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Want to lose weight faster, not count portions and eat until you feel full?
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The negativity to keto here scares me a bit. I’ve lost almost 50 lbs so far on a keto like plan. I say keto like because I do keep fats a little low to keep in my calorie goal. Reading some of these comments makes me worry you feel it is impossible to keep the weight off. When I reach maintenance, If I keep logging and staying in calorie range, will I not be able to maintain?
Yes...if you keep logging and staying at maintenance you will be able to maintain. The reason people are sometimes negative about keto is not keto itself it is statements by some ketoers that it is the only way that you can lose weight. People are different. We all react to things differently even a way of eating.
I couldn't do keto because there are many times that if I eat too much fat I don't feel well for a few days. I love pizza but the last time that I ate it I was sick for 2 days...too much fat.
I personally am all for eating to your preferences. If your chosen way brings you the results then I am happy for you. How you eat doesn't affect my life.
Pizza on a keto diet? No, that's not how it works and I suspect that people think that if they start eating mountains of cheese, pepperoni and bacon they will lose weight on a keto diet...well that may be true but pizza contains mostly unhealthy fat and is still loaded with carbs (the crust). The key is healthy fats...
If you eat pizza on a keto diet, it's not keto.
I’m not keto but I’ve seen lots of keto friendly pizza recipes advocates here - cauliflower crust, fathead pizza, etc.
I usually think if it’s pizza on a keto diet it’s not really pizza but just wanted to confirm that your view of what people should and shouldn’t be eating seems to be narrow enough that it wouldn’t even fly with many keto advocates...
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cmriverside wrote: »The negativity to keto here scares me a bit. I’ve lost almost 50 lbs so far on a keto like plan. I say keto like because I do keep fats a little low to keep in my calorie goal. Reading some of these comments makes me worry you feel it is impossible to keep the weight off. When I reach maintenance, If I keep logging and staying in calorie range, will I not be able to maintain?
Yes...if you keep logging and staying at maintenance you will be able to maintain. The reason people are sometimes negative about keto is not keto itself it is statements by some ketoers that it is the only way that you can lose weight. People are different. We all react to things differently even a way of eating.
I couldn't do keto because there are many times that if I eat too much fat I don't feel well for a few days. I love pizza but the last time that I ate it I was sick for 2 days...too much fat.
I personally am all for eating to your preferences. If your chosen way brings you the results then I am happy for you. How you eat doesn't affect my life.
Pizza on a keto diet? No, that's not how it works and I suspect that people think that if they start eating mountains of cheese, pepperoni and bacon they will lose weight on a keto diet...well that may be true but pizza contains mostly unhealthy fat and is still loaded with carbs (the crust). The key is healthy fats...
If you eat pizza on a keto diet, it's not keto.
Not surprisingly, you seem to have had a reading comprehension fail on that post.
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The negativity to keto here scares me a bit. I’ve lost almost 50 lbs so far on a keto like plan. I say keto like because I do keep fats a little low to keep in my calorie goal. Reading some of these comments makes me worry you feel it is impossible to keep the weight off. When I reach maintenance, If I keep logging and staying in calorie range, will I not be able to maintain?
Yes...if you keep logging and staying at maintenance you will be able to maintain. The reason people are sometimes negative about keto is not keto itself it is statements by some ketoers that it is the only way that you can lose weight. People are different. We all react to things differently even a way of eating.
I couldn't do keto because there are many times that if I eat too much fat I don't feel well for a few days. I love pizza but the last time that I ate it I was sick for 2 days...too much fat.
I personally am all for eating to your preferences. If your chosen way brings you the results then I am happy for you. How you eat doesn't affect my life.
Pizza on a keto diet? No, that's not how it works and I suspect that people think that if they start eating mountains of cheese, pepperoni and bacon they will lose weight on a keto diet...well that may be true but pizza contains mostly unhealthy fat and is still loaded with carbs (the crust). The key is healthy fats...
If you eat pizza on a keto diet, it's not keto.
Re-read the post you're quoting, it doesn't say what you thought it said.9 -
WinoGelato wrote: »OP, I've noticed your posts a lot over the last few days. All basically urging people to go keto. Why do you feel the need? If it's working for you, that's great but it seems like you're trying to gain converts 😁
Not only that but I’ve noticed that this poster never engages in discussion with people who wish to discuss/debate the points he or she is attempting to make. Just drops the assertions in a single post and doesn’t seem to return to the thread. I was hopeful that since this is a post and not just a comment that this time may be different because I too am interested to learn why some keto followers feel the need to assign magical benefits to the diet in order to convince others to try - without just posting facts and saying “it can be as good as any other diet if a person enjoys it and can stick with it, but it is not superior and/or necessary to achieve goals”.
Another person who missed the point. The information provided showed Keto as a potentially better way of dropping weight for those who are obese or have weight related health issues.
I see a lot of posts from people just starting out who need help and I thought this post may be useful. Instead I'm getting slammed for posting my opinion. I will likely not come back to this board because this whole thread has gotten too negative and it seems that many users simply don't like an opinion other than their own.
Nothing wrong with sharing what's working for you. However, you titled the thread in a misleading way, as is your op. Following keto does not automatically mean that someone doesn't have to pay attention to calories or portion sizes. And fat is not highly filling for some people-macros ratios are highly individualized and what ratio has high satiety levels for one person, will be completely different for someone else.
I hang out on another forum and there's a lot of keto/LCHF followers there. Many of them continue to struggle with their weight, many of them for years. It's a bit sad reading through some of their threads, they're so devoted to a lower carb way of eating, but haven't figured out that they still need to be at the correct calorie deficit for their weight loss goals.
eta: OP, I'd spend some time searching through the boards, there's quite a few posts by people who've tried Keto/very low carb and have dropped it. It might be enlightening for you to read some of their experiences with this style of eating.
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WinoGelato wrote: »OP, I've noticed your posts a lot over the last few days. All basically urging people to go keto. Why do you feel the need? If it's working for you, that's great but it seems like you're trying to gain converts 😁
Not only that but I’ve noticed that this poster never engages in discussion with people who wish to discuss/debate the points he or she is attempting to make. Just drops the assertions in a single post and doesn’t seem to return to the thread. I was hopeful that since this is a post and not just a comment that this time may be different because I too am interested to learn why some keto followers feel the need to assign magical benefits to the diet in order to convince others to try - without just posting facts and saying “it can be as good as any other diet if a person enjoys it and can stick with it, but it is not superior and/or necessary to achieve goals”.
Another person who missed the point. The information provided showed Keto as a potentially better way of dropping weight for those who are obese or have weight related health issues.
I see a lot of posts from people just starting out who need help and I thought this post may be useful. Instead I'm getting slammed for posting my opinion. I will likely not come back to this board because this whole thread has gotten too negative and it seems that many users simply don't like an opinion other than their own.
There is some serious irony in the bolded section. The problem is, you just admitted that this was your opinion, yet your original post suggests that it is fact. As others have pointed out, there are some very serious flaws in what you are suggesting. If keto works for you, then great, but the reason it works for you is because you are in a caloric deficit. Many people(including myself) have been successful in achieving a deficit without cutting any specific foods from their diet. I love carbs. They are delicious and fuel my workouts and I don't find it necessary to limit them. I have been in maintenance for over two years and my WOE has been sustainable and enjoyable. Keto would be neither of those things, so your statement that it is the superior WOE is most definitely not true for all people.
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The science/studies prove it. If you read this article in it's entirety you will see that a Keto/low carb high fat diet is the clear winner... perhaps this article alone can help you win the battle against unwanted pounds...
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets
Same offer stills stands: " I'll give you $5 if you can link on out of that list that controls protein so they're equated between diets and tracks fat loss to avoid the keto water loss."6 -
The science/studies prove it. If you read this article in it's entirety you will see that a Keto/low carb high fat diet is the clear winner... perhaps this article alone can help you win the battle against unwanted pounds...
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets
Did I get lost and wind up on a religious forum somehow?15 -
Keto/low carb would not be a clear winner for me - I like carbs and I would never adhere to it for long enough to make any progress.
Success is not defined in lab conditions ( my understanding is that article didnt even claim that, OP just interpreted it as doing so) but in how well something works in real life over real time.
Sure, for some people that real success is in eating keto - but for many more it is not.5 -
So far for me, Keto seems to be working for me. -- I have tried multiple idea, multiple ways, but the difference for me now verses in the past is the Sugar intake. Now that I have removed 95% of the sugar from my diet, I seem to be losing weight quicker then I have before.
On a different note,
I think the reason why people gain the weight back after they hit their goal, is because they didn't learn how to eat. If my TDEE is at 2200 kal and I diet at 1500 kal Aren't I supposed to keep adding 100 calories per week, until I get readjusted to eating normal portion?4 -
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NorthCascades wrote: »The science/studies prove it. If you read this article in it's entirety you will see that a Keto/low carb high fat diet is the clear winner... perhaps this article alone can help you win the battle against unwanted pounds...
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/23-studies-on-low-carb-and-low-fat-diets
Did I get lost and wind up on a religious forum somehow?
3 things to not talk about around the lunch table. Politics, religion and diets.
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WinoGelato wrote: »OP, I've noticed your posts a lot over the last few days. All basically urging people to go keto. Why do you feel the need? If it's working for you, that's great but it seems like you're trying to gain converts 😁
Not only that but I’ve noticed that this poster never engages in discussion with people who wish to discuss/debate the points he or she is attempting to make. Just drops the assertions in a single post and doesn’t seem to return to the thread. I was hopeful that since this is a post and not just a comment that this time may be different because I too am interested to learn why some keto followers feel the need to assign magical benefits to the diet in order to convince others to try - without just posting facts and saying “it can be as good as any other diet if a person enjoys it and can stick with it, but it is not superior and/or necessary to achieve goals”.
I loved the irony of the OP starting a thread in the debate section
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WinoGelato wrote: »OP, I've noticed your posts a lot over the last few days. All basically urging people to go keto. Why do you feel the need? If it's working for you, that's great but it seems like you're trying to gain converts 😁
Not only that but I’ve noticed that this poster never engages in discussion with people who wish to discuss/debate the points he or she is attempting to make. Just drops the assertions in a single post and doesn’t seem to return to the thread. I was hopeful that since this is a post and not just a comment that this time may be different because I too am interested to learn why some keto followers feel the need to assign magical benefits to the diet in order to convince others to try - without just posting facts and saying “it can be as good as any other diet if a person enjoys it and can stick with it, but it is not superior and/or necessary to achieve goals”.
I loved the irony of the OP starting a thread in the debate section
Not only did the OP start a thread in the debate section, he then complained because people were actually debating his ideas... go figure.4 -
Actually the thread was started in the main general forum area and then it got moved here, I'm assuming by a mod?
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Actually the thread was started in the main general forum area and then it got moved here, I'm assuming by a mod?
Yes, because we felt it was more of a debate type topic. Although given people are struggling to be respectful and not turn this into a personal attack, we are closing the discussion.3
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