" I ate 100 grams of sugar for a year"
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OooohToast wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Sugar intake does not cause high blood sugar. It is caused by health conditions such as diabetes, which are not caused by too much sugar. So unless a person has a pre-existing condition that requires them to monitor their sugar and carb intake, a person of normal health does not need to.
While you are stating this as a fact, actually there’s wide disagreement in the medical community about whether excess consumption of quick-digesting carbs such as sugar contributes to the development of diabetes. While no study has ever proven causation, multiple studies have found a strong correlation between a high consumption of added sugar and diabetes. The proposed mechanism is that overproduction of insulin due to excess sugar intake leads to insulin resistance, which is logical enough.
A healthy person can safely eat a lot more sugar than a diabetic can, for sure. But one in eight Americans are diabetic and one in four are pre-diabetic. I’m not a keto fan, but the idea that sugar is great stuff and you should ignore the recommendations of the FDA and just chow down on as much as you want since it can’t hurt you isn’t necessarily valid.
The FDA, and other governmental agencies, recommend limiting added sugar as part of a general diet to people who just eat until they are full. Because added sugar foods tend to be both nutritionally devoid as well as caloric and not that filling. So people who just eat to they are full will be more likely to overeat on a high added sugar diet.
But for calorie counters, you only need to limit added sugars if you find that eating them makes it hard to hit your goal. If you are able to comfortably manage your goals, then the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant.
I appreciate this is the case in the US but here in the UK, the equivalent recommendation is limiting added sugar to 30g per day once you are over 11 years of age, regardless of any other factor.
It all comes from the same base recommendation (from the WHO), which is based off of observation studies that people who consume more added sugar are more overweight than those who do not. But within the research, there is no claims itself that added sugar itself causes weight gain. After all, your body has no way of telling the difference between added sugar and natural sugar. Everything I said still stands true. If you are otherwise healthy and able to control your calories while intaking added sugar, there is no need to reduce it.8 -
rheddmobile wrote: »The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Sugar intake does not cause high blood sugar. It is caused by health conditions such as diabetes, which are not caused by too much sugar. So unless a person has a pre-existing condition that requires them to monitor their sugar and carb intake, a person of normal health does not need to.
While you are stating this as a fact, actually there’s wide disagreement in the medical community about whether excess consumption of quick-digesting carbs such as sugar contributes to the development of diabetes. While no study has ever proven causation, multiple studies have found a strong correlation between a high consumption of added sugar and diabetes. The proposed mechanism is that overproduction of insulin due to excess sugar intake leads to insulin resistance, which is logical enough.
A healthy person can safely eat a lot more sugar than a diabetic can, for sure. But one in eight Americans are diabetic and one in four are pre-diabetic. I’m not a keto fan, but the idea that sugar is great stuff and you should ignore the recommendations of the FDA and just chow down on as much as you want since it can’t hurt you isn’t necessarily valid.
The FDA, and other governmental agencies, recommend limiting added sugar as part of a general diet to people who just eat until they are full. Because added sugar foods tend to be both nutritionally devoid as well as caloric and not that filling. So people who just eat to they are full will be more likely to overeat on a high added sugar diet.
But for calorie counters, you only need to limit added sugars if you find that eating them makes it hard to hit your goal. If you are able to comfortably manage your goals, then the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant.
That's true for weight management. But well rounded nutrition is important, even for calorie counters. After the proper-calories and adequate-nutrition boxes are both checked, then it may be true that "the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant."
Just my opinion, of course5 -
rheddmobile wrote: »The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Sugar intake does not cause high blood sugar. It is caused by health conditions such as diabetes, which are not caused by too much sugar. So unless a person has a pre-existing condition that requires them to monitor their sugar and carb intake, a person of normal health does not need to.
While you are stating this as a fact, actually there’s wide disagreement in the medical community about whether excess consumption of quick-digesting carbs such as sugar contributes to the development of diabetes. While no study has ever proven causation, multiple studies have found a strong correlation between a high consumption of added sugar and diabetes. The proposed mechanism is that overproduction of insulin due to excess sugar intake leads to insulin resistance, which is logical enough.
A healthy person can safely eat a lot more sugar than a diabetic can, for sure. But one in eight Americans are diabetic and one in four are pre-diabetic. I’m not a keto fan, but the idea that sugar is great stuff and you should ignore the recommendations of the FDA and just chow down on as much as you want since it can’t hurt you isn’t necessarily valid.
The FDA, and other governmental agencies, recommend limiting added sugar as part of a general diet to people who just eat until they are full. Because added sugar foods tend to be both nutritionally devoid as well as caloric and not that filling. So people who just eat to they are full will be more likely to overeat on a high added sugar diet.
But for calorie counters, you only need to limit added sugars if you find that eating them makes it hard to hit your goal. If you are able to comfortably manage your goals, then the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant.
That's true for weight management. But well rounded nutrition is important, even for calorie counters. After the proper-calories and adequate-nutrition boxes are both checked, then it may be true that "the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant."
Just my opinion, of course
Yes. And foods high in added sugar can sometimes crowd out other nutrients. Nobody is recommending a pixie stick diet. But there are a lot of other foods that if eaten in excess can crowd out other nutrients as well. Not strictly sugar intake. So being well rounded is important. But controlling sugar is not necessary to do that.7 -
OooohToast wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Sugar intake does not cause high blood sugar. It is caused by health conditions such as diabetes, which are not caused by too much sugar. So unless a person has a pre-existing condition that requires them to monitor their sugar and carb intake, a person of normal health does not need to.
While you are stating this as a fact, actually there’s wide disagreement in the medical community about whether excess consumption of quick-digesting carbs such as sugar contributes to the development of diabetes. While no study has ever proven causation, multiple studies have found a strong correlation between a high consumption of added sugar and diabetes. The proposed mechanism is that overproduction of insulin due to excess sugar intake leads to insulin resistance, which is logical enough.
A healthy person can safely eat a lot more sugar than a diabetic can, for sure. But one in eight Americans are diabetic and one in four are pre-diabetic. I’m not a keto fan, but the idea that sugar is great stuff and you should ignore the recommendations of the FDA and just chow down on as much as you want since it can’t hurt you isn’t necessarily valid.
The FDA, and other governmental agencies, recommend limiting added sugar as part of a general diet to people who just eat until they are full. Because added sugar foods tend to be both nutritionally devoid as well as caloric and not that filling. So people who just eat to they are full will be more likely to overeat on a high added sugar diet.
But for calorie counters, you only need to limit added sugars if you find that eating them makes it hard to hit your goal. If you are able to comfortably manage your goals, then the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant.
I appreciate this is the case in the US but here in the UK, the equivalent recommendation is limiting added sugar to 30g per day once you are over 11 years of age, regardless of any other factor.
The point isn't the amount, it's the reasoning behind it, which is what Mike was saying. There isn't something inherently bad about added sugar. It's the fact that most people who are eating a lot of added sugars are therefore eating too many calories. It's easier to convince people added sugars are the boogeyman and they should avoid them (thereby accidentally reducing cals and eating more filling food ) than it is to just convince people to count the dang calories in the first place. If you look at the reasoning major health organizations give for limiting added sugar, it is basically because high sugar diets lead to too many calories leads to obesity, and dental health.10 -
OooohToast wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »The sugar is especially bad when you are eating excess carbs in total which is what drives up blood sugar. If you are eating in a deficit then its going to be hard to drive that blood sugar up too high given reasonable eating times, etc.
Sugar intake does not cause high blood sugar. It is caused by health conditions such as diabetes, which are not caused by too much sugar. So unless a person has a pre-existing condition that requires them to monitor their sugar and carb intake, a person of normal health does not need to.
While you are stating this as a fact, actually there’s wide disagreement in the medical community about whether excess consumption of quick-digesting carbs such as sugar contributes to the development of diabetes. While no study has ever proven causation, multiple studies have found a strong correlation between a high consumption of added sugar and diabetes. The proposed mechanism is that overproduction of insulin due to excess sugar intake leads to insulin resistance, which is logical enough.
A healthy person can safely eat a lot more sugar than a diabetic can, for sure. But one in eight Americans are diabetic and one in four are pre-diabetic. I’m not a keto fan, but the idea that sugar is great stuff and you should ignore the recommendations of the FDA and just chow down on as much as you want since it can’t hurt you isn’t necessarily valid.
The FDA, and other governmental agencies, recommend limiting added sugar as part of a general diet to people who just eat until they are full. Because added sugar foods tend to be both nutritionally devoid as well as caloric and not that filling. So people who just eat to they are full will be more likely to overeat on a high added sugar diet.
But for calorie counters, you only need to limit added sugars if you find that eating them makes it hard to hit your goal. If you are able to comfortably manage your goals, then the amount of added sugar you consume is irrelevant.
I appreciate this is the case in the US but here in the UK, the equivalent recommendation is limiting added sugar to 30g per day once you are over 11 years of age, regardless of any other factor.
so basically a can of orange soda a day ....BOO1 -
The point isn't the amount, it's the reasoning behind it, which is what Mike was saying. There isn't something inherently bad about added sugar. It's the fact that most people who are eating a lot of added sugars are therefore eating too many calories. It's easier to convince people added sugars are the boogeyman and they should avoid them (thereby accidentally reducing cals and eating more filling food) than it is to just convince people to count the dang calories in the first place. If you look at the reasoning major health organizations give for limiting added sugar, it is basically because high sugar diets lead to too many calories leads to obesity, and [because of] dental health [concerns].
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