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Help With Starbucks Calories?
starryphoenix
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Hey, so I got a flat white at Starbucks today. I need help estimating the calories because I had them make it different than they usually do.
It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan. I’m just not sure how many calories it was. 🤔
It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan. I’m just not sure how many calories it was. 🤔
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So essentially you had espresso and heavy cream. Google tells me there are four shots of espresso in a venti sized drink and that the venti size is 20oz so essentially you had around 16oz of heavy cream give or take for the volume of foam. 16oz of heavy cream is 1,600 calories.9
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The Starbucks website says that the default recipe for a flat white uses whole milk, and a venti sized flat white has 290 kcals. Also according to the Starbucks website, four shots of espresso have 20 kcal, leaving 270 kcals from the whole milk, meaning they use about 14.5 fl. oz. of milk in a venti flat white. Assuming they used the same amount of heavy cream, and we're talking about a 36% fat cream, that's about 1460 kcal from the cream, plus 20 kcal from espresso.
I hope it was worth it. And that you have calories left for some protein. Only 15 g of protein in your drink (13 from the cream, and couple of grams from the espresso).
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Not really related ... but the diner down the street makes an awesome "fat elvis" milk shake with that amount of calories - a whole day's worth for me ... and one of these days I am going to enjoy one. Hope your "full" flat white was delicious, OP.1
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I think the starbucks website has a drink maker that helps estimate calories. I would use that.3
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SchweddyGirl wrote: »I think the starbucks website has a drink maker that helps estimate calories. I would use that.
It does, but it does not include heavy cream as an option.1 -
Holy *kitten*.10
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BattyKnitter wrote: »Holy *kitten*.
Exactly what I thought.....a days worth of calories in one beverage.
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missysippy930 wrote: »BattyKnitter wrote: »Holy *kitten*.
Exactly what I thought.....a days worth of calories in one beverage.
I guess sometimes we have to learn the hard way LOL!1 -
a venti cup of cream is a LOT of cream
i get a tall flat white with skim milk :P actually i tried it with almond milk and won't be doing that again even to save calories
So essentially you had espresso and heavy cream. Google tells me there are four shots of espresso in a venti sized drink and that the venti size is 20oz so essentially you had around 16oz of heavy cream give or take for the volume of foam. 16oz of heavy cream is 1,600 calories.
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Yeeeugh. I mean, I love cream, and that much sounds kind of gross, tbh. Did you mean that all of what would have been milk was replaced with cream? Or that they used part milk and part cream??4
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SchweddyGirl wrote: »I think the starbucks website has a drink maker that helps estimate calories. I would use that.
It does, but it does not include heavy cream as an option.
Well, how much milk is included in the venti? Figure that out, subtract the calories of the milk, add calories for heavy cream. One cup of heavy cream is about 821 calories.3 -
When you say "enough cream to make it tan" I'm hoping that means the entire thing wasn't just cream and espresso, but that they added some cream in place of some of the milk. However, no one here could know for sure. I think "more calories than a drink should have" probably covers it.10
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When you say "enough cream to make it tan" I'm hoping that means the entire thing wasn't just cream and espresso, but that they added some cream in place of some of the milk. However, no one here could know for sure. I think "more calories than a drink should have" probably covers it.
Honestly I suspect the entire thing was made out of cream (and the four shots of espresso) - or at least that's how I read "a flat white made with heavy cream". For the sake of comparison, I would assume if someone said "a flat white made with almond milk" it would be espresso and almond milk
While I'm willing to consume dairy products in the context of coffee, I can't imagine drinking that much cream.3 -
SchweddyGirl wrote: »SchweddyGirl wrote: »I think the starbucks website has a drink maker that helps estimate calories. I would use that.
It does, but it does not include heavy cream as an option.
Well, how much milk is included in the venti? Figure that out, subtract the calories of the milk, add calories for heavy cream. One cup of heavy cream is about 821 calories.
Well, someone did exactly as you say 2 posts above your last post.3 -
SchweddyGirl wrote: »SchweddyGirl wrote: »I think the starbucks website has a drink maker that helps estimate calories. I would use that.
It does, but it does not include heavy cream as an option.
Well, how much milk is included in the venti? Figure that out, subtract the calories of the milk, add calories for heavy cream. One cup of heavy cream is about 821 calories.
Like I did in the second post of the thread?lynn_glenmont wrote: »The Starbucks website says that the default recipe for a flat white uses whole milk, and a venti sized flat white has 290 kcals. Also according to the Starbucks website, four shots of espresso have 20 kcal, leaving 270 kcals from the whole milk, meaning they use about 14.5 fl. oz. of milk in a venti flat white. Assuming they used the same amount of heavy cream, and we're talking about a 36% fat cream, that's about 1460 kcal from the cream, plus 20 kcal from espresso.
I hope it was worth it. And that you have calories left for some protein. Only 15 g of protein in your drink (13 from the cream, and couple of grams from the espresso).
ETA: What I'm curious about is whether Starbucks sells this for the same price as a regular flat white, because with nearly a pint of heavy cream, that's a significant increase in the cost of ingredients.7 -
Why not go back to the Starbucks and ask? Seems from here the only way you are going to know for sure how the drink was made is to ask the people who made it. Everything else is just random people on the internet guessing.
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grinning_chick wrote: »Why not go back to the Starbucks and ask? Seems from here the only way you are going to know for sure how the drink was made is to ask the people who made it. Everything else is just random people on the internet guessing.
I suppose I agree to some extent, but it's a very uncomplicated drink so it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. It didn't take me that long, but I also knew what to look up.1 -
When you say "enough cream to make it tan" I'm hoping that means the entire thing wasn't just cream and espresso, but that they added some cream in place of some of the milk. However, no one here could know for sure. I think "more calories than a drink should have" probably covers it.
Honestly I suspect the entire thing was made out of cream (and the four shots of espresso) - or at least that's how I read "a flat white made with heavy cream". For the sake of comparison, I would assume if someone said "a flat white made with almond milk" it would be espresso and almond milk
While I'm willing to consume dairy products in the context of coffee, I can't imagine drinking that much cream.
You're probably right! I was just grasping at straws to keep from believing
Also, I hate coffee drinks. So I'm not even qualified to be in this thread.1 -
You’ve butchered a flat white! That’s not how you’re supposed to have it.
And yes, there’s a reason I don’t do Starbucks with whipped cream on top (I assume that’s what you meant?) anymore. The scales are not kind the next day.0 -
Don't tell me...this is a keto drink, huh?8
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That sounds so awful. A venti cup full of heavy cream?! Why bother with the espresso and the mark-up; just go to the grocery store and buy a pint of heavy cream and chug away 🤣5
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bluesheeponahill wrote: »You’ve butchered a flat white! That’s not how you’re supposed to have it.
And yes, there’s a reason I don’t do Starbucks with whipped cream on top (I assume that’s what you meant?) anymore. The scales are not kind the next day.
That's not how everybody else is interpreting it. OP said made with heavy cream. Not with whipped cream added.1 -
Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.1
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bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
I'm assuming lynn was responding to this part of your post:And yes, there’s a reason I don’t do Starbucks with whipped cream on top (I assume that’s what you meant?) anymore. The scales are not kind the next day.1 -
bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
Okay, but the OP specifically wrote "I had them make it different than they usually do. It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan."
I don't know why OP would speak about whipped cream in this way. Whipped cream is on top of the drink as you stated, not blended in to make it tan. It seems pretty clear to me that the OP had them make the drink with heavy cream either in place of the milk or with milk and heavy cream. That's what people are trying to find out because drinking all that heavy cream seems unfathomable. I'm fairly certain the OP didn't mean whipped cream, though.4 -
I'm still waiting for the actual ratios because this thread makes me laugh every time I see it. Heavy cream is just off the table for me, the calories are more offensive than granola which is saying something.
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Just for comparison - an whole 1.5 quart tub of Breyer's coffee ice cream is 1600 calories.3
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At Starbucks you can request any milk you want your drink made of, and there is an upcharge for anything other than nonfat, 2%, or whole. Yes, they will even make your espresso drink with heavy whipping cream on request (even though it is difficult to steam properly). Any special milk requested is not mixed with any other type of milk, with the exception of eggnog, unless requested. So, yeah, OP had a venti heavy whip flat white. They must be keto...4
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Maxematics wrote: »bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
Okay, but the OP specifically wrote "I had them make it different than they usually do. It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan."
I don't know why OP would speak about whipped cream in this way. Whipped cream is on top of the drink as you stated, not blended in to make it tan. It seems pretty clear to me that the OP had them make the drink with heavy cream either in place of the milk or with milk and heavy cream. That's what people are trying to find out because drinking all that heavy cream seems unfathomable. I'm fairly certain the OP didn't mean whipped cream, though.
It's just cream in a venti, well, It's just not done in australia like that. I don't think we even have cream as an option. Its Milk, skim, Soy, Almond, and whipped cream. There isn't any cream option. Which is why I was confused.
I know if I go into a Starbucks in the UK, you cannot get a Venti Flat white. you can only get a grande, and even then, they don't add extra espresso shots. its the same number of espresso shots as a Tall. you're just getting more milk. Where as in australia, we do Venti flat whites with the right ratio of shots to a venti.
Different countries, different rules I guess. Which is why I was surprised at a flat white with cream. that's not even a flat white. thats espresso with a huge serving of cream.
A flat white is an Australian drink, which is why I said that's not how you do a flat white.
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bluesheeponahill wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
Okay, but the OP specifically wrote "I had them make it different than they usually do. It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan."
I don't know why OP would speak about whipped cream in this way. Whipped cream is on top of the drink as you stated, not blended in to make it tan. It seems pretty clear to me that the OP had them make the drink with heavy cream either in place of the milk or with milk and heavy cream. That's what people are trying to find out because drinking all that heavy cream seems unfathomable. I'm fairly certain the OP didn't mean whipped cream, though.
It's just cream in a venti, well, It's just not done in australia like that. I don't think we even have cream as an option. Its Milk, skim, Soy, Almond, and whipped cream. There isn't any cream option. Which is why I was confused.
I know if I go into a Starbucks in the UK, you cannot get a Venti Flat white. you can only get a grande, and even then, they don't add extra espresso shots. its the same number of espresso shots as a Tall. you're just getting more milk. Where as in australia, we do Venti flat whites with the right ratio of shots to a venti.
Different countries, different rules I guess. Which is why I was surprised at a flat white with cream. that's not even a flat white. thats espresso with a huge serving of cream.
A flat white is an Australian drink, which is why I said that's not how you do a flat white.
Let's not pretend that Starbucks is typically great about making drinks true to their form with regards to the name of the drink. See their usage of the term macchiato...3
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