Good Morning America piece on Keto Vs WW?
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I am just curious if anyone else saw this. I am not doing WW or Keto, but waited to see the segment on GMA the other day. I thought it was incredibly biased. It basically said that Keto is a fad and WW will prevail.... and Oprah, Oprah, Oprah. The only positive comment was at the end one of the hosts, said in passing, I do have a lot of friends who have done well on Keto. I don't know, it just seemed like an advertisement for WW.
See it? Thoughts?
See it? Thoughts?
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i mean, i remembe a couple years ago when to do Keto you needed to be under a doctors care for the testing of ketones etc (this was in 2014)...so i kind of do see it as a fad diet - similar to south beach/ atkins etc
WW has been around for years and reinvents itself just as often - so it adjusts to fads overtime
i didn't see the segment - but it seems to just discount good 'ole calorie counting/logging as a way to lose weight11 -
I didn't see it but I don't know why it is a vs. thing as if those are the only two ways to lose weight. I'm not really a fan of either of them.14
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What an odd and random comparison, now I want to find a video of it lol.8
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Oprah is a big reason why Dr. Oz is so popular. No thanks...8
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One of the wire services reported that Oprah lost $39 million based on WW's Q4 earnings. I'm guessing there will be a media campaign to start making up that loss...11
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deannalfisher wrote: »i mean, i remembe a couple years ago when to do Keto you needed to be under a doctors care for the testing of ketones etc (this was in 2014)...so i kind of do see it as a fad diet - similar to south beach/ atkins etc
WW has been around for years and reinvents itself just as often - so it adjusts to fads overtime
i didn't see the segment - but it seems to just discount good 'ole calorie counting/logging as a way to lose weight
Pretty much this^^^
And keto at the moment is most definitely the biggest fad diet. These things come and go like paleo, primal, SB, Atkins, etc...10 -
One of the wire services reported that Oprah lost $39 million based on WW's Q4 earnings. I'm guessing there will be a media campaign to start making up that loss...
Yep, it's been all over the news this week-WW has lost a lot of money because they had to downgrade their outlook for this year (if I'm understanding correctly). She's lost a LOT of money from this and they're scrambling to fix things. She's supposedly going to be in more of WW advertising to try and work off of her popularity (up til now she's been more in the background). Wouldn't surprise me at all if the GMA segment is tied to this comeback push.
With so many cheaper/free alternatives out there now (MFP, ibites etc), I don't know how they still generate business with their fees. It will be interesting to see what happens with them over the next few years.5 -
One of the wire services reported that Oprah lost $39 million based on WW's Q4 earnings. I'm guessing there will be a media campaign to start making up that loss...
This is my thought as well. WW stock took a huge dive earlier this week so I'm sure the segment was a paid-for promotion by WW.1 -
I can see it both ways, Keto seems like a fad but it's also been around for a while in the form of Atkins, Sugarbusters, South Beach, ect. They probably praised WWs (aside from the Oprah factor) because you can eat whatever you want as long as you account for it which may make it easier for some to follow and stick with it long term. Eliminating certain foods from one's diet may not be as easy as it sounds. Just my opinion for what its worth.2
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The person that said keto would fail and WW will prevail was the CEO of WW, so obviously she was biased lol.5
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I can see it both ways, Keto seems like a fad but it's also been around for a while in the form of Atkins, Sugarbusters, South Beach, ect. They probably praised WWs (aside from the Oprah factor) because you can eat whatever you want as long as you account for it which may make it easier for some to follow and stick with it long term. Eliminating certain foods from one's diet may not be as easy as it sounds. Just my opinion for what its worth.
Don't know what Sugarbusters is, but Atkins and South Beach weren't keto diets. Phase I of SB is very low carb, but it is only for a short period of time before you move into phase II and reintroduce carbohydrates and from there it's more of a whole foods, balanced diet approach. Atkins was a high protein low carb diet and also had a carb reintroduction phase.
Keto is very high fat, low carb, and modest protein to maintain ketosis and you don't reintroduce carbs ever unless you want to get out of ketosis. It's been around forever as a medical diet for epilepsy...as a weight loss diet, it's definitely a fad at the moment...it's like all you hear about on FB and other social media and everyone and their cousin is doing it and all kinds of outlandish claims are being made from curing cancer to you name it. It's in full on cult status right now.3 -
Can't blame it all on keto.
Rebranding didn't help. The new Freestyle program is not working for many members so they left. There's a plethora of free apps (hello MFP!), including one that allows you to do prior WW plans for free (some of which worked better than Freestyle according to users). Their Connect feature changed posting rules, and a few of the popular kids decided to leave over that. Plus weight loss surgery.
WW just isn't the first or only option, and they're changing too much to often.3 -
I think WW value is down about 30%.
It works for some. I tried if after my first kid. Lost about 10lbs in 3 months, but u was hungry all the time. Keto lowered my appetite and it is a free woe. For people like me, WW isnt worth the money.
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I did WW in the 90s (when they demonized fat, lol). It was partially subsidized by my employer, and I liked my group and leaders, so it was worth it then.
In 2012 I was looking for a WW group, had sticker shock over the price, and found MFP, which overall suits me much better.
However, I do miss the accountability of a public weekly weigh in.6 -
RelCanonical wrote: »Oprah is a big reason why Dr. Oz is so popular. No thanks...
Dr. Oz.... wish the douche bag would ride a tornado back home! Always selling quackery.....2 -
WW vs Keto
Only one of these is a 'commercial' diet, the other one comes for free!0 -
I can see Keto being the "now" thing! Yes.........many lose on Keto and with successes!!! But....once you want to go back to pasta,rice,pizza is that weight gonna return 2 fold?! I have seen it happen in paleo as well as atkins.
Would it not be better to not forbid any food group and adapt in reasonable amounts?
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When Oprah was still running, wasnt it on ABC? Stands to reason that ABC and Oprah still have ties. Both would have something to gain for success of WW, since their stock is plummeting.1
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I really don't have an informed opinion on either. I just didn't like how biased it was. Do what works for you!1
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They are both strategies to lose weight. I think they are both perfectly fine if you like the foods and feel good. Diets aren’t a religion.... there’s not one right one to believe in.4
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Running_and_Coffee wrote: »They are both strategies to lose weight. I think they are both perfectly fine if you like the foods and feel good. Diets aren’t a religion.... there’s not one right one to believe in..
I want the bolded on a tee shirt please :flowerforyou:4
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