants hands when they have done well.6 -
missysippy930 wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
Mary Berry, chief Judge on Great British Bake Off is in her 80's and has been the Guru of British baking for decades. She has always baked up a storm but is really slim. When asked why she didn't get fat [not pc I know lol] when she was cooking all these lovely things she replied, I don't eat everything but I taste everything and share. That is obviously the answer!
Mary Berry is no longer a judge. The last couple of seasons (at least the ones broadcast in the US) Paul Hollywood and Prue (don’t remember her last name) are the judges. Paul is the only original left. Mel and Sue were replaced too I love the show and miss Mary, Sue, and Mel, but the others are good as well. Paul seems kinder and gentler now and has even shook contestants hands when they have done well.
Yes you are right, Mary has not been judging for a year or so
[There was a big argument with the BBC over fees and Sue & Mel quit and then Mary left in sympathy ] but everything else I have said about her is pukka and she is still quite high profile.
Edit. Its Prue Leith who you mean....IMHO a highly critical, bitchy chef and ... I don't like her and never have but Paul is just and fair and 'knows his onions'.
Edit again....I'm so used to Mary being a Judge...no-one can take her place.1 -
missysippy930 wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
Mary Berry, chief Judge on Great British Bake Off is in her 80's and has been the Guru of British baking for decades. She has always baked up a storm but is really slim. When asked why she didn't get fat [not pc I know lol] when she was cooking all these lovely things she replied, I don't eat everything but I taste everything and share. That is obviously the answer!
Mary Berry is no longer a judge. The last couple of seasons (at least the ones broadcast in the US) Paul Hollywood and Prue (don’t remember her last name) are the judges. Paul is the only original left. Mel and Sue were replaced too I love the show and miss Mary, Sue, and Mel, but the others are good as well. Paul seems kinder and gentler now and has even shook contestants hands when they have done well.
I quite like Noel and trying to guess what kind of shirt he'll wear next I liked him in IT Crowd. It's good to see him again. 5 -
suziecue25 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
Mary Berry, chief Judge on Great British Bake Off is in her 80's and has been the Guru of British baking for decades. She has always baked up a storm but is really slim. When asked why she didn't get fat [not pc I know lol] when she was cooking all these lovely things she replied, I don't eat everything but I taste everything and share. That is obviously the answer!
Mary Berry is no longer a judge. The last couple of seasons (at least the ones broadcast in the US) Paul Hollywood and Prue (don’t remember her last name) are the judges. Paul is the only original left. Mel and Sue were replaced too I love the show and miss Mary, Sue, and Mel, but the others are good as well. Paul seems kinder and gentler now and has even shook contestants hands when they have done well.
Yes you are right, Mary has not been judging for a year or so [There was a big argument with the BBC over fees and Sue & Mel quit and then Mary left in sympathy ] but everything else I have said about her is pukka and she is still quite high profile.
Edit. Its Prue Leith who you mean....IMHO a highly critical, bitchy chef and ... I don't like her and never have but Paul is just and fair and 'knows his onions'.
Edit again....I'm so used to Mary being a Judge...no-one can take her place. You just can't stop yourself... 4 -
cmriverside wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »suziecue25 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I personally have a guilty pleasure of watching that Great British Baking Show on Netflix that's filmed in England in a tent with a bunch of amateur bakers vying for some trophy and having to spend their whole summer being challenged to make ridiculous amounts of baked goodies - some of which look pretty professional.
It's as close to eating cake that I really get anymore.
I stopped watching the Great British Baking Show because those "amateur" bakers made me feel inadequate
And I wanted to #cookallthethings.
Mary Berry, chief Judge on Great British Bake Off is in her 80's and has been the Guru of British baking for decades. She has always baked up a storm but is really slim. When asked why she didn't get fat [not pc I know lol] when she was cooking all these lovely things she replied, I don't eat everything but I taste everything and share. That is obviously the answer!
Mary Berry is no longer a judge. The last couple of seasons (at least the ones broadcast in the US) Paul Hollywood and Prue (don’t remember her last name) are the judges. Paul is the only original left. Mel and Sue were replaced too I love the show and miss Mary, Sue, and Mel, but the others are good as well. Paul seems kinder and gentler now and has even shook contestants hands when they have done well.
Yes you are right, Mary has not been judging for a year or so [There was a big argument with the BBC over fees and Sue & Mel quit and then Mary left in sympathy ] but everything else I have said about her is pukka and she is still quite high profile.
Edit. Its Prue Leith who you mean....IMHO a highly critical, bitchy chef and ... I don't like her and never have but Paul is just and fair and 'knows his onions'.
Edit again....I'm so used to Mary being a Judge...no-one can take her place. You just can't stop yourself...
You mean I have the audacity to contribute to a thread I started lol8 -
It's funny. People don't like it when buttons are clicked and they also really don't like it when people disagree with someone and then state why. If disagreeing, not being especially snarky, trying to keep things fairly surface level, and spending the time to write out a post and find some statistics is debating then I'm not sure what to say.
Disagreement on a fairly benign topic doesn't mean that either party is somehow terrible or untrustworthy.
(said post rowing)
edit for something other than typos (also post rowing): I actually really like Ann. That, however, does not mean that we're always going to agree and it definitely doesn't mean that I'm always going to understand an initial point that she was trying to make. That's normal (it's funny because I actually study "how people co-construct meaning" in spoken language) - totally normal. There are plenty of times here and elsewhere where the point I was making has gone completely over someone's head while others understood what I was talking about.
Oh, dear! I like you, too.
What we have here is a definite failure to communicate . . . for which I take full responsibility, as I started us down this path.
I had hoped that my triggering post included enough subtle hints - the "curmudgeon" tags, multiple winkies, "Get off my lawn" - to make clear that it was intended in an over-the-top joking manner. Obviously, this was not clear, or at least not well-received. The initial intended joke was not even clear . . . and I tried to clarify it: Always a mistake, trying to clarify something not very serious in the first place.
I do believe it to be true that modern life is more sedentary overall, on average, work/chores/hobbies, than was true on average in my distant youth. My intention was to exaggerate this view, partly to satirize the social role of the plethora of shows - variants of reality TV - that are so widespread, that involve watching supposedly regular people doing pseudo-regular things, and have us (me included) talking about the principals as if they were our friends and neighbors.
Apologies, OP, for this silly digression I created. It was meant in a joking way, not as a deep and serious fully-justified proposition. It really doesn't make sense for me to continue to debate, explain or justify a not-so-serious post, I think.8 -
It's funny. People don't like it when buttons are clicked and they also really don't like it when people disagree with someone and then state why. If disagreeing, not being especially snarky, trying to keep things fairly surface level, and spending the time to write out a post and find some statistics is debating then I'm not sure what to say.
Disagreement on a fairly benign topic doesn't mean that either party is somehow terrible or untrustworthy.
(said post rowing)
edit for something other than typos (also post rowing): I actually really like Ann. That, however, does not mean that we're always going to agree and it definitely doesn't mean that I'm always going to understand an initial point that she was trying to make. That's normal (it's funny because I actually study "how people co-construct meaning" in spoken language) - totally normal. There are plenty of times here and elsewhere where the point I was making has gone completely over someone's head while others understood what I was talking about.
Oh, dear! I like you, too.
What we have here is a definite failure to communicate . . . for which I take full responsibility, as I started us down this path.
I had hoped that my triggering post included enough subtle hints - the "curmudgeon" tags, multiple winkies, "Get off my lawn" - to make clear that it was intended in an over-the-top joking manner. Obviously, this was not clear, or at least not well-received. The initial intended joke was not even clear . . . and I tried to clarify it: Always a mistake, trying to clarify something not very serious in the first place.
I do believe it to be true that modern life is more sedentary overall, on average, work/chores/hobbies, than was true on average in my distant youth. My intention was to exaggerate this view, partly to satirize the social role of the plethora of shows - variants of reality TV - that are so widespread, that involve watching supposedly regular people doing pseudo-regular things, and have us (me included) talking about the principals as if they were our friends and neighbors.
Apologies, OP, for this silly digression I created. It was meant in a joking way, not as a deep and serious fully-justified proposition. It really doesn't make sense for me to continue to debate, explain or justify a not-so-serious post, I think.
No apology needed. I am 70 and know exactly where you're coming from re: how it was and how it is
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French_Peasant wrote: »TheFitHooker wrote: »Well, I was disappointed when I came into this thread, I followed Ree before she was famous. Read her blog, get to know who she is. She lives on a farm, they are pretty active. I don't know, this was a disappointing thread.
Out of curiosity, what, specifically, was disappointing about it, and how do you envision your post raising the awesomeness level?
For example, since you have followed her for so many years, we would be interested to hear how you have been influenced by her.
Personally, I think it’s one of the more engaging threads going right now (great job OP!) but alas, it probably has a hard time standing up to the excitement of, say, the chit chat threads.
What was disappointing? I was expecting to come here to discuss her site, or her as a person, not to come in here and see the hate of her recipes. Sure, she is a comfort cooking, sure that is why many of us are here. Following her, for many years there is more to her than her cooking. She's really a down to earth sweet lady who LOVES her family more than anything. She has put herself in the spotlight and sure, people will judge her because of that. I can cook some of the fattiest comfort foods that will make a very healthy, healthy nut cringe, doesn't mean that's how we eat every day. I've won cooking contests for some of my fattiest cooking. It doesn't mean I eat it or even cook it all the time.
Why judge her though? I was a fat kid, I was the unpopular one, was the weirdo, I still am the weirdo and unpopular person. I don't really care, I am who I am. She inspired me to love cooking, She inspired to take her recipes and try to find a healthy way to recreate them. I have done so many times. I honestly love her blog a lot more than her TV show.
Chit-chat threads, I post there because I'm bored lol. Most of them don't like me, but I don't care. I still post where ever I feel like it.
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@AnnPT77 fwiw, I am finding your posts in this thread delightful. I’m in my late 30s, but I totally agree with where you’re going. People ARE more sedentary overall. Case in point: it’s about a 2-minute walk down to my son’s school bus stop from our house. The farthest anyone has to walk to get there is about 5 minutes (and not even a FAST 5 minutes. More like a “omg I’m stuck behind the slowest person ever in the mall corridor” 5 minutes). Anyway, regardless of the weather, I’m nearly always the only parent who walks to the bus stop - and makes her kid walk. I see similar examples of this behavior all the time. And I don’t say this to imply that I think I’m better than the other parents. I don’t. I do find it sad that “we” (collective “we”) feel like we have to drive absolutely everywhere.
Annnnd just so that my post doesn’t veer too far away from the original point, I have no issues with calorie-rich food. Mac and cheese is a staple in our house. Sometimes it’s all my kids will eat. 😂
Cheers 🥂6
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