Tired all the time after change in eating habits
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superkitcat wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
I don't think you can speak for all 'people' as lots of us can eat fried food in moderation, so it's not bad.
And even if I ate lots of fried food, it still wouldn't be bad, just potentially highly calorific
I didnt say all people, i said people
Good luck on your journey9 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
What are you talking about? I eat deep fried food in moderation I bet many many people here do too.
You can't jump start weight loss and specific food changes will have no impact on fat loss. Calories determine whether you are in a deficit and if you are you will lose fat weight even if it does not show up on the bathroom scale for a period of time.13 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
What are you talking about? I eat deep fried food in moderation I bet many many people here do too.
You can't jump start weight loss and specific food changes will have no impact on fat loss. Calories determine whether you are in a deficit and if you are you will lose fat weight even if it does not show up on the bathroom scale for a period of time.
Now I want fries from Freddy's.
OP, you made some fairly drastic changes to your diet, with negative consequences, self-admitted in your post here. We're not advising you to start eating a diet rich in deep fried Twinkies. We're just saying maybe all the changes you made aren't necessary, and a little more balance is in order. As it's often said around here, once your nutritional needs are met, you don't get extra credit for more broccoli (although I love broccoli).14 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
Some people not eating a food in moderation doesn't make the food itself bad, it makes the inability to moderate it a bad thing. But people can overeat any kind of food, fruit and veg is considered good, but if I eat so much of it that I can't meet my protein and fat goals within my calorie goal that's not healthy either, it puts maintaining muscle at risk and means I am unlikely to be absorbing as much of the vitamins from the foods I am eating, as many require fat for absorption.
That's fine. However, my initial question was why I'm not losing weight eventho I'm eating healthy and the question has been answered. Thanks All.0 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
Some people not eating a food in moderation doesn't make the food itself bad, it makes the inability to moderate it a bad thing. But people can overeat any kind of food, fruit and veg is considered good, but if I eat so much of it that I can't meet my protein and fat goals within my calorie goal that's not healthy either, it puts maintaining muscle at risk and means I am unlikely to be absorbing as much of the vitamins from the foods I am eating, as many require fat for absorption.
That's fine. However, my initial question was why I'm not losing weight eventho I'm eating healthy and the question has been answered. Thanks All.superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
Some people not eating a food in moderation doesn't make the food itself bad, it makes the inability to moderate it a bad thing. But people can overeat any kind of food, fruit and veg is considered good, but if I eat so much of it that I can't meet my protein and fat goals within my calorie goal that's not healthy either, it puts maintaining muscle at risk and means I am unlikely to be absorbing as much of the vitamins from the foods I am eating, as many require fat for absorption.
That's fine. However, my initial question was why I'm not losing weight eventho I'm eating healthy and the question has been answered. Thanks All.
Actually, your title says you're tired all the time. That means you're not eating enough, and carbs fuel workouts so that could be a reason you're tired. As you yourself said, this is your experiment on yourself. So, observe and learn.15 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
What are you talking about? I eat deep fried food in moderation I bet many many people here do too.
You can't jump start weight loss and specific food changes will have no impact on fat loss. Calories determine whether you are in a deficit and if you are you will lose fat weight even if it does not show up on the bathroom scale for a period of time.
Now I want fries from Freddy's.
Make sure you get enough for everyone or risk being reported for abusive behavior.7 -
superkitcat wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
If you want to eat this way that is fine, but it's 100% unnecessary to make yourself miserable to lose weight.
No on the starvation mode, but I think that's already been addressed.
I am not miserable and I am not hungry. Obviously I am doing something wrong. Some people have given me great advise here of what I am doing wrong and I appreciate their insight.
But you said you don't have energy to do the things you used to do/want to do. You may not call that miserable, but it's not good. You're undereating.11 -
superkitcat wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
I don't think you can speak for all 'people' as lots of us can eat fried food in moderation, so it's not bad.
And even if I ate lots of fried food, it still wouldn't be bad, just potentially highly calorific
I didnt say all people, i said people
That makes even less sense.
Just because you and those around you can't eat something in moderation doesn't mean that it's impossible to eat it in moderation.4 -
I will let you all discuss some vs all people and the fact that the low Calories in are impacting Calories out thus not improving much of anything.
Food scale.
Weight trend app: female, exercising, little to lose, small deficit, thinks plateau. Maybe a nice person to link wonderful world of scale fluctuations article and explain about comparing weight to last month at same point of cycle. Play with Libra, Happy Scale, or trendweight.com or weightgrapher.com
Experimenting with new foods is downright awesome. That's how you find good bargains!
Trying to kick start fat loss? Nope. Anything that kicks your start is not mostly fat.
Fat will still take 3500+ Cal per lb--actually a bit more since some lean mass will be lost anyway and it takes more than 1lb scale to lose 1lb fat...7 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
What are you talking about? I eat deep fried food in moderation I bet many many people here do too.
You can't jump start weight loss and specific food changes will have no impact on fat loss. Calories determine whether you are in a deficit and if you are you will lose fat weight even if it does not show up on the bathroom scale for a period of time.
Now I want fries from Freddy's.
OP, you made some fairly drastic changes to your diet, with negative consequences, self-admitted in your post here. We're not advising you to start eating a diet rich in deep fried Twinkies. We're just saying maybe all the changes you made aren't necessary, and a little more balance is in order. As it's often said around here, once your nutritional needs are met, you don't get extra credit for more broccoli (although I love broccoli).
OMG--I can so easily crave a food by seeing it or reading about it (anyone remember that post from a few weeks ago where the guy was doing the "potato diet?" I went to the grocery store after work and bought a beautiful Idaho russet and baked it for dinner). OH! And that episode of "Friends" where Chandler and Rachel are obsessed with stealing and eating cheesecake? Every time I see that episode I want cheesecake (they describe how good it tastes in detail).
Ah, fries ...9 -
I did the whole 30 last fall...I didn’t lose weight and was tired all the time by the end. Once I started eating grains again, my energy perked back up....and I must have been eating at maintenance (no calorie counting).2
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1350 to 1400 was better for me and I still lost the same amt of weight. But sounds like you figured it out.0
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