Help With Starbucks Calories?
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Let's not pretend that Starbucks is typically great about making drinks true to their form with regards to the name of the drink. See their usage of the term macchiato...[/quote]
You raise a fair point.0 -
bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
I'm assuming lynn was responding to this part of your post:And yes, there’s a reason I don’t do Starbucks with whipped cream on top (I assume that’s what you meant?) anymore. The scales are not kind the next day.
Yes, thanks, that's what I meant. The fact that most of us don't consider nearly a pint of cream with some espresso to be a proper flat white doesn't have any relevance to OP's question, which clearly states that the drink wasn't made to the standard recipe -- i.e., wasn't a "proper" flat white.4 -
Wow...that's some beverage... And here I thought, a Big Mac and medium fries (870 cal, 29 gr protein) should make me feel bad....1
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Kathryn247 wrote: »Just for comparison - an whole 1.5 quart tub of Breyer's coffee ice cream is 1600 calories.
Or, TWO good-sized dinners I would cook at home would be about 1600 calories. I'm not a fanatic about not drinking your calories -- I see nothing wrong with a glass of milk, or a splash of milk or light cream in coffee or tea if you like it that way, or a glass of juice with breakfast (although I'm more likely to thin it with seltzer and have it in the afternoon), etc. -- but the only situation in which 1600 calories for a single drink seems rational is if you are trying to gain weight and are someone who just can't stomach lots of solid food.
You could have two milk shakes at most chains for 1600 calories.3 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »At Starbucks you can request any milk you want your drink made of, and there is an upcharge for anything other than nonfat, 2%, or whole. Yes, they will even make your espresso drink with heavy whipping cream on request (even though it is difficult to steam properly). Any special milk requested is not mixed with any other type of milk, with the exception of eggnog, unless requested. So, yeah, OP had a venti heavy whip flat white. They must be keto...
Thanks, I was wondering whether there was an upcharge. Never having asked for a drink to be made with heavy cream, I had no idea.
I wonder if you can get it for free under the rewards program, which, in the U.S., currently theoretically lets you get a drink made any way you want for roughly every $62.50 you spend (roughly equivalent to buy 10, get one free, if you're buying venti versions of the priciest drinks). I don't like sweet coffee, so my typical orders are grande nonfat lattes and grande americanos, and iced versions of the same or cold brew in warm weather, and I've actually had the person at the cash register talk me into getting a venti or a trente, or adding extra shots of espresso, because they felt I was "wasting" my reward by getting a relatively inexpensive drink.1 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »At Starbucks you can request any milk you want your drink made of, and there is an upcharge for anything other than nonfat, 2%, or whole. Yes, they will even make your espresso drink with heavy whipping cream on request (even though it is difficult to steam properly). Any special milk requested is not mixed with any other type of milk, with the exception of eggnog, unless requested. So, yeah, OP had a venti heavy whip flat white. They must be keto...
Thanks, I was wondering whether there was an upcharge. Never having asked for a drink to be made with heavy cream, I had no idea.
I wonder if you can get it for free under the rewards program, which, in the U.S., currently theoretically lets you get a drink made any way you want for roughly every $62.50 you spend (roughly equivalent to buy 10, get one free, if you're buying venti versions of the priciest drinks). I don't like sweet coffee, so my typical orders are grande nonfat lattes and grande americanos, and iced versions of the same or cold brew in warm weather, and I've actually had the person at the cash register talk me into getting a venti or a trente, or adding extra shots of espresso, because they felt I was "wasting" my reward by getting a relatively inexpensive drink.
i still end up getting random tall cheaper drink of my freebie. i am not willing to commit more than 100cals to a dirnk (even a tall latte with half a pump of something and skim mlik is about 100)
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bluesheeponahill wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
Okay, but the OP specifically wrote "I had them make it different than they usually do. It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan."
I don't know why OP would speak about whipped cream in this way. Whipped cream is on top of the drink as you stated, not blended in to make it tan. It seems pretty clear to me that the OP had them make the drink with heavy cream either in place of the milk or with milk and heavy cream. That's what people are trying to find out because drinking all that heavy cream seems unfathomable. I'm fairly certain the OP didn't mean whipped cream, though.
It's just cream in a venti, well, It's just not done in australia like that. I don't think we even have cream as an option. Its Milk, skim, Soy, Almond, and whipped cream. There isn't any cream option. Which is why I was confused.
I know if I go into a Starbucks in the UK, you cannot get a Venti Flat white. you can only get a grande, and even then, they don't add extra espresso shots. its the same number of espresso shots as a Tall. you're just getting more milk. Where as in australia, we do Venti flat whites with the right ratio of shots to a venti.
Different countries, different rules I guess. Which is why I was surprised at a flat white with cream. that's not even a flat white. thats espresso with a huge serving of cream.
A flat white is an Australian drink, which is why I said that's not how you do a flat white.
I was going to say it's not on the menu in the U.S., but that they'll pretty much make you any combination you can imagine with the ingredients on hand, and they make the whipped cream fresh, so obviously they have heavy cream on hand.
Then I looked in the app and was shocked to discover that there is an option to customize a flat white to get a venti made with heavy cream. And they only wanted to charge me an extra 60 cents for that, which I thought was a bargain, compared to 90 cents for an extra shot of espresso.
However inscrutable OP's calorie choices might be, s/he has certainly found the nearest thing to a bargain at Starbucks.4 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »bluesheeponahill wrote: »Maxematics wrote: »bluesheeponahill wrote: »Flat white needs neither heavy cream or whipped. Which is what I’m saying, a proper Flat white is 2 espressos and 250mls of milk, with a thin layer of milk froth.
Okay, but the OP specifically wrote "I had them make it different than they usually do. It was a venti sized Flat white made with heavy cream. There was enough cream in it to make it tan."
I don't know why OP would speak about whipped cream in this way. Whipped cream is on top of the drink as you stated, not blended in to make it tan. It seems pretty clear to me that the OP had them make the drink with heavy cream either in place of the milk or with milk and heavy cream. That's what people are trying to find out because drinking all that heavy cream seems unfathomable. I'm fairly certain the OP didn't mean whipped cream, though.
It's just cream in a venti, well, It's just not done in australia like that. I don't think we even have cream as an option. Its Milk, skim, Soy, Almond, and whipped cream. There isn't any cream option. Which is why I was confused.
I know if I go into a Starbucks in the UK, you cannot get a Venti Flat white. you can only get a grande, and even then, they don't add extra espresso shots. its the same number of espresso shots as a Tall. you're just getting more milk. Where as in australia, we do Venti flat whites with the right ratio of shots to a venti.
Different countries, different rules I guess. Which is why I was surprised at a flat white with cream. that's not even a flat white. thats espresso with a huge serving of cream.
A flat white is an Australian drink, which is why I said that's not how you do a flat white.
I was going to say it's not on the menu in the U.S., but that they'll pretty much make you any combination you can imagine with the ingredients on hand, and they make the whipped cream fresh, so obviously they have heavy cream on hand.
Then I looked in the app and was shocked to discover that there is an option to customize a flat white to get a venti made with heavy cream. And they only wanted to charge me an extra 60 cents for that, which I thought was a bargain, compared to 90 cents for an extra shot of espresso.
However inscrutable OP's calorie choices might be, s/he has certainly found the nearest thing to a bargain at Starbucks.
I mean if you were making a few pints of coffee ice cream you could just get a venti flat white made with cream instead of buying cream. You'd still need some milk, eggs, espresso, etc - but it'd likely be cheaper than getting cream from the store.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »At Starbucks you can request any milk you want your drink made of, and there is an upcharge for anything other than nonfat, 2%, or whole. Yes, they will even make your espresso drink with heavy whipping cream on request (even though it is difficult to steam properly). Any special milk requested is not mixed with any other type of milk, with the exception of eggnog, unless requested. So, yeah, OP had a venti heavy whip flat white. They must be keto...
Thanks, I was wondering whether there was an upcharge. Never having asked for a drink to be made with heavy cream, I had no idea.
I wonder if you can get it for free under the rewards program, which, in the U.S., currently theoretically lets you get a drink made any way you want for roughly every $62.50 you spend (roughly equivalent to buy 10, get one free, if you're buying venti versions of the priciest drinks). I don't like sweet coffee, so my typical orders are grande nonfat lattes and grande americanos, and iced versions of the same or cold brew in warm weather, and I've actually had the person at the cash register talk me into getting a venti or a trente, or adding extra shots of espresso, because they felt I was "wasting" my reward by getting a relatively inexpensive drink.
i still end up getting random tall cheaper drink of my freebie. i am not willing to commit more than 100cals to a dirnk (even a tall latte with half a pump of something and skim mlik is about 100)
I don't put pumps of syrup in my drinks because I'm drinking coffee because I like the taste of coffee. And I have never understood the objection to the calories from milk, especially skim milk. I get 1 gram of protein for every 10 calories, which isn't a bad calorie-to-protein ratio, especially for someone who doesn't eat a lot of meat -- it's one of the better protein sources in my diet. Even if you do eat meat, most people depend on other foods to supplement the protein they get from meat, and skim milk is likely to be one of their better non-meat sources. A lot of the time when I have a latte, it's supplementing an otherwise small breakfast, or serving as a small protein-boosting snack at mid-morning or mid-afternoon, or providing a little real energy to go with the stimulant energy of caffeine on a long drive.
But, obviously, everybody has their own priorities and preferences.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »DancingMoosie wrote: »At Starbucks you can request any milk you want your drink made of, and there is an upcharge for anything other than nonfat, 2%, or whole. Yes, they will even make your espresso drink with heavy whipping cream on request (even though it is difficult to steam properly). Any special milk requested is not mixed with any other type of milk, with the exception of eggnog, unless requested. So, yeah, OP had a venti heavy whip flat white. They must be keto...
Thanks, I was wondering whether there was an upcharge. Never having asked for a drink to be made with heavy cream, I had no idea.
I wonder if you can get it for free under the rewards program, which, in the U.S., currently theoretically lets you get a drink made any way you want for roughly every $62.50 you spend (roughly equivalent to buy 10, get one free, if you're buying venti versions of the priciest drinks). I don't like sweet coffee, so my typical orders are grande nonfat lattes and grande americanos, and iced versions of the same or cold brew in warm weather, and I've actually had the person at the cash register talk me into getting a venti or a trente, or adding extra shots of espresso, because they felt I was "wasting" my reward by getting a relatively inexpensive drink.
I'm pretty sure you can get the most expensively customized drink you can come up with as a freebie with your rewards.0 -
I have a venti vanilla sweet cream cold brew every day, 200 cals. I know there will come a day when I have to tighten up those calories, because let's be honest some days the coffee/cream ratio is not typical.
Anyway, the thought of a venti with nearly nothing but heavy cream makes my teeth hurt.1
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