Surgery and eating
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I would have thought the docs give you something intravenously until you're well enough to eat properly? Maybe I'm missing something here.
Sounds like she already got sent home, so she wouldn't be on anything intravenously. I think she can't eat because of the pain, but can't be for sure - she has to get it checked out. No pain meds after surgery like that isn't cool.3 -
@rickiimarieee how are you feeling today?1
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I love when people turn to a internet message forum for medical advise.
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RelCanonical wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.
Yes, not a stellar recommendation for her health care provider
I thought so as well. He came in after I gave birth and recommended I’d wait 2 weeks after birth for my uterus to go back to somewhat normal size so smaller incision and faster recovery but when I went in for surgery I wasn’t given any directions or follow up. They told me two different things, they filled my abdomen up with gas so I’ll have pain so move around to help the gas escape and such but then they told me not to get up from bed only for the bathroom so
Is this the same one that gave you weight loss meds?
It’s definitely time for a new doc, and moreso if it’s the same one who made that previous recommendation. The lack of care here is astounding.
Also: why aren’t you on anything for pain? If it’s because of addiction-related reasons, i understand the concern, but there are options available.
No. My primary care physician prescribed me those, this doctor is an OB doctor. The care where I’m from is *kitten* to say the least. And no I don’t have any addiction related reasons, they just didn’t prescribe me any. Right after surgery, I woke up they had me have a drink of water and pee then discharged me and sent me home. Didn’t give me any prescriptions, nada.
Get something OTC to take the edge off at least while you contact them. I can't believe they didn't give you a prescription for pain medication for surgery like this. No wonder you're in so much pain.
I’ve been taking Tylenol but called them today and they told me to take Tylenol or Advil lol.1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »RelCanonical wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.
Yes, not a stellar recommendation for her health care provider
I thought so as well. He came in after I gave birth and recommended I’d wait 2 weeks after birth for my uterus to go back to somewhat normal size so smaller incision and faster recovery but when I went in for surgery I wasn’t given any directions or follow up. They told me two different things, they filled my abdomen up with gas so I’ll have pain so move around to help the gas escape and such but then they told me not to get up from bed only for the bathroom so
Is this the same one that gave you weight loss meds?
It’s definitely time for a new doc, and moreso if it’s the same one who made that previous recommendation. The lack of care here is astounding.
Also: why aren’t you on anything for pain? If it’s because of addiction-related reasons, i understand the concern, but there are options available.
No. My primary care physician prescribed me those, this doctor is an OB doctor. The care where I’m from is *kitten* to say the least. And no I don’t have any addiction related reasons, they just didn’t prescribe me any. Right after surgery, I woke up they had me have a drink of water and pee then discharged me and sent me home. Didn’t give me any prescriptions, nada.
Get something OTC to take the edge off at least while you contact them. I can't believe they didn't give you a prescription for pain medication for surgery like this. No wonder you're in so much pain.
Ya, doctors have swung from over-prescribing pain meds to under-prescribing them >.<RelCanonical wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »RelCanonical wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.
Yes, not a stellar recommendation for her health care provider
I thought so as well. He came in after I gave birth and recommended I’d wait 2 weeks after birth for my uterus to go back to somewhat normal size so smaller incision and faster recovery but when I went in for surgery I wasn’t given any directions or follow up. They told me two different things, they filled my abdomen up with gas so I’ll have pain so move around to help the gas escape and such but then they told me not to get up from bed only for the bathroom so
Is this the same one that gave you weight loss meds?
It’s definitely time for a new doc, and moreso if it’s the same one who made that previous recommendation. The lack of care here is astounding.
Also: why aren’t you on anything for pain? If it’s because of addiction-related reasons, i understand the concern, but there are options available.
No. My primary care physician prescribed me those, this doctor is an OB doctor. The care where I’m from is *kitten* to say the least. And no I don’t have any addiction related reasons, they just didn’t prescribe me any. Right after surgery, I woke up they had me have a drink of water and pee then discharged me and sent me home. Didn’t give me any prescriptions, nada.
Get something OTC to take the edge off at least while you contact them. I can't believe they didn't give you a prescription for pain medication for surgery like this. No wonder you're in so much pain.
Ya, doctors have swung from over-prescribing pain meds to under-prescribing them >.<
Seriously, like, these are not the people they need to worry about. I feel bad for those with chronic pain because they probably have to deal with getting under-prescribed, but the lady had surgery, I wouldn't say that's a drug seeking behavior. At least prescribe her some Tylenol 3-4 or something. Doesn't have to be an opiate.
Thank you, I called them today and they told me to take Tylenol or Advil. Lol so not much help. He’s the hospitals on call OB so if i went to the ER, I would get him and he’d tell me the same thing he told me over the phone lol.2 -
deannalfisher wrote: »you weren't given any kind of discharge form when you checked out of the hospital? i just had minor surgery last week (that didn't involve cutting my abdomen open) - and the nurse walked me through everything before they discharged me
if you didn't get anything liek that - which IMHO borders on malpractice and improper care - then yes, i would be going to the ER - 3 days, no painkillers, unable to eat and puking if you try....yeah, my butt would be at the ER
They gave me just a paper saying what surgery I had done and the current medications I’m on. No instructions or anything. I told the nurse I was having extreme pain in my ribs (it was from the gas I guess I don’t know) and she told me to walk around and it’ll help the pain but then the nurse that took me to the doors told me I’m suppose to stay in bed for 3 days only to get up for bathroom breaks so had two completely different answers lmao2 -
sytchequeen wrote: »Pondering.... has pain relief not been offered because they expect you to be breastfeeding? (as a non-Mom with no knowledge on the subject I'm just guessing out there). I have had abdominal surgery - not as extensive as yours. Even with opiates the pain from the wind in my shoulders and upper body was nasty (yes they inflated me too)
No I’m not breastfeeding, I told them I stopped breastfeeding so I don’t know if that’s why. And yeah my ribs were so painful then it moved to my shoulders.1 -
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Yeah the pain makes me nauseous!RelCanonical wrote: »I would have thought the docs give you something intravenously until you're well enough to eat properly? Maybe I'm missing something here.
Sounds like she already got sent home, so she wouldn't be on anything intravenously. I think she can't eat because of the pain, but can't be for sure - she has to get it checked out. No pain meds after surgery like that isn't cool.
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@rickiimarieee how are you feeling today?
Still very nauseous lol. My son was pushing on my stomach all night while I held him (he’s colicky so that’s the only way he won’t cry as much) so got that going on lmao.1 -
I wonder if they are able to maybe give you a shot or some pills to help with at least the nausea so you can get something in your stomach
I tried left over Zofran from my pregnancy for my nausea and it didn’t touch it at all. I asked my doctor about it (the nausea) and he said it’s normal after a surgery like this and as long as I’m getting fluids in, I’m okay lmao.0 -
RelCanonical wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »RelCanonical wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »RelCanonical wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.Part of what informed my "ER soon?" was that the OP said, "when I’m standing up I’m on the verge of blacking out." I don't think she's going to starve, but she also sounds very unwell. I mean I suspect a lot of the feeling on the verge of blacking out has to do with a lack of food but I'm not a doctor. The lack of a follow up appointment is also troubling.
Yes, not a stellar recommendation for her health care provider
I thought so as well. He came in after I gave birth and recommended I’d wait 2 weeks after birth for my uterus to go back to somewhat normal size so smaller incision and faster recovery but when I went in for surgery I wasn’t given any directions or follow up. They told me two different things, they filled my abdomen up with gas so I’ll have pain so move around to help the gas escape and such but then they told me not to get up from bed only for the bathroom so
Is this the same one that gave you weight loss meds?
It’s definitely time for a new doc, and moreso if it’s the same one who made that previous recommendation. The lack of care here is astounding.
Also: why aren’t you on anything for pain? If it’s because of addiction-related reasons, i understand the concern, but there are options available.
No. My primary care physician prescribed me those, this doctor is an OB doctor. The care where I’m from is *kitten* to say the least. And no I don’t have any addiction related reasons, they just didn’t prescribe me any. Right after surgery, I woke up they had me have a drink of water and pee then discharged me and sent me home. Didn’t give me any prescriptions, nada.
Get something OTC to take the edge off at least while you contact them. I can't believe they didn't give you a prescription for pain medication for surgery like this. No wonder you're in so much pain.
Ya, doctors have swung from over-prescribing pain meds to under-prescribing them >.<
Seriously, like, these are not the people they need to worry about. I feel bad for those with chronic pain because they probably have to deal with getting under-prescribed, but the lady had surgery, I wouldn't say that's a drug seeking behavior. At least prescribe her some Tylenol 3-4 or something. Doesn't have to be an opiate.
Right, giving birth and then having tubes tied is hardly drug seeking behavior >.<
My neighbor was in excruciating pain from a bad tooth and wanted pain meds while she was waiting for her appointment for the extraction. Instead of getting a prescription, she was told to go find some pot. This is legal in my state, and absolves the practitioner of the responsibility of prescribing a pain med
Well, I guess if it works. I get annoyed because there are less addictive options for pain management that can be prescribed (like strong Tylenol), but opiates have been pushed so much that it seems like the default go-to. Heck, I got Vicodin when I had my wisdom teeth out at 14 and I don't think I even needed anything more than Tylenol. My completely uneducated opinion is they should start small and work up if needed, but opiates were so pushed by prescription drug companies that no one did that, and now everyone's used to the "no pain whatsoever" but highly addictive nature of opiates.
I agree about the pain meds. I don’t complain about pain or ask for meds at all. This is my 23rd surgery and only had pain meds for less than 5 of them. Maybe 3. I didn’t even have any pain relief during labor. No epidural or anything. But there’s stuff like strong anti inflammatory meds that can help with pain!0 -
RachelElser wrote: »o my, that does not sound normal at all. When my mom had it yanked out, she got pain meds AND nausea meds. At this point you are probably also dehydrated. Do you have an urgent care? Where you can get fluids at least?
Urgent care doesn’t accept military insurance. I took my son there and they just did a swab in his nose to check for the flu and that’s it and charged me almost 2k for the visit.5 -
I don't know anything about the type of surgery you had or how the incision was, but after my csection they gave me a belly supporter thing (like a big velcro girdle) that made me so much more comfortable. It didn't help with the gas discomfort (nature had to take its course on that one) but it did help immensely with pain from simply walking around / moving. Maybe you could ask if that is something allowed or that they think could help?
For food before they discharged me I had to have had a bowel movement as well as keep down food - they said this was something they do for abdominal surgery. They stepped me through the foods until I was back on solids - it was something like:
1. Water
2. Clear liquids like chicken broth
3. Full liquids like cream of chicken soup or pudding.
After that they let me eat anything.
I'm surprised they discharged you without any of that. I hope someone starts listening to you.0 -
rickiimarieee wrote: »RachelElser wrote: »o my, that does not sound normal at all. When my mom had it yanked out, she got pain meds AND nausea meds. At this point you are probably also dehydrated. Do you have an urgent care? Where you can get fluids at least?
Urgent care doesn’t accept military insurance. I took my son there and they just did a swab in his nose to check for the flu and that’s it and charged me almost 2k for the visit.
Oh, you're with the VA? My experience is that they are fine for routine matters but not so much with female-specific issues >.<3 -
kshama2001 wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »RachelElser wrote: »o my, that does not sound normal at all. When my mom had it yanked out, she got pain meds AND nausea meds. At this point you are probably also dehydrated. Do you have an urgent care? Where you can get fluids at least?
Urgent care doesn’t accept military insurance. I took my son there and they just did a swab in his nose to check for the flu and that’s it and charged me almost 2k for the visit.
Oh, you're with the VA? My experience is that they are fine for routine matters but not so much with female-specific issues >.<
I have active duty insurance. It’s called tricare. They’re particularly awful lol. The insurance is suppose to be so “the solider and his/her family doesn’t have to worry about medical problems or bills while serving the country.” Is a joke. They hardly cover any of my medical bills.3 -
rickiimarieee wrote: »RachelElser wrote: »o my, that does not sound normal at all. When my mom had it yanked out, she got pain meds AND nausea meds. At this point you are probably also dehydrated. Do you have an urgent care? Where you can get fluids at least?
Urgent care doesn’t accept military insurance. I took my son there and they just did a swab in his nose to check for the flu and that’s it and charged me almost 2k for the visit.
urgent care will accept TRICARE - but you need to call for pre-authoritization to the nurse help line - this was a change that was instituted a couple of years ago0 -
did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?0 -
deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »RachelElser wrote: »o my, that does not sound normal at all. When my mom had it yanked out, she got pain meds AND nausea meds. At this point you are probably also dehydrated. Do you have an urgent care? Where you can get fluids at least?
Urgent care doesn’t accept military insurance. I took my son there and they just did a swab in his nose to check for the flu and that’s it and charged me almost 2k for the visit.
urgent care will accept TRICARE - but you need to call for pre-authoritization to the nurse help line - this was a change that was instituted a couple of years ago
Actually the ones around me won’t. I’ve been to them and they have turned me away because they don’t accept tricare in their system.0 -
did you call the Tricare Advice line? they can find you a place that will accept...and they will put the referral in the system for you to use1
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deannalfisher wrote: »did you call the Tricare Advice line? they can find you a place that will accept...and they will put the referral in the system for you to use
Yes, took me an hour to go through but they said that my medexpress/medwell doesn’t accept tricare insurance. Told me to go to a nearby emergency room instead.0 -
My urgent cares aren’t an in-network provider. It’s tricare remote.deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
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deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.0 -
rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.
are you contacting tricare after you receive those bills to question why? often times a hospital/doctor doesn't want to deal with tricare and just sends the bill - you shouldn't be paying ANYTHING like the amounts you are describing. what are the EOB's saying? - are the doctors trying to charge you more than is authorized (you should get these from tricare)1 -
deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.
are you contacting tricare after you receive those bills to question why? often times a hospital/doctor doesn't want to deal with tricare and just sends the bill - you shouldn't be paying ANYTHING like the amounts you are describing. what are the EOB's saying? - are the doctors trying to charge you more than is authorized (you should get these from tricare)
It does sound like something is amiss. Tricare Remote was the best insurance I've ever had. Maybe it varies by region?2 -
deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.
are you contacting tricare after you receive those bills to question why? often times a hospital/doctor doesn't want to deal with tricare and just sends the bill - you shouldn't be paying ANYTHING like the amounts you are describing. what are the EOB's saying? - are the doctors trying to charge you more than is authorized (you should get these from tricare)
No I haven’t contracted them. I receive letters in the mail from my doctor saying how much I owe, then get letters in the mail saying I owe from Humana.0 -
Maybe! I’m not sure. Definitely the most terrible insurance I’ve ever had. I might as well not have any insurance at all. Even paying pretty much full price for all my prescriptions.deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.
are you contacting tricare after you receive those bills to question why? often times a hospital/doctor doesn't want to deal with tricare and just sends the bill - you shouldn't be paying ANYTHING like the amounts you are describing. what are the EOB's saying? - are the doctors trying to charge you more than is authorized (you should get these from tricare)
It does sound like something is amiss. Tricare Remote was the best insurance I've ever had. Maybe it varies by region?
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First of all hugz.
If this were a civilian situation I would suggest having a chat with HR to see why my coverage is so pathetic and what, if anything, I might be able to do to get smaller bills.
It could be that you're getting gouged by the providers, or missing the opportunity to cover things that could be covered, or maybe would be able to get some of these things covered if you did them somewhere else or through a different referral pathway. <--- if you know you have these options you can then decide if they are worth pursuing.
I always thought that you guys took relatively good care of your serving forces.
Based on what you have been through lately I really wouldn't want to use the same hospitals and providers you have been!!!!0 -
rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.
are you contacting tricare after you receive those bills to question why? often times a hospital/doctor doesn't want to deal with tricare and just sends the bill - you shouldn't be paying ANYTHING like the amounts you are describing. what are the EOB's saying? - are the doctors trying to charge you more than is authorized (you should get these from tricare)
No I haven’t contracted them. I receive letters in the mail from my doctor saying how much I owe, then get letters in the mail saying I owe from Humana.
you need to call humana - you should get EOB's for all services (explanation of benefits) which should tell you what they covered and what you owe if anything - if you are using out of network docs that could maybe explain the charges - but i would then ask why isn't your PCM referring you to in-network2 -
deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »rickiimarieee wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »did you go to an authorized provider? i had tricare (both active duty and reserve for years) - and as long as i went to an in-network provider - i paid no more for them than i did for my civilian insurance
are you on tricare prime? tricare remote?
My civilian insurance, I never got any medical bills. Now with tricare, even with referrals and in network providers I’m still paying 1000+ for everything (surgeries and scans, I had surgery every two weeks for 9 months so you can expect 2000+ a month really adds up) Except for blood work and etc, that I pay around 300-400.
are you contacting tricare after you receive those bills to question why? often times a hospital/doctor doesn't want to deal with tricare and just sends the bill - you shouldn't be paying ANYTHING like the amounts you are describing. what are the EOB's saying? - are the doctors trying to charge you more than is authorized (you should get these from tricare)
No I haven’t contracted them. I receive letters in the mail from my doctor saying how much I owe, then get letters in the mail saying I owe from Humana.
you need to call humana - you should get EOB's for all services (explanation of benefits) which should tell you what they covered and what you owe if anything - if you are using out of network docs that could maybe explain the charges - but i would then ask why isn't your PCM referring you to in-network
They are all in network providers, specialists, so I needed a referral from my PCD. I’ll give em a call.0
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